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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 11, 2022 9:11:52 GMT -5
Interesting. I am on PC using an Xbox elite controller. I've always had a lot of timing and tempo issues that I couldn't figure out why everyone else is better, no matter what I try to practice or do.
Being that we don't have a lot, the elite controller (special edition ocean version) was a gift and I really like it. In fact, it was a gift specifically because my other older controller I had at that time would not pass the test for this website. So I've always been happy with using it, and am reluctant to go spend anything to replace it.
Wonder if its time to ask for a PS DS5 this Christmas., LOL.
Another thing I didn't think to try before switching controllers is the analog stick adjustments on the Elite Controller. I never thought of that till now but I had the analog sticks tightened down with that goofy-looking tool that comes with the elite controllers. Maybe loosening the analog sticks all the way would have also helped, but probably not, it may be worth a try messing around with that if you don't want to buy something else. It's the polling rate of the controllers that's the issue. No amount of stick fiddling will fix it unfortunately... |
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Post by Giraffe72 on Nov 11, 2022 9:33:02 GMT -5
Q school completed. Xbox platform. Rhythm archetype. Fittings all on (last three rounds). No magic ball used. R1: -2 R2: -1 R3: -2 R4: -5 Total: -10 Obviously nothing to write home about but I was significantly under par, without use of a magic ball and that felt rewarding. I loved every second of it as well as the challenge and official feel that TGC Tours has always provided. Swing felt correct. For the most part, I didn't feel much randomness, save for probably three or four swings per round. Shot feedback turned OFF as every swing on Xbox is a coin flip so best I not see the crazy every time! Putting as well as pitching/chipping is quite unrealistic and manufactured difficulty without a magic ball and I'll absolutely be using them when placed in CC (won't even make cuts otherwise). Laughed at the hundreds and hundreds of people at 100% medium putts and 40+% on long putts, then I remembered why. It's arcade all the way. Not TGCT fault for working with what has been handed to them. TGC Tours is and will always be a great place to play. Well played Money. We may be in the same tour. I'll be sticking with the default ball. Don't forget a long putt is 11 feet and further. You give me that as birdie putt in real golf and I'd consider it a short putt. Yes exactly. I've always thought they are stupid measurements. In this game: Short putt up to 5 feet Medium putt 5-10 feet (lol!) Long putt anything over 10 feet?! The sort of stats moneyman273 is talking about I was getting in last game on a good week. No doubt there's arcadey aspects to the set up of this game that none of us particularly like, most notably the ball skins, but it still doesn't play arcadey. Spin control in mid air, THAT'S arcadey. |
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Post by Blade on Nov 11, 2022 9:42:57 GMT -5
So, I read everyone complaining about how much more difficult Xbox is and I can tell you it's absolutely true, at least in my experience with the Xbox controller. I have been really struggling in this game compared to the last games and a few months ago I switched to an Xbox Elite controller and that's what I started playing this game with. Well, last night I decided to switch back to my Dualshock 4 controller that I used in the previous games and it's waaaaaaaaaaay easier. I can actually get decent timing versus with the elite controller it was a mess. I'm on PC.
Interesting. I am on PC using an Xbox elite controller. I've always had a lot of timing and tempo issues that I couldn't figure out why everyone else is better, no matter what I try to practice or do.
Being that we don't have a lot, the elite controller (special edition ocean version) was a gift and I really like it. In fact, it was a gift specifically because my other older controller I had at that time would not pass the test for this website. So I've always been happy with using it, and am reluctant to go spend anything to replace it.
Wonder if its time to ask for a PS DS5 this Christmas., LOL.
I just replaced my Xbox controller with a PS DS5. Definitely makes a difference. Gone are the "There is no way that was a severe fast/slow." I make more at or near perfects and unless I felt "I screwed that up", all my tempo is now inside the grey. If you get one, I recommend you overclock it. Very easy to do and changes the refresh from 250 Hz to 1000 Hz (wired). When I am on Bluetooth it is about 800 Hz, so I have been playing wired. Probably doesn't make a huge difference, but the cord is no hassle, so why not.
Full disclosure, at the same time I also turned on V-Sync to match my monitor refresh rate after I saw a video showing a change in how the tempo arc acts. I notice no difference on my visuals, so I have left it.
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Post by yankeesjunkie on Nov 11, 2022 9:57:36 GMT -5
So what level is everyone at? I am at 26 right now.
