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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 6, 2021 3:57:47 GMT -5
I've never really understood people's obsession with the scoring in a video golf game. It's all relative. The simple fact is, having scores which replicate real life would require settings that the vast majority of players would not enjoy. I want to be challenged. I've already said that even on Xbox I personally prefer the challenge of Masters settings but that doesn't mean that there's no challenge on Pro. And I have no doubt that this will bring the cross platform scoring closer. Not the same, we're going to be hitting a higher percentage of greys, but they don't kill you like the reds do. That has got to be a good thing hasn't it? The one thing I'm worried might be an issue is this might take away most of the elements of course management, particularly off the tee. At the moment I have to make a decision off lots of tees, is it worth the risk? It might become a bit 'grip it and rip it', but we've got some clever designers who have always managed to tailor their courses to the TGCT settings. Let's see... I remember it being said when the new game came out players would struggle to put in low scores. Didn't take them long to be knocking out -40/-50 per tournament even on tricky tracks. I completely agree, so what if the cut line is -25. Does it really matter. We're all facing the same challenge amongst players of similar skill level. Without a doubt Jamie the design community will take up the challenge of the new settings. Perhaps another design competition in the making
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Post by inflames47 on Sept 6, 2021 4:09:22 GMT -5
That is the end for me...I like the competition of playing others at masters level...Thank you for having a great site for doing that while it lasted!! The opt for the Beer League which will be Master level or True Sim tour Why is this so bloody hard to understand..
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Post by southportdc on Sept 6, 2021 4:15:30 GMT -5
I don't understand why so many people are mad at the idea of -70 scores winning each week but fine with -45 and -50 winning.
What makes one fine and the other unconscionable?
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Post by inflames47 on Sept 6, 2021 4:23:34 GMT -5
I find it interesting to note that by far the majority of people that are heavily involved in helping to organise TGCT and/or active on the forum and regular contributors, even those not necessarily over the moon about moving from Master to Pro, are fully supportive of the thinking behind the change. They see the bigger picture. The group will always be far more important than the individual. And while you're at it, if you haven't already done so, give a few quid to keep this wonderful site alive. A point that has perhaps been missed from Doyley's opening message amongst the angst surrounding the difficulty level change.Done
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Post by fadgewacker on Sept 6, 2021 4:27:23 GMT -5
I don't understand why so many people are mad at the idea of -70 scores winning each week but fine with -45 and -50 winning. What makes one fine and the other unconscionable? It's the fact that essentially a couple of pars can ruin your chances at winning, at the highest level. It's birdie / eagle or bust, for 72 holes. If you get a bit out of shape, there's no real way to grind a great back 36 out and come through the pack. Or at least that's how I see it.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 6, 2021 4:33:10 GMT -5
That is the end for me...I like the competition of playing others at masters level...Thank you for having a great site for doing that while it lasted!! The opt for the Beer League which will be Master level or True Sim tour Why is this so bloody hard to understand.. All they need to do Carol is get together, a group of like minded individuals, and set up something like we did with The Brew Crew in The Beer League to enhance the TGCT experience and have a lot of fun at the same time while TGCT do all the leg work collecting all the scores together for them and checking API and they can run an elite cross platform league. All it takes is a bit of time and effort.
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Post by southportdc on Sept 6, 2021 4:40:34 GMT -5
I don't understand why so many people are mad at the idea of -70 scores winning each week but fine with -45 and -50 winning. What makes one fine and the other unconscionable? It's the fact that essentially a couple of pars can ruin your chances at winning, at the highest level. It's birdie / eagle or bust, for 72 holes. If you get a bit out of shape, there's no real way to grind a great back 36 out and come through the pack. Or at least that's how I see it. That's fair, but the par itself isn't really important the way I see it. It's about competing against the other players, whether they win in 220 or 240 shots. The score vs par doesn't mean much when you're already so far below it imo.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 6, 2021 4:41:45 GMT -5
I don't understand why so many people are mad at the idea of -70 scores winning each week but fine with -45 and -50 winning. What makes one fine and the other unconscionable? It's the fact that essentially a couple of pars can ruin your chances at winning, at the highest level. It's birdie / eagle or bust, for 72 holes. If you get a bit out of shape, there's no real way to grind a great back 36 out and come through the pack. Or at least that's how I see it. I agree it's a fine line for the top players and maybe their best bet is to go the TST route because if that remains at Master level it is going to be the place to be for the elite players surely. I can't understand the whining about the challenge being taken away when there is a perfectly good, very well run, society already set up within TGCT.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 6, 2021 4:45:05 GMT -5
DoyleyAny thoughts on what to do if a new game drops before S8's scheduled end?
