jjbuzzotta
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 254
TGCT Name: Justin Buzzotta
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Post by jjbuzzotta on Nov 2, 2022 16:41:20 GMT -5
Nah, I'm not having that. Can't see that being an accurate statement. Would they be advantageous? Most certainly, but will they be required to compete at any level - no. Not in my opinion. Depends entirely on the course and setup. Based on courses so far I've played across the game they'll absolutely be an advantage of the course is tricky and greens are fast. It'll rest on how the design community responds to the mechanics I guess. I don't have a massive problem with it though. Once you get your fittings sorted balls seem to get very affordable without spending real money. Yea it is what it is. At least they're cheap. But to say that the default ball is able to compete at the top tours is disingenous at this point in my opinion. |
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Nov 2, 2022 16:42:37 GMT -5
Nah, I'm not having that. Can't see that being an accurate statement. Would they be advantageous? Most certainly, but will they be required to compete at any level - no. Not in my opinion. The 15th hole on the plat tour exhibition event this week in the second round was not playable with the default ball. It just wasn't. Unless you holed it completely you literally couldn't lag the ball near the pin. I should know. I had 6 balls go into the water on the hole so I had six tries to lag it up there and it literally didn't bite once. It's beyond advantage. At least for the top tours. Agreed. If those are the sorts of set-ups on that tour they would be a necessity nevermind an advantage imo. |
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Post by ColeStyle on Nov 2, 2022 16:43:33 GMT -5
Nah, I'm not having that. Can't see that being an accurate statement. Would they be advantageous? Most certainly, but will they be required to compete at any level - no. Not in my opinion. The 15th hole on the plat tour exhibition event this week in the second round was not playable with the default ball. It just wasn't. Unless you holed it completely you literally couldn't lag the ball near the pin. I should know. I had 6 balls go into the water on the hole so I had six tries to lag it up there and it literally didn't bite once. It's beyond advantage. At least for the top tours. That was the hole and round I rage quit lol. 3rd round I hit a beautiful wood about 10 ft from the pin and it rolled back down into the water. I was thinking eagle opportunity when it landed. Ended up triple bogeying. Wtf? |
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Post by sroel908 on Nov 2, 2022 16:44:30 GMT -5
I have not used a single magic bean ball. I think the concept could of been okay to a point (more flight, less spin, roll, ect) but the ball changing the course I am not on board with. Question: I assume rangering approvals are done on default balls. Are we to assume that whomever comes up with the playing conditions of each event is also doing so as if everyone is playing a default ball? When rangering, we can use any golf ball or settings we wish. Green slopes are being judged by the old 9-box rule, where there can be no yellow, orange, or red color within the 9 boxes of the grid surrounding the cup (with some common sense used in certain situations, of course). I will admit, it's hard to know the difficulty of courses now in 2K23, since the conditions will vary greatly depending on which golf balls people are using. But at this stage, we're basically ensuring courses have no lag, have playable pins for the flight the course is set for, and let everything else fall where it may, in terms of difficulty and consumable golf balls changing the course, knowing that things could potentially change down the line as well. |
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Post by ColeStyle on Nov 2, 2022 16:50:11 GMT -5
I have not used a single magic bean ball. I think the concept could of been okay to a point (more flight, less spin, roll, ect) but the ball changing the course I am not on board with. Question: I assume rangering approvals are done on default balls. Are we to assume that whomever comes up with the playing conditions of each event is also doing so as if everyone is playing a default ball? When rangering, we can use any golf ball or settings we wish. Green slopes are being judged by the old 9-box rule, where there can be no yellow, orange, or red color within the 9 boxes of the grid surrounding the cup (with some common sense used in certain situations, of course). I will admit, it's hard to know the difficulty of courses now in 2K23, since the conditions will vary greatly depending on which golf balls people are using. But at this stage, we're basically ensuring courses have no lag, have playable pins for the flight they course is set for, and let everything else fall where it may, in terms of difficulty and consumable golf balls changing the course. you may want to expand that 9 rule because there were several greens you couldn’t even keep the ball on the green unless you landed it within 1 particular grid it seemed like. I think I’m in 10th place after finishing all 4 rounds and finished 43+ wtf? Lol. I definitely won’t end up anywhere near that as others finish but there are 12 people finished on Xbox and only 3-5 people that scored under. |
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Post by sroel908 on Nov 2, 2022 16:54:08 GMT -5
