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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 18, 2021 14:50:10 GMT -5
How is Platinum no longer about who is the best player? Yes, things may well be closer but you’d still think the best players, those that make least errors, will still be the best. As for CC courses the scheduler has the unenviable task of selecting a course to cover the varying skill levels of 12 divisions of players. They’re unlikely to challenge Platinum level players but I hope you have fun playing them nonetheless. It isn't because there will be a lot more luck involved.
You don't agree that the change to pro gives the course scheduler more choices?
More choices yes, but the ability to choose courses to challenge a Platinum player playing in CC, probably not to be honest. |
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Post by Mick on Sept 18, 2021 15:25:31 GMT -5
I got -9 without trying too hard, that was kind of the point. I've tried joining other Societies too and it's hard to find one (on PC) that have a lot of people playing. I even made a topic about it. I'm just giving my feedback, you don't have to agree with it. By reading the comments I think a lot of people wish there was something between Master and Pro for the swing difficulty.Nail on head Mick but sadly it would appear that HB/2K have walked away from this edition of the game so it is what it is and TGCT are making the best of a bad job. TST is a good suggestion if you don't already play it. I tried True Sim again and low and behold it is actually pretty fun. I tried it long ago and didn't like it, I must have improved my game since, lol. Thanks everyone who recommended it. It's like when you play a round of golf on a new course for the first time. It does not give you much information ahead and the putting is pretty hard to read (which is both good and bad). |
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Post by InsanericK on Sept 18, 2021 15:49:01 GMT -5
I hope we can set different difficulty level for clubs and putter in the next game
A (slighlty tougher) pro swing with legend putting would be very good with a fair level of competition for every platforms
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Post by zooby97 on Sept 18, 2021 18:15:50 GMT -5
Nail on head Mick but sadly it would appear that HB/2K have walked away from this edition of the game so it is what it is and TGCT are making the best of a bad job. TST is a good suggestion if you don't already play it. I tried True Sim again and low and behold it is actually pretty fun. I tried it long ago and didn't like it, I must have improved my game since, lol. Thanks everyone who recommended it. It's like when you play a round of golf on a new course for the first time. It does not give you much information ahead and the putting is pretty hard to read (which is both good and bad). Personally I feel Tru Sim/ masters is where Plat should be…I feel that is where you can test the best players in the world at.. But they would just map out the courses on local match anyway so maybe not…but then again the Real PGA players also map out the courses that they play on Monday-Wed…..lol .. |
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Post by zooby97 on Sept 18, 2021 18:46:50 GMT -5
Played an exhibition round on CC-Tour, here's my thoughts, - Driving/iron shots are now way too easy. The higher level tours (PGA and European) should stick with Master and CC-Tour somewhere between Pro and Master if it's possible. - If they want putting grid on for CC-Tours then the speed should be faster than the PGA/European tours. My round I shot -9 and I played fairly fast. You have other scores close to -20, this shouldn't really be happening. I would love mine to be even par (0) to maybe -3 on average and the best players maybe getting down to -15 on easy courses? It's tough to do though. Mick, are you a Kinetic, Elite or Plat player? Anyway, these settings are a compromise and they are only out until new game arrives, whenever that is….plus it is a win win, a lot of former TGC Tour players are returning again…..and that is a good thing. And the TGC administration knows the settings are easier…..it is a quick shot in the arm for the tour…. |
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Post by 9ironanon on Sept 18, 2021 20:18:49 GMT -5
Its gonna be funny about the people complaining about their speculation on the upcoming season being the same ones crying for the wind to be turned down and the greens to stop being 170+ and hard as concrete because they can't throw it at the pin stay on the green, while I'll be sitting here laughing and making adjustments week in and week out and using the ground game and never complaining about "realistic scores" on a video game. I'm still going to need to shoot 8-10 under a round to get a promo mark in CC-D just like it was before the swing update.
But please keep on complaining, it's excellent fodder to read when I'm sitting on the can.
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Post by blueblood1995 on Sept 18, 2021 20:45:04 GMT -5
Its gonna be funny about the people complaining about their speculation on the upcoming season being the same ones crying for the wind to be turned down and the greens to stop being 170+ and hard as concrete because they can't throw it at the pin stay on the green, while I'll be sitting here laughing and making adjustments week in and week out and using the ground game and never complaining about "realistic scores" on a video game. I'm still going to need to shoot 8-10 under a round to get a promo mark in CC-D just like it was before the swing update. But please keep on complaining, it's excellent fodder to read when I'm sitting on the can. Charles Darwin... "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change." Those in life who are most successful just get on and do it. No point complaining. Accept the challenge, adapt and get better. |
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Post by catcherman22 on Sept 18, 2021 21:10:12 GMT -5
This exhibition CC course was probably the hardest course all season on CC... I am using it to see how hard I can go  |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 19, 2021 5:32:30 GMT -5
This exhibition CC course was probably the hardest course all season on CC... I am using it to see how hard I can go Which course was that Dan? Sorry I have not a chance to play the latest event if that is what you are referring to. |
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Post by catcherman22 on Sept 19, 2021 10:12:52 GMT -5
It’s on Georgia Match Club
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 19, 2021 10:19:00 GMT -5
It’s on Georgia Match Club 36 shots better though I was pretty shite at Master level 🤣 |
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Post by gmangi1955 on Sept 19, 2021 13:48:23 GMT -5
I played the CC tour practice round and I'm finding that this game is now equal to the Masters settings on the TGC2019 game, this being on Pro settings. I'm very satisfied with the settings and now waiting for the next season to get started. See you all then. Good luck no matter what the settings are at.
