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Post by ColeStyle on Nov 2, 2022 12:35:15 GMT -5
Platinum test event they’re running I mean, ok, if you have played that with default ball and find it hard - I get it (I also find legend a bit too much for my patience nowadays) - but, I assume therefore that you think you'll qualify in the top 70 in the game (to get on Platinum Tour)? If however, you think you'll be outside the top 70, you'll likely find conditions less difficult. What tour did you play on previously? Platinum is master difficulty, no? I was Kinetic in 2k21.
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Post by jjbuzzotta on Nov 2, 2022 13:11:00 GMT -5
I mean, ok, if you have played that with default ball and find it hard - I get it (I also find legend a bit too much for my patience nowadays) - but, I assume therefore that you think you'll qualify in the top 70 in the game (to get on Platinum Tour)? If however, you think you'll be outside the top 70, you'll likely find conditions less difficult. What tour did you play on previously? Platinum is master difficulty, no? I was Kinetic in 2k21. I had a similar rage to you when I played last night. Truth is to compete on the top tours (or probably really any of the tours) you will NEED to use a legendary ball. Plat tour event this week was unplayable with the default ball. As maddening as it is, it's the unfortunate reality of TGCT until they can limit the balls used.
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Post by ColeStyle on Nov 2, 2022 13:47:43 GMT -5
Platinum is master difficulty, no? I was Kinetic in 2k21. I had a similar rage to you when I played last night. Truth is to compete on the top tours (or probably really any of the tours) you will NEED to use a legendary ball. Plat tour event this week was unplayable with the default ball. As maddening as it is, it's the unfortunate reality of TGCT until they can limit the balls used. I remember buying a ball with more spin a while back but I think you have to continue reloading them, correct? If that’s the case I think I’ve been using default ball for a while now without much problems because I never reloaded that particular ball. I think the course and conditions were just ridiculous. I was +3 midway through my second round and then ended up with a quad bogey after landing the ball on the green several times only to watch it roll back down a slope into the water. Then Double bogeyed the next hole and said @!$# this.
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Post by jeseterr on Nov 2, 2022 13:54:06 GMT -5
I had a similar rage to you when I played last night. Truth is to compete on the top tours (or probably really any of the tours) you will NEED to use a legendary ball. Plat tour event this week was unplayable with the default ball. As maddening as it is, it's the unfortunate reality of TGCT until they can limit the balls used. I remember buying a ball with more spin a while back but I think you have to continue reloading them, correct? If that’s the case I think I’ve been using default ball for a while now without much problems because I never reloaded that particular ball. I think the course and conditions were just ridiculous. I was +3 midway through my second round and then ended up with a quad bogey after landing the ball on the green several times only to watch it roll back down a slope into the water. Then Double bogeyed the next hole and said @!$# this. It is like IRL. Some days conditions are very tough. I played 1 round +23 🤣🤣
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Post by ColeStyle on Nov 2, 2022 16:05:38 GMT -5
I remember buying a ball with more spin a while back but I think you have to continue reloading them, correct? If that’s the case I think I’ve been using default ball for a while now without much problems because I never reloaded that particular ball. I think the course and conditions were just ridiculous. I was +3 midway through my second round and then ended up with a quad bogey after landing the ball on the green several times only to watch it roll back down a slope into the water. Then Double bogeyed the next hole and said @!$# this. It is like IRL. Some days conditions are very tough. I played 1 round +23 🤣🤣 finished +43 I believe and Im literally questioning whether or not I want to play 2k23 anymore.
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Post by rhino4life on Nov 2, 2022 16:19:24 GMT -5
I have not used a single magic bean ball. I think the concept could of been okay to a point (more flight, less spin, roll, ect) but the ball changing the course I am not on board with.
Question: I assume rangering approvals are done on default balls. Are we to assume that whomever comes up with the playing conditions of each event is also doing so as if everyone is playing a default ball?
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Post by trentmcneely on Nov 2, 2022 16:22:12 GMT -5
Limiting plat to that field size is essentially going to kick out xbox anyway. Why not just put it on legend? Why would it do that? As far as I can tell and from user feedback reported, Xbox plays well on master this time around... which is one of the main reasons for going to master site wide. I mean I'm just assuming but I feel like it makes sense. 2k23 plays well on master vs 2k21, but I haven't seen anything that says it plays easier than 2k21 on pro. On pro last season there was only 1 xbox player in the top 100wgr and they made around half the cuts. With plat now playing a total field size around cut line last season and not clearing demos by making cuts...you can see my logic there, right? I could be wrong but it just seems very unlikely that xbox is going to be able to get to plat and compete, and the majority of players who are likely to be on plat would prefer the toughest challenge of legend. I only asked because I saw Doyley first announce plat on master for xbox players, but then saw after the smaller plat size announcement. Just seems like those two contradict each other. But who knows, it is a "new" game after all.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 2, 2022 16:24:54 GMT -5
I mean, ok, if you have played that with default ball and find it hard - I get it (I also find legend a bit too much for my patience nowadays) - but, I assume therefore that you think you'll qualify in the top 70 in the game (to get on Platinum Tour)? If however, you think you'll be outside the top 70, you'll likely find conditions less difficult. What tour did you play on previously? Platinum is master difficulty, no? I was Kinetic in 2k21. Platinum for the season will be master, but all test events to date have been legend so far (as far as I can see...) My point being, if you found the conditions hard on the platinum event, conditions for any other flight are likely be less painful... So, if you're sure you'd qualify in the top 70, prepare for the pain, otherwise, have a go, see where you end up and how crazy you find the conditions at your level.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 2, 2022 16:27:10 GMT -5
Platinum is master difficulty, no? I was Kinetic in 2k21. I had a similar rage to you when I played last night. Truth is to compete on the top tours (or probably really any of the tours) you will NEED to use a legendary ball. Nah, I'm not having that. Can't see that being an accurate statement. Would they be advantageous? Most certainly, but will they be required to compete at any level - no. Not in my opinion.