When rangering, we can use any golf ball or settings we wish. Green slopes are being judged by the old 9-box rule, where there can be no yellow, orange, or red color within the 9 boxes of the grid surrounding the cup (with some common sense used in certain situations, of course). I will admit, it's hard to know the difficulty of courses now in 2K23, since the conditions will vary greatly depending on which golf balls people are using. But at this stage, we're basically ensuring courses have no lag, have playable pins for the flight they course is set for, and let everything else fall where it may, in terms of difficulty and consumable golf balls changing the course. you may want to expand that 9 rule because there were several greens you couldn’t even keep the ball on the green unless you landed it within 1 particular grid it seemed like. I don't think the courses for the exhibition events were rangered, at least not in the same way that the normal events are. I don't recall Grovetown American being added to our queue for playing, so I'd say to just keep that in mind. |
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Post by SteelVike on Nov 2, 2022 16:57:28 GMT -5
When rangering, we can use any golf ball or settings we wish. Green slopes are being judged by the old 9-box rule, where there can be no yellow, orange, or red color within the 9 boxes of the grid surrounding the cup (with some common sense used in certain situations, of course). I will admit, it's hard to know the difficulty of courses now in 2K23, since the conditions will vary greatly depending on which golf balls people are using. But at this stage, we're basically ensuring courses have no lag, have playable pins for the flight they course is set for, and let everything else fall where it may, in terms of difficulty and consumable golf balls changing the course. you may want to expand that 9 rule because there were several greens you couldn’t even keep the ball on the green unless you landed it within 1 particular grid it seemed like. I'm certain Doyley was testing the deepest of waters by scheduling that particular course with those conditions. After all, they are called test events for a reason and I'm sure he knew what he was doing when he did it, grinning the whole time. I wouldn't base anything from what we saw during the test events, especially Grovetown. |
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Post by SteelVike on Nov 2, 2022 16:58:59 GMT -5
you may want to expand that 9 rule because there were several greens you couldn’t even keep the ball on the green unless you landed it within 1 particular grid it seemed like. I don't think the courses for the exhibition events were rangered, at least not in the same way that the normal events are. I don't recall Grovetown American being added to our queue for playing, so I'd say to just keep that in mind. Test events were all Doyley from what I understand, I could be wrong tho. |
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Post by ColeStyle on Nov 2, 2022 17:04:13 GMT -5
Only 6 Xbox players in the top 50 after 3 rounds. Lol
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Post by Doyley on Nov 2, 2022 17:53:59 GMT -5
I don't think the courses for the exhibition events were rangered, at least not in the same way that the normal events are. I don't recall Grovetown American being added to our queue for playing, so I'd say to just keep that in mind. Test events were all Doyley from what I understand, I could be wrong tho. Yep, they were all done by me sight unseen. The real courses come once our schedulers take over. You'll be glad when I'm hands off! Should note I knew Grovetown well from 2K21 and had planned on giving it to Platinum on the Legend swing as a fun way to end the exhibition season. Then we put out the settings so I changed it to master. Then we got the API up and running so I chose it for the scores because why not - it would make for some fun viewing. It's in no way indicative of what you should expect on our tours once we get going - unless you land on Platinum then I'm sure that course would be easily handled with a correct combo of clubs and ball - something I'd expect Platinum players to be able to figure out.
It is a good test of patience though for the rest of us!
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Post by rhino4life on Nov 2, 2022 18:04:58 GMT -5
My question about the course setup /balls was regarding the season events, starting with Q school, not test events.
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Post by Doyley on Nov 2, 2022 18:14:53 GMT -5
My question about the course setup /balls was regarding the season events, starting with Q school, not test events. That's pretty much the case - we don't expect our rangers to buy balls to ranger. They'll do it on the default ball knowing the majority of people will likely choose a ball that will be better than default - but all courses should play well on default ball. |
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Post by hmammoth on Nov 2, 2022 18:24:40 GMT -5
My question about the course setup /balls was regarding the season events, starting with Q school, not test events. For kinetic, all settings are being done with default ball and no club fittings, the main reason for this, is for me to try make sure it plays fair for as many people as possible no matter their club and ball setups, I am sure I will make mistakes along the way, like everyone else, I am learning along the way, and it’s going to take a good few weeks to figure out the best level difficulty for players on kinetic. |
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Post by OldManGaming606 on Nov 2, 2022 18:48:29 GMT -5
Is there a Weather Report for the Qualifier? Doyley |
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Post by rhino4life on Nov 2, 2022 19:01:22 GMT -5
My question about the course setup /balls was regarding the season events, starting with Q school, not test events. For kinetic, all settings are being done with default ball and no club fittings, the main reason for this, is for me to try make sure it plays fair for as many people as possible no matter their club and ball setups, I am sure I will make mistakes along the way, like everyone else, I am learning along the way, and it’s going to take a good few weeks to figure out the best level difficulty for players on kinetic. Legendary scheduler.... |
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