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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 25, 2022 10:26:29 GMT -5
I thought it was 8000 as was mentioned here: Also has 8000 as an option in the overclocking app, whilst this isn’t possible for the other controllers But I have set it at 8000 and tested the polling rate. It was 1000 with any setting at or faster than 1000. Guess the video and app are BS then, probably some false marketing |
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Post by Blade on Nov 25, 2022 10:51:06 GMT -5
But I have set it at 8000 and tested the polling rate. It was 1000 with any setting at or faster than 1000. Guess the video and app are BS then, probably some false marketing My app did bring it from 250 to 1000, so there was a benefit. |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 25, 2022 11:04:25 GMT -5
Guess the video and app are BS then, probably some false marketing There is a readme file included in the software package that says that USB 3.x is required for all polling rates above 1000. Could be the source of the seeming discrepancy. Makes sense, I’ve got USB 3.0 and have seen 8000 |
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Post by JosiaDB on Nov 25, 2022 11:34:40 GMT -5
I tried the ps5 DS over my xbox PC gamepad and found the opposite of many of your results. I couldn't not be "slow" and it was just not consistent like the one I'm used to. Did I need to tweak it or something? Different controllers have different timing, just recalibrate on the range huh. this statement made me wonder-
If you play wired, no overclock, which is 250mhz, and switch over to BT which defaults to 800 mhz, should you recalibrate?
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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 25, 2022 11:45:53 GMT -5
Different controllers have different timing, just recalibrate on the range huh. this statement made me wonder-
If you play wired, no overclock, which is 250mhz, and switch over to BT which defaults to 800 mhz, should you recalibrate?
So there’s a view you shouldn’t calibrate from a lot of people but I did it straight away so that was out the window unless I reset my whole career. I calibrated with the eSwap and it works fine. Switched to DS and the tempo was slow all the time so I just recalibrated and again it was fine again. Each controller I’ve used had a different tempo, whether this is dictated by stick travel / response rate, who knows but rather than change my natural thumb tempo, I just calibrate whatever controller to work with my tempo |
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Post by JosiaDB on Nov 25, 2022 12:00:35 GMT -5
huh. this statement made me wonder-
If you play wired, no overclock, which is 250mhz, and switch over to BT which defaults to 800 mhz, should you recalibrate?
So there’s a view you shouldn’t calibrate from a lot of people but I did it straight away so that was out the window unless I reset my whole career. I calibrated with the eSwap and it works fine. Switched to DS and the tempo was slow all the time so I just recalibrated and again it was fine again. Each controller I’ve used had a different tempo, whether this is dictated by stick travel / response rate, who knows but rather than change my natural thumb tempo, I just calibrate whatever controller to work with my tempo
Right- but what I was getting at is should one recalibrate when using the same controller, but switching the mhz, since wired and Bluetooth are two different mhz's on the DS?
Like, is the tempo tied more to the controller mechanisms, or is it tied to the mhz's enough that it would change between 250 and 800/1000?
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Post by Blade on Nov 25, 2022 12:51:18 GMT -5
So there’s a view you shouldn’t calibrate from a lot of people but I did it straight away so that was out the window unless I reset my whole career. I calibrated with the eSwap and it works fine. Switched to DS and the tempo was slow all the time so I just recalibrated and again it was fine again. Each controller I’ve used had a different tempo, whether this is dictated by stick travel / response rate, who knows but rather than change my natural thumb tempo, I just calibrate whatever controller to work with my tempo
Right- but what I was getting at is should one recalibrate when using the same controller, but switching the mhz, since wired and Bluetooth are two different mhz's on the DS?
Like, is the tempo tied more to the controller mechanisms, or is it tied to the mhz's enough that it would change between 250 and 800/1000?
They don't have to be that different. With my PC my wired controller is 1000 Hz and my BT is 800 Hz. The BT has a bit more lag, but not dramatic. You have to overclock your controller with this Controller Overclock Program which has many YouTube videos extolling its virtues. You do it once and it stays overclocked (on your PC). You do not have to run the program in the background. Periodically you need to check it, as Windows Updates have been known to reset your polling rate to default. |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 25, 2022 12:56:21 GMT -5
So there’s a view you shouldn’t calibrate from a lot of people but I did it straight away so that was out the window unless I reset my whole career. I calibrated with the eSwap and it works fine. Switched to DS and the tempo was slow all the time so I just recalibrated and again it was fine again. Each controller I’ve used had a different tempo, whether this is dictated by stick travel / response rate, who knows but rather than change my natural thumb tempo, I just calibrate whatever controller to work with my tempo
Right- but what I was getting at is should one recalibrate when using the same controller, but switching the mhz, since wired and Bluetooth are two different mhz's on the DS?
Like, is the tempo tied more to the controller mechanisms, or is it tied to the mhz's enough that it would change between 250 and 800/1000?
I do yes. Also have recalibrated when trying right thumb instead of left thumb |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 25, 2022 13:00:23 GMT -5
So there’s a view you shouldn’t calibrate from a lot of people but I did it straight away so that was out the window unless I reset my whole career. I calibrated with the eSwap and it works fine. Switched to DS and the tempo was slow all the time so I just recalibrated and again it was fine again. Each controller I’ve used had a different tempo, whether this is dictated by stick travel / response rate, who knows but rather than change my natural thumb tempo, I just calibrate whatever controller to work with my tempo
Right- but what I was getting at is should one recalibrate when using the same controller, but switching the mhz, since wired and Bluetooth are two different mhz's on the DS?
Like, is the tempo tied more to the controller mechanisms, or is it tied to the mhz's enough that it would change between 250 and 800/1000?