Also for those at 50, did you max out all of the end game skill points?
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Post by sroel908 on Nov 11, 2022 10:04:20 GMT -5
So what level is everyone at? I am at 26 right now. Also for those at 50, did you max out all of the end game skill points? I'm at like Level 48 or 49. I have used all but one skill point right now. Waiting for a couple more to max out the final passive putting skill. However, I will then likely reset my skills after I am maxed out. I wasn't really all that strategic with my choices as I went, and am noticing that the skills are kind of messing up my club distance gaps when they're activated. |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Nov 11, 2022 10:52:57 GMT -5
So what level is everyone at? I am at 26 right now. Also for those at 50, did you max out all of the end game skill points? I've been at 50 for a while but have used no skills points, just fittings. I'm crap tho, so that's something to consider. |
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Post by hawk3y3 on Nov 11, 2022 11:21:11 GMT -5
Another thing I didn't think to try before switching controllers is the analog stick adjustments on the Elite Controller. I never thought of that till now but I had the analog sticks tightened down with that goofy-looking tool that comes with the elite controllers. Maybe loosening the analog sticks all the way would have also helped, but probably not, it may be worth a try messing around with that if you don't want to buy something else. It's the polling rate of the controllers that's the issue. No amount of stick fiddling will fix it unfortunately... I have an Xbox One... is there any alternative to using an Xbox controller (either base or Elite) on an Xbox, with TGC Tours? I've heard that some people have tried some 3rd Party controllers and they weren't allowed. Are there some alternative controllers that are allowed, and will perform better than the Xbox controllers with PGA 2k23? |
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 11, 2022 11:30:53 GMT -5
It's the polling rate of the controllers that's the issue. No amount of stick fiddling will fix it unfortunately... I have an Xbox One... is there any alternative to using an Xbox controller (either base or Elite) on an Xbox, with TGC Tours? I've heard that some people have tried some 3rd Party controllers and they weren't allowed. Are there some alternative controllers that are allowed, and will perform better than the Xbox controllers with PGA 2k23? I (and TGCT Admin I believe) would strongly advise against 3rd party controllers - so, so many issues with them and you're not guaranteed to have them perform better for tempo than a standard XB controller. Whether it's XB, or Elite... or any other Microsoft endorsed controller, they all have the 125mhz poll rate. This is accompanied by a greater inconsistency across the response range than a PS controller, meaning that the slowest vs fastest communicated inputs can occur over a wider range than on PS, so sometimes, rarely, you'll get a spiked, longer delay - this leads to the "WHAT?" moments re tempo. Being discussed over here: tgctours.proboards.com/thread/32298/best-controller-2k23 |
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Post by sanchez on Nov 11, 2022 11:53:57 GMT -5
I wasn't going to play this as i have been struggling to break par..(xbox by the way). Then thought why not give it a go.. First rd -1 up and down birdies bogies. 2nd rd +2.1 double bogey & 17 pars. Missed a few easy birds but holed some twisty breaking ones for par so about right overall. 2 to go tomorrow.
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Post by Bogey Bonocore on Nov 11, 2022 12:28:33 GMT -5
Interesting. I am on PC using an Xbox elite controller. I've always had a lot of timing and tempo issues that I couldn't figure out why everyone else is better, no matter what I try to practice or do.
Being that we don't have a lot, the elite controller (special edition ocean version) was a gift and I really like it. In fact, it was a gift specifically because my other older controller I had at that time would not pass the test for this website. So I've always been happy with using it, and am reluctant to go spend anything to replace it.
Wonder if its time to ask for a PS DS5 this Christmas., LOL.
- Dualshock and Dualsense all have much higher polling frequency than XB controllers. 800mhz wireless and 250mhz wired. XB are 250mhz, but for some battery saving reason, they then only poll at half that so 125hmz. It's the reason Xbox has bigger tempo gaps and can hit less polling points, and why HB / 2k have such a hard time trying to accommodate for it. If you use those controllers on PC - same issue as XB. HOWEVER: Don't expect a magic wand... This game things are different re how easy it is to attain perfect tempo on XB (and one assumes PC). PS has it's own advantages re swing granularity timing... It's less of a gap than the last game it seems is all I'll hang my hat on for mow. So I am not a hardcore gamer, so I don't know much about the technical aspects of the controller polling frequency, but I am on an XBox Series X. Is there a difference in the XBox from wired to wireless? I am assuming wired would be better? I played the Q wired, but want to make sure that's the right approach going forward! |
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Post by sanddancerpedro on Nov 11, 2022 12:30:12 GMT -5
Safely back in the clubhouse having a beer or two after completing round 4 on -20. (-5, -8, -4, -3). More than happy with that.
