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Post by meunier33 on Aug 17, 2021 17:19:24 GMT -5
I do not know if I will have a fast or slow or perfect. I do not know how spin works in this game. I do not know how to keep your swing stable. I do not know what club forgiveness is. All I know how to swing is the old overhit and release swing from the golf club one. I have tried stopping before the overhit zone in the swing and it has not made a difference. I wish someone would get on the course with me and help me improve my swing. I don't know if it would help if I posted replays. I have not made a cut even in beer league since the update at the end of April and I do not know what to do.
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Post by spikel on Aug 17, 2021 19:18:32 GMT -5
What system are you on? If you're on PC I'll play a round with you. I feel like that sometimes, but some weeks I do very well. It's a frustrating game and there's a lot of factors both technical and mental that could be at play.
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Post by twofor22 on Aug 17, 2021 20:47:08 GMT -5
The subject heading almost describes my real life golf at times 😂😂
Sometimes it feels like the tempo is all over the place in this game but I can never figure out if I've temporarily lost my rhythm or if the game itself is screwing up. The sensitivity leaves little margin for error, that you can't feel a difference a lot of the time between perfect or grey. I can usually feel it when I hit a red but not always then either. All that helped me was just practice and working out a technique that gave me the most consistent tempo.
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Post by gdog on Aug 20, 2021 8:47:15 GMT -5
I do not know if I will have a fast or slow or perfect. I do not know how spin works in this game. I do not know how to keep your swing stable. I do not know what club forgiveness is. All I know how to swing is the old overhit and release swing from the golf club one. I have tried stopping before the overhit zone in the swing and it has not made a difference. I wish someone would get on the course with me and help me improve my swing. I don't know if it would help if I posted replays. I have not made a cut even in beer league since the update at the end of April and I do not know what to do. One thing worth trying is playing with stock pro settings. This is what the matchmaking is played on. It gives you pro vision and a ton of other stuff. Like the arc/ball trajectory line. This shows you what spin/lofting does in realtime. Really good way to learn how much loft add/subtracts. Also really good for figuring draw and fade. The power bar might help you figure out when to start the downswing earlier. I grinded matchmaking at the start of the game with these settings and it gave me a much better understanding of how the game works. Also club forgiveness is a stat you can see if you inspect your bag between rounds. If you use more forgiving statted clubs the larger the grey and white perfect windows are. |
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Post by meunier33 on Nov 2, 2021 14:20:58 GMT -5
I'd never use stock pro settings because that is not what my society is played on.
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Post by gdog on Nov 4, 2021 8:23:32 GMT -5
I'd never use stock pro settings because that is not what my society is played on.  wasnt suggesting playing like that all the time. As you stated you dont know how spin or loft works, therefore I thought suggesting a training method where these things are shown was a good call. My bad. Good luck gitting gud  |
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Post by meunier33 on Nov 10, 2021 3:30:16 GMT -5
Well its mainly that I do not use full swings ever. My thinking is that I want to spend the minimum time touching the control possible. Many of my shots are 50 feet off because of tempo even though my swing line is dead straight. Ive had problems recently not being able to swing the putter through and getting very fasts on chips because of how little I touch the control stick. I want to be able to choose to not have a backswing or not have a downswing and still get a perfect swing.
I started playing like this because my swing is usually delayed and I try to compensate for it. I always hit red 101 unless I am trying to cut down a shot even with not taking a full swing. Even though I get 78 down 38 up there will be a one or two second delay between my controller and the golfer. I play this game even though I know I will NEVER be good at it. Before tempo was in place I was about to join the level below the top tour. After tempo I went to the Beer League because I could not shoot lower than +10 per round in CC. I still think I can force the game to play how I want to play it and ignore what the game says the perfect swing is. I have been playing like there IS NO perfect swing and that I define what the correct swing is and the game does not.
