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Post by peskypeanut on Oct 25, 2022 17:45:08 GMT -5
Plat needs to be on legend swing. Master is a joke. The scoring will be just like last season on master.
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Post by peskypeanut on Oct 25, 2022 17:51:45 GMT -5
If the top tour is on master we will have to play tricked up courses like last year on pro. 🥲
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Post by greyosprey on Oct 25, 2022 18:02:45 GMT -5
In the past, there's always been an unused "TBD" society. If the have the same set-up as in past games, it would be nice if they'd consider using it as a Legend Society.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Oct 25, 2022 18:38:16 GMT -5
I must admit I've yet to try a round on Legend so not qualified to really have an opinion on it. But what I can say from an Xbox point of view is there's certainly no need to return to Pro for the coming season. It's never been about console disparity, that's beyond all of our control and just is what it is. If it still is? It is all about enjoying having a go. 2K21 on Master on Xbox was like repeatedly banging your head against a solid object and asking for more. Not so on this version, it plays really well. It's a decent challenge still but it feels like a fair challenge. I'm loving it to be honest, I think it's the best golf game I've ever played. Once we've all leveled up a bit maybe Legend will be the way to go? Either way it'll be better than last season which really wasn't ideal for anyone.
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Post by PollingPoints on Oct 25, 2022 18:41:40 GMT -5
Yeah, were two weeks in and we're already seeing Pro like scores from 21 on Master via the Plat guys.
I think for me personally, CC Master and Legend Pro Tours would be Ideal.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Oct 25, 2022 18:51:25 GMT -5
Yeah, were two weeks in and we're already seeing Pro like scores from 21 on Master via the Plat guys. I think for me personally, CC Master and Legend Pro Tours would be Ideal. The thing is those guys will shoot those scores no matter what settings we're on. Unless you make it so hard that no one else wants to play. It's been like that in every game. I'm hopeful Legend will work actually, but you're still going to see those scores. As always, it's all relative. |
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Post by williamwes626 on Oct 25, 2022 19:20:15 GMT -5
TGC has been hesitant to use different difficulties because years ago, they had tried it, and players would get promoted then get upset with TGC for having to do a difficulty level that was too hard for them. So TGC made the promotion more about going against better players alone and have kept all tours the same difficulty since. The history is here to learn from and TGC chose even difficulty from then on. I can understand both sides. But if CC, and the 3 pro tours are all the same difficulty, then a player should not have any problem being promoted - they'll still be comfy in their difficulty level and there's just going against tougher players. TGC has a system for all of this, I don't think we should be allowed an option to backout of a promotion. If they aren't good, they'll end up being demoted a few weeks later anyway. As for self-demotion-usually for platinum only in the past, again, I think only TGC should control this and they have been nice and asked people to self-demote when platinum was too filled up. If some don't self-demote when TGC needs them to for the sake of having a legit playfield for Platinum, they eventually are forced to give out extra demotion marks until enough people drop back to Elite. "If they aren't good, they'll end up being demoted a few weeks later anyway." If this is the logic, then it shouldn't matter if the tours play on different difficulties. Someone gets promoted up to the Pro Tours and isn't good enough on Legend swing, they'll get demoted back down to the CC's and compete there on Master again. I know we're trying to keep as many people happy as possible, but this conversation around catering to people playing in a competitive tour that for some reason don't want competition unless they can win and play well every week is a very weird one to me. The promotion/demotion thing is connected to whether or not TGC has the same difficulty for everyone. When someone got promoted, they didn't like the change in difficulty. We're discussing if we're going with one difficulty for everyone or not. |
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Post by Blade on Oct 25, 2022 20:36:35 GMT -5
The promotion/demotion thing is connected to whether or not TGC has the same difficulty for everyone. When someone got promoted, they didn't like the change in difficulty. We're discussing if we're going with one difficulty for everyone or not. When people get promoted from the KF tour in real life, I bet most of them don't like running with the PGA folks. Getting promoted should come with some challenges. I shot a -2 on CC course R1 (I was CC-K). I really enjoyed the round, unlike when I was playing in 2K21. Please leave at least the lower CC tiers in the Pro setting. |
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Post by Blade on Oct 25, 2022 20:40:55 GMT -5
Well, hoping that Pro difficulty is ruled out.. ON XB - the CC Exhibition event this week has a player at -71 for the 4 rounds. Don't know about y'all, but that is pretty ridiculous. -20 round 1, -21 round 2, LOL So really good players can kill it. That is why you have Platinum at Legend. What about the half of us that are will never, ever be that good. Need to look at the aggregate, not the best when considering the CC setting (especially the lower half of CC). Please give different settings a try - worst case scenario is you have to go to the old way. If you go the same way as last year (all the same), you will never learn what could have been. |
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Post by jjbuzzotta on Oct 25, 2022 21:14:12 GMT -5
Personally it just feels like master and pro all that matters is how good you are at putting since everyone’s on the green in reg. Legend adds an element of course management, minimizing mistakes that the other difficulties don’t reflect. I shoot anywhere from even to +10 every round on legend and feel like once I’m leveled up I’ll be able to get to 2 or 3 under par consistently on legend. If I were in a flight where -10 or -15 is a tournament winning score that would be my dream online golf society. I think lower flights on legend may have one or two -20s but a -15 round would be a top 25 or better score pretty consistently. I think.