Was a pretty average 2k21 Xbox player in CCE, then F then G (spot the trend!). I’ve definitely found it slightly easier tempo and swing path wise in this game. I have purposely gone for rhythm archetype and skills etc as I was so erratic in the last game.
Good course with a lot of strategy, had to think a lot about avoiding the danger areas and the slopes. Managed to avoid any meltdowns though did get lucky on some recoveries.
Good luck to those still out on the course!
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Post by weirsy2003 on Nov 11, 2022 12:50:08 GMT -5
Rounds of -5, -4, -2 and then put everything together with a final round -11. 22 under should put me in CC-A which I’m pretty happy with after splitting last season between Kinetic and CC-A. I’ve decided just to use the default ball for now until I’ve maxed out on my skills and fittings and then I’ll see how high I can go. Like many people here I’m not a fan of the magical golf balls in principle but if everyone is going to use them eventually it’s still a level playing field.
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Post by Bogey Bonocore on Nov 11, 2022 12:55:02 GMT -5
I am also safely back in the clubhouse, although I needed a full six-pack of Coors Light to decompress from that stress-filled four rounds.
Having not played a golf video game in over a decade, I am pretty happy with my mediocre finish. Despite the high-speed roller coaster of emotions ranging from stress and disbelief to fist pumping excitement when I landed a good recovery shot (there was A LOT of scrambling) or a 15-foot putt to save par, I wound up remaining pretty consistent through the four rounds.
R1: +5
R2: +3
R3: +5
R4: +2
Total: +15
As I said, I was scrambling. Only hit 67% of fairways off of the tees, and worse, only 43% GIR. I had 6 meltdown holes (5 doubles and 1 triple), but made up for it with 14 clutch birdies that had my heart racing when the ball (barely) went to its home. All in all, I am satisfied I didn't completely buckle under the pressure, like I often do IRL competitive golf, so +15 and a good shot at a CC tour card feels like a win in my book!
Looking back, I really loved KEG Farm, as frustrating as it was at times. It's a beautifully designed course with great attention to detail on managing risk vs. reward. But even so, I don't see myself making a return trip to the farm anytime soon!
Currently sitting at 1725 on the leaderboard, but based off Doyley's comments in the Discord this morning, I feel semi-confident that it will land me on the tour, albeit, in a lower CC flight. That's fine by me, as I would rather be clawing my way up than plummeting down to another qualifier round. Can't wait to (hopefully) get started on my rounds for the Blue Moon Championship at Elstead Heath! See you all on the leaderboard!
Thanks again to Doyley, Tim, and all the volunteers at TGCT who make this happen! This week was 'almost' as fun, and definitely as stressful, as IRL golf!
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Post by beef on Nov 11, 2022 13:21:35 GMT -5
10 Euros in the Top 16. Ryder Cup will be a walkover for the good guys this year.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 11, 2022 17:08:14 GMT -5
bergs JosiaDB - Dualshock and Dualsense all have much higher polling frequency than XB controllers. 800mhz wireless and 250mhz wired. XB are 250mhz, but for some battery saving reason, they then only poll at half that so 125hmz. It's the reason Xbox has bigger tempo gaps and can hit less polling points, and why HB / 2k have such a hard time trying to accommodate for it. If you use those controllers on PC - same issue as XB. HOWEVER: Don't expect a magic wand... This game things are different re how easy it is to attain perfect tempo on XB (and one assumes PC). PS has it's own advantages re swing granularity timing... It's less of a gap than the last game it seems is all I'll hang my hat on for mow. So I am not a hardcore gamer, so I don't know much about the technical aspects of the controller polling frequency, but I am on an XBox Series X. Is there a difference in the XBox from wired to wireless? I am assuming wired would be better? I played the Q wired, but want to make sure that's the right approach going forward! I'm not an expert on XB, but as far as I can see, it's 125hz wired or wireless. IF the control does actually bypass bluetooth when plugged in, then that might be a more reliable signal if you play near a lot of interference, but that's it. |
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