I tested all the options between 250 and 1000 (eSwap max is actually around 980) and I found that 980 was optimal for that controller. For DS I found that default was actually really good (250) and that I got a loss less perfects at 8000. In the end I didn’t see any benefit of the DS over the eSwap and I prefer the familiar stick position of the eSwap and the excellent weight and buttons (I’ve big hands) much more comfortable so settled on that. It’s well worth experimenting with different poll rates and calibrations and then settling on a setup and just going with it from there |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 25, 2022 18:31:06 GMT -5
In the end I didn’t see any benefit of the DS over the eSwap and I prefer the familiar stick position of the eSwap and the excellent weight and buttons (I’ve big hands) much more comfortable so settled on that. I agree, I couldn't handle the DS left stick & Dpad being opposite. The DS at 1000Hz did work very well however, much better than the Elite 2. I certainly am grateful to you paddyjk19 and I will be staying with the eSwap. It’s a great pad, not cheap but the quality is superb! Also has normal tempo which is a welcome relief after the Elite 2, such a shame as the Elite is a great feeling pad, just not great for these games! |
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Post by lessangster on Nov 26, 2022 7:36:51 GMT -5
I agree, I couldn't handle the DS left stick & Dpad being opposite. The DS at 1000Hz did work very well however, much better than the Elite 2. I certainly am grateful to you paddyjk19 and I will be staying with the eSwap. It’s a great pad, not cheap but the quality is superb! Also has normal tempo which is a welcome relief after the Elite 2, such a shame as the Elite is a great feeling pad, just not great for these games! I sent my eSwap back as the rubber tops on the sticks felt so hard and slippy ooh err 😂 I do love the feel of the Elite the sticks are so smooth in use but tempo is also very variable. I set the tension in the middle because on the lightest tension I get to many black fasts, set to heavy I get black slows. I’ve got to a point now where if I hammer the stick forwards I get a fair few perfects with the driver but it’s the irons I have the most trouble with lots of grey slows almost into the black and they take lots of distance off your shot. |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 26, 2022 8:18:12 GMT -5
It’s a great pad, not cheap but the quality is superb! Also has normal tempo which is a welcome relief after the Elite 2, such a shame as the Elite is a great feeling pad, just not great for these games! I sent my eSwap back as the rubber tops on the sticks felt so hard and slippy ooh err 😂 I do love the feel of the Elite the sticks are so smooth in use but tempo is also very variable. I set the tension in the middle because on the lightest tension I get to many black fasts, set to heavy I get black slows. I’ve got to a point now where if I hammer the stick forwards I get a fair few perfects with the driver but it’s the irons I have the most trouble with lots of grey slows almost into the black and they take lots of distance off your shot. The problem is no matter what you do to the elite you’ll always get the odd random black fast or slow, it’s effectively like playing on Xbox because of the polling points, the trade off is you don’t get that with eSwap etc but the sticks don’t feel as nice and harder to swing straight. For me it’s worth it as better tempo is more important to me than swing path, I find a tempo miss is 50 yards off target whilst a swing path miss is 10 yards. You could also look at the Razr (or might be Razer) controllers, they’re supposed to be good too but no idea on their polling rates but seeing as it’s a PS / PC configuration I’d expect it to be better than Xbox controllers |
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Post by lessangster on Nov 26, 2022 8:30:47 GMT -5
I sent my eSwap back as the rubber tops on the sticks felt so hard and slippy ooh err 😂 I do love the feel of the Elite the sticks are so smooth in use but tempo is also very variable. I set the tension in the middle because on the lightest tension I get to many black fasts, set to heavy I get black slows. I’ve got to a point now where if I hammer the stick forwards I get a fair few perfects with the driver but it’s the irons I have the most trouble with lots of grey slows almost into the black and they take lots of distance off your shot. The problem is no matter what you do to the elite you’ll always get the odd random black fast or slow, it’s effectively like playing on Xbox because of the polling points, the trade off is you don’t get that with eSwap etc but the sticks don’t feel as nice and harder to swing straight. For me it’s worth it as better tempo is more important to me than swing path, I find a tempo miss is 50 yards off target whilst a swing path miss is 10 yards. You could also look at the Razr (or might be Razer) controllers, they’re supposed to be good too but no idea on their polling rates but seeing as it’s a PS / PC configuration I’d expect it to be better than Xbox controllers I think some of the problems with the Xbox wireless controller is with the odd miscommunication between the controller and the Xbox. If I get a black fast which I do every now and again I will turn the controller of then back on again usually sorts it for a good few rounds. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 8:33:24 GMT -5
I am considering a PS5 controller purely because I am desperate for anything to help me. I currently use an Xbox One controller which I am very comfortable with.
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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 26, 2022 8:42:02 GMT -5
The problem is no matter what you do to the elite you’ll always get the odd random black fast or slow, it’s effectively like playing on Xbox because of the polling points, the trade off is you don’t get that with eSwap etc but the sticks don’t feel as nice and harder to swing straight. For me it’s worth it as better tempo is more important to me than swing path, I find a tempo miss is 50 yards off target whilst a swing path miss is 10 yards. You could also look at the Razr (or might be Razer) controllers, they’re supposed to be good too but no idea on their polling rates but seeing as it’s a PS / PC configuration I’d expect it to be better than Xbox controllers I think some of the problems with the Xbox wireless controller is with the odd miscommunication between the controller and the Xbox. If I get a black fast which I do every now and again I will turn the controller of then back on again usually sorts it for a good few rounds. I used to use it with a wired USB C but still had the same problems, only really noticed how bad it was when I’d tried re eSwap and the DualSense, I just couldn’t go back now, it costs me 3 shots a round using the Elite 2 |
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