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Post by Loftyando on Sept 6, 2021 4:50:33 GMT -5
Just wait until HB Studios decides to come out from living under a rock and release another swing update and we will all be learning a new swing again
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Post by fadgewacker on Sept 6, 2021 4:55:19 GMT -5
It's the fact that essentially a couple of pars can ruin your chances at winning, at the highest level. It's birdie / eagle or bust, for 72 holes. If you get a bit out of shape, there's no real way to grind a great back 36 out and come through the pack. Or at least that's how I see it. I agree it's a fine line for the top players and maybe their best bet is to go the TST route because if that remains at Master level it is going to be the place to be for the elite players surely. I can't understand the whining about the challenge being taken away when there is a perfectly good, very well run, society already set up within TGCT. I mean, I can understand the whining, to a point, but I well understand why the change is being made and support it. All of a sudden, the reason so many started out with TGCT has been a little upended. Admittedly, the majority of the best players will likely hang around, but the suggestion that the place for elite players is now the Beer League or TST is a bit off a kick in the stones for some I should think. Masters, The Open, Ryder Cups etc... all the main events will be on the main tours, which will be less challenging than ever, and will be a shame if the best players aren't included. TST is great - I love it, but a lot of folks just don't / won't enjoy it... While I agree with the pro swing change for parity, I have my reservations about how enjoyable it will be, and if we end up VF/VF/VF each week on tricked up courses in an attempt to keep the scoring in check, I can see people getting sick of it quite quickly.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 6, 2021 5:01:34 GMT -5
I agree it's a fine line for the top players and maybe their best bet is to go the TST route because if that remains at Master level it is going to be the place to be for the elite players surely. I can't understand the whining about the challenge being taken away when there is a perfectly good, very well run, society already set up within TGCT. I mean, I can understand the whining, to a point, but I well understand why the change is being made and support it. All of a sudden, the reason so many started out with TGCT has been a little upended. Admittedly, the majority of the best players will likely hang around, but the suggestion that the place for elite players is now the Beer League or TST is a bit off a kick in the stones for some I should think. Masters, The Open, Ryder Cups etc... all the main events will be on the main tours, which will be less challenging than ever, and will be a shame if the best players aren't included. TST is great - I love it, but a lot of folks just don't / won't enjoy it... While I agree with the pro swing change for parity, I have my reservations about how enjoyable it will be, and if we end up VF/VF/VF each week on tricked up courses in an attempt to keep the scoring in check, I can see people getting sick of it quite quickly. Never having been near the Pro Tours I must admit I didn't take into consideration the extra events open to the highly skilled so your point is duly noted and understood.
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Post by The Chef on Sept 6, 2021 5:23:12 GMT -5
I play this for the fun and the community. Not bothered in the slightest what happens as long as I can have a cigarette whilst I play, and eat a sandwich between shots.
If I want a harder challenge. I book a round in real life. Plus it works the sandwich off.
Keep it Culinary
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Roll on the next season.
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Post by Q on Sept 6, 2021 5:30:30 GMT -5
if we end up VF/VF/VF each week on tricked up courses in an attempt to keep the scoring in check, I can see people getting sick of it quite quickly. I have no plans of doing this, Will be evaluating the scoring for the first couple of weeks but I dont think scheduling a Black Salt valley every week is a good idea for the sanity of the people Im scheduling for
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Post by batfunk on Sept 6, 2021 7:01:02 GMT -5
I completely disagree with the New changes and I'm a poor player(cc-g) : I love competition and Master swing, which is the only setting that makes me believe I'm playing real golf. Suppress qualifiers is also stupid, it usually gives you a fresh start and the hope to begin with better players(even if you're sure to go down in the ladder). I understand tgctours board's point of view(tgctours lost à lot of player) but the spirit of the game is simulation ! Why do you you want to compete with the next EA Tiger Woods game ?
I'm OK only if you increase drastically difficulty course, which is ridiculously low(highway fairways, flat greens).
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