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Post by martbloke on Sept 19, 2021 16:48:19 GMT -5
I am an xboxer and even so, Pro is too easy (for me) because the windows are large. I think they're way over double master possibly 3x but that's from memory and would have to double check that so don't quote me on that haha. The grey zones are quite large too so hitting a bad shot that actually penalises you is actually quite difficult IMO. -------------- I'm interested how you are playing on XBox. I use a Series S with a wired connection SX controller. Do you have just the distinct polling points around the Perfect zone? I've spent time monitoring the distribution of my tempo outcomes and I certainly do. In my experience, the window size for Perfect is irrelevant between Perfect and Masters (subject to correct calibration) as I only have one "12 o'clock" polling point outcome. It is the tempo misses that make Masters painful vs Pro. Those windows are so small on Masters that my "11:30" and "12:30" polling points are not Grey misses. It is the harsh penalty for those misses that makes Masters too frustrating for me. However, with the right clubs, I do get Grey Fast & Slow misses on Pro. This gives me a more satisfactory distribution of misses (like a Pro) rather than the good or hacker outcome from Masters. Where the cross platform unfairness seems to come from is they seem to get that nice distribution of misses on Masters. Of course, I'm ignoring the other nonsense that randomly impacts tempo which seems to afflict all platforms and makes us all rage! I'm on Xbox One X and use my wireless, official controller (customised from their lab) on 30Hz as on 60Hz, my fan goes wild and I worry for the Xbox. I play without feedback on because it's just distracting as hell, like the green grid is too. But I have read some of your, and others', thoughts on these polling points and had a little test myself which meant putting feedback back on. I found that it kind of depended on my backswing length when going for 100% as to where I could hit in the perfect zone. I generally hit 101 or 102% it seems with my original swing (waiting for the animation to be at the top but of course with the lag of 30Hz, this is actually just beyond the top of the swing). With this I could not hot dead centre of the perfect zone. This is also why I get so many fasts too as the zone shrinks a touch which was never a problem before the update as these were not penalised as much and what looked more like grey fasts. So anyways, I have learned and adjusted to what feels like a shortened backswing but is actually still hitting 100-101% swing power (because of the 30Hz lag). With this I get so many more perfects on Master. Anyways, when I get the 100% power or just short, I can hit dead centre and different areas within. I'd say that from the various backswing lengths, it results in probably 4-5 different points within perfect and also get the grey fast and slows. But like I say, that was just a quick few tests a while back and since then, I've gone back to not caring what point within the zone my swing results in as long as I hit a perfectly executed shot and so the distracting feedback has always been off. What's interesting though is I do also have a Series S upstairs which I've tried the game on on 60Hz and it's so different. Perfects seem like a given on that on Master and it does appear to be more points that can be hit in that. Makes me feel that it's all about the frames. But in any case, I much prefer the challenge of 30Hz on my One X so that's all I play it on now. |
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Post by martbloke on Sept 19, 2021 17:01:13 GMT -5
I hope we can set different difficulty level for clubs and putter in the next game A (slighlty tougher) pro swing with legend putting would be very good with a fair level of competition for every platforms Yeah I mean if they stick with the current mechanic, I'd like them to allow us to select difficulty for tempo and swing plane individually while closing gaps between the different tempo difficulties - namely between Pro and Masters. Would love playing a tempo slightly easier than Master but tougher than Pro and have my swing plane on Legend as I enjoy the penalty on the swing when it's not dead straight. That of course makes putting trickier which is good. I played the CC tour practice round and I'm finding that this game is now equal to the Masters settings on the TGC2019 game, this being on Pro settings. I'm very satisfied with the settings and now waiting for the next season to get started. See you all then. Good luck no matter what the settings are at. I think it was said by the devs at launch that Pro on this game (before the updates) was like Master clubs on 2019. I agreed with this as driving on 2019 was stupid easy and that's also the same for Pro on this. Master was always more difficult that 2019 Master clubs but even moreso now after the update. |
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Post by InsanericK on Sept 19, 2021 17:27:38 GMT -5
I hope we can set different difficulty level for clubs and putter in the next game A (slighlty tougher) pro swing with legend putting would be very good with a fair level of competition for every platforms Yeah I mean if they stick with the current mechanic, I'd like them to allow us to select difficulty for tempo and swing plane individually while closing gaps between the different tempo difficulties - namely between Pro and Masters. Yeah I would doubt alot they would split the difficulty between tempo and swing plane, but I get ya. I'm in for realism as close as possible with what seeon TV with the pro. Let's just take driving for example. PGA pro's are avereging something like 63% of fairway hit. But you rarely see these guys going off the fairways in the middle of the woods like a red fast drive will produce. It should be way tougher to hit it straight, but the penalty of a miss shouldn't be that much. Gimme a break with missing my pitch shot by 4% and lose 35% of the distance. Things like that Also, an easy way to control the putting difficulty would be to have the choice between different size of green grid. So they tell you the slope, figure the rest by yourself |
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