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Post by ColeStyle on Nov 2, 2022 16:31:02 GMT -5
Platinum is master difficulty, no? I was Kinetic in 2k21. Platinum for the season will be master, but all test events to date have been legend so far (as far as I can see...) My point being, if you found the conditions hard on the platinum event, conditions for any other flight are likely be less painful... So, if you're sure you'd qualify in the top 70, prepare for the pain, otherwise, have a go, see where you end up and how crazy you find the conditions at your level. No F ing way I’ll be top 70.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 2, 2022 16:31:23 GMT -5
Why would it do that? As far as I can tell and from user feedback reported, Xbox plays well on master this time around... which is one of the main reasons for going to master site wide. I mean I'm just assuming but I feel like it makes sense. 2k23 plays well on master vs 2k21, but I haven't seen anything that says it plays easier than 2k21 on pro. On pro last season there was only 1 xbox player in the top 100wgr and they made around half the cuts. With plat now playing a total field size around cut line last season and not clearing demos by making cuts...you can see my logic there, right? I could be wrong but it just seems very unlikely that xbox is going to be able to get to plat and compete, and the majority of players who are likely to be on plat would prefer the toughest challenge of legend. I only asked because I saw Doyley first announce plat on master for xbox players, but then saw after the smaller plat size announcement. Just seems like those two contradict each other. But who knows, it is a "new" game after all. It's never going to be something that can be truly measured, but indicatively, as you say, if there are few XB players in the top tier... it would suggest XB are still at a disadvantage. Reality is however, that PS (4 or 5) has been platform of choice (greatest numbers) and level with PC (performance) for some time, so a lot of would be top XB players have migrated over the years. I'm with you - keeping an eye on how it pans out. I really hope XB is more competitive this time.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 2, 2022 16:33:36 GMT -5
Platinum for the season will be master, but all test events to date have been legend so far (as far as I can see...) My point being, if you found the conditions hard on the platinum event, conditions for any other flight are likely be less painful... So, if you're sure you'd qualify in the top 70, prepare for the pain, otherwise, have a go, see where you end up and how crazy you find the conditions at your level. No F ing way I’ll be top 70. No offence then, but don't wet the bed about putting in a below par performance and not enjoying the very hardest event available - play some Kinetic or CC tracks and se how you fare / how much you enjoy those.
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Nov 2, 2022 16:36:01 GMT -5
Why would it do that? As far as I can tell and from user feedback reported, Xbox plays well on master this time around... which is one of the main reasons for going to master site wide. I mean I'm just assuming but I feel like it makes sense. 2k23 plays well on master vs 2k21, but I haven't seen anything that says it plays easier than 2k21 on pro. On pro last season there was only 1 xbox player in the top 100wgr and they made around half the cuts. With plat now playing a total field size around cut line last season and not clearing demos by making cuts...you can see my logic there, right? I could be wrong but it just seems very unlikely that xbox is going to be able to get to plat and compete, and the majority of players who are likely to be on plat would prefer the toughest challenge of legend. I only asked because I saw Doyley first announce plat on master for xbox players, but then saw after the smaller plat size announcement. Just seems like those two contradict each other. But who knows, it is a "new" game after all. From what I've seen master on 2k23 offers a much closer experience across platforms than Pro did on 2k21 just by virtue of off-tempo shots not being penalised as much and swingplane being more of a factor. I tend to agree we'll still find it tough to get into the top 50 (that's an elite group!) but think the gameplay will be significantly more balanced across platforms. Shame I'm shite at this version haha
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Nov 2, 2022 16:39:00 GMT -5
I had a similar rage to you when I played last night. Truth is to compete on the top tours (or probably really any of the tours) you will NEED to use a legendary ball. Nah, I'm not having that. Can't see that being an accurate statement. Would they be advantageous? Most certainly, but will they be required to compete at any level - no. Not in my opinion. Depends entirely on the course and setup. Based on courses so far I've played across the game they'll absolutely be an advantage of the course is tricky and greens are fast. It'll rest on how the design community responds to the mechanics I guess. I don't have a massive problem with it though. Once you get your fittings sorted balls seem to get very affordable without spending real money.
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Post by jjbuzzotta on Nov 2, 2022 16:40:17 GMT -5
I had a similar rage to you when I played last night. Truth is to compete on the top tours (or probably really any of the tours) you will NEED to use a legendary ball. Nah, I'm not having that. Can't see that being an accurate statement. Would they be advantageous? Most certainly, but will they be required to compete at any level - no. Not in my opinion. The 15th hole on the plat tour exhibition event this week in the second round was not playable with the default ball. It just wasn't. Unless you holed it completely you literally couldn't lag the ball near the pin. I should know. I had 6 balls go into the water on the hole so I had six tries to lag it up there and it literally didn't bite once. It's beyond advantage. At least for the top tours.
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