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Post by axelvonfersen on Oct 25, 2022 22:56:22 GMT -5
I'm solidly in the "close the door between CC and Pro divisions" camp. Run CC on Master swing. The ladder stops with CC-A. One Q-school to get in here.
Another Q-school on Legends swing which will qualify you for the Pro Tours. Beer league use Pro Swing with an optional 3-click for those wanting that. That way TGC Tours caters to all needs.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Oct 25, 2022 23:20:05 GMT -5
I'm solidly in the "close the door between CC and Pro divisions" camp. Run CC on Master swing. The ladder stops with CC-A. One Q-school to get in here. Another Q-school on Legends swing which will qualify you for the Pro Tours. Beer league use Pro Swing with an optional 3-click for those wanting that. That way TGC Tours caters to all needs. How does this even work? You do a 1st qualifying event, then a 2nd for the Pro Tours or are you saying you pick one or the other and are stuck there for the season? Seems overly complicated and restrictive. No promotion from CC-A to Kinetic is a hard no for me. It should be fluid from top to bottom. No walls anywhere, even if there is (maybe or maybe not) a difficulty bump at some point. |
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Post by booze2407 on Oct 25, 2022 23:33:54 GMT -5
I'm solidly in the "close the door between CC and Pro divisions" camp. Run CC on Master swing. The ladder stops with CC-A. One Q-school to get in here. Another Q-school on Legends swing which will qualify you for the Pro Tours. Beer league use Pro Swing with an optional 3-click for those wanting that. That way TGC Tours caters to all needs. This has been my thought as well with closing the door. But unfortunately my prediction is legend will be ruled out based off Xbox polling points. Honestly I think it’s a given and people are just wasting their time discussing it. Legend isn’t happening unless it’s possible to gain gray points through tempo fittings, even then it still probably won’t happen though. Is it not possible for HB to just enlarge the perfect and gray windows on Xbox, to compensate for the polling point disparity vs PC/PS? So if what I’ve read is correct in that Xbox on legend has a center perfect and the next points are dark gray, you just enlarge the windows on that system so those points become gray. Am I missing an obvious reason why this doesn’t fix it? From what I’m understanding, the polling points on Xbox are just farther apart. So I could be totally off. |
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Post by axelvonfersen on Oct 26, 2022 0:07:12 GMT -5
I'm solidly in the "close the door between CC and Pro divisions" camp. Run CC on Master swing. The ladder stops with CC-A. One Q-school to get in here. Another Q-school on Legends swing which will qualify you for the Pro Tours. Beer league use Pro Swing with an optional 3-click for those wanting that. That way TGC Tours caters to all needs. How does this even work? You do a 1st qualifying event, then a 2nd for the Pro Tours or are you saying you pick one or the other and are stuck there for the season? Seems overly complicated and restrictive. No promotion from CC-A to Kinetic is a hard no for me. It should be fluid from top to bottom. No walls anywhere, even if there is (maybe or maybe not) a difficulty bump at some point. You pick one or the other, if you want to change tours you opt out and requalify. |
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Oct 26, 2022 0:33:38 GMT -5
How does this even work? You do a 1st qualifying event, then a 2nd for the Pro Tours or are you saying you pick one or the other and are stuck there for the season? Seems overly complicated and restrictive. No promotion from CC-A to Kinetic is a hard no for me. It should be fluid from top to bottom. No walls anywhere, even if there is (maybe or maybe not) a difficulty bump at some point. You pick one or the other, if you want to change tours you opt out and requalify. Pro Tours and CC tours have a specific number of players on it per tier. How do you adjust if one or the other gets a lot more players wanting to qualify than the other and vice versa? |
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