I never use loft or spin controls. I don't even know where they are. I never use fade/slice on a shot unless there is an obstacle. I DO NOT CARE about these secondary controls and do not want to use them! I just use all the medium difficulty (purple) Hogan clubs and do not care about shot forgiveness. As far as I know if you add more forgiveness you lose shot distance.
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Post by schmiff on Nov 10, 2021 8:10:36 GMT -5
My experience is that adjusting using spin and loft is much easier than hitting a less than 100% swing. The only time I'll use partial swings is for chips under about 8 yards, or if I'm trying to drive a green where a full swing would end up overshooting but the next club down wouldn't reach.
I want to be able to choose to not have a backswing or not have a downswing and still get a perfect swing.
This is a very confusing statement, like saying you want to choose to not use an accelerator or a brake and still drive a car perfectly!
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Post by twofor22 on Nov 10, 2021 19:36:47 GMT -5
You won't get anywhere if you keep trying whatever strange method you're using. It clearly doesn't work given the amount of times you've repeatedly complained as such. You can't make the game play differently to how it's programmed.
Having minimal use or control of the controller stick is akin to swinging a real club holding it with two fingers. You will get absolutely no consistency, spray it all over the place and probably mis-hit most shots.
It sounds to me like you have an aversion to actually learning/trying anything new or different, and are just stubbornly trying to keep shoving a square peg into a round hole then having a whinge when it doesn't fit. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, it'll never happen.
Same reason I recently began lessons with my club pro for my real life golf. I'd reached a plateau of improvement doing it myself and wasn't satisfied with my game. I'm into a swing rebuild now, and while it's a process and takes a bit to get used to new movements and whatever, I am beginning to see improvement in consistency, mainly with short irons so far but I'll get there with the longer clubs. Obviously it wouldn't take as much to get used to a new stick movement but the principle is the same. You just have to be willing to change and learn.
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Post by meunier33 on Nov 11, 2021 3:25:41 GMT -5
One thing I realized is I have been trying to control my ball roll out/distance control with my swing only. I have tried to control how hard the ball lands and/or accuracy on shots with small targets by not using a complete swing. I have never tried using the True Shot controls instead because I heard it takes away more forgiveness from the shot.
Another thing I saw on Youtube is that you can use True Shot to make shots in between clubs but I don't understand it. I usually just give up on shots like that. For example on those par 3's where 3 hybrid is too long and 4 iron too short I lay up with the 4 iron and hope to make the pitch or splash and putt for par.
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Post by schmiff on Nov 11, 2021 6:55:38 GMT -5
Some True Shot basics - with irons you can get a little more distance by pushing the circle on the swing plane upwards. This doesn't work well with driver/woods/hybrids but for irons it has the effect of causing a long rollout which will end up further than you would normally have hit. The shot will carry less distance in the air though, so it's not a good option if you have to hit over obstacles near the landing point. Pushing up in this way also reduces the effect of a head wind because the ball is in the air for less time.
If you want to shorten a shot while still swinging 100%, the above will actually reduce the overall distance of shots with a driver/wood/hybrid (again though, carry distance will be reduced). For any club, pulling the circle downwards will reduce the distance while increasing loft (more so for irons). This also makes the wind have more effect than it usually would.
The other meter on the right is used to add spin to the ball - this is most useful for making a ball stop quicker when it lands on the green. Pulling it down to the bottom on a short iron/wedge shot should in theory make the ball stop pretty quickly and then spin back. This is useful for hitting pins towards the front of the green.
Pulling both the left and right meters/circles down to the bottom at the same time can emphasise the effect and reduce distance a bit more. However the further from the centre these circles are, the smaller the safe zone of the swing plane becomes, making it more important to hit a straight shot or the left/right miss will be more exaggerated, and the more a fast/slow is punished.
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Post by meunier33 on Nov 11, 2021 21:56:55 GMT -5
I also cant figure out why I have a TON of putts that hit the edge of the hole and spin out even though I know I am not over hitting the putt.
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Post by twofor22 on Nov 11, 2021 22:56:42 GMT -5
I also cant figure out why I have a TON of putts that hit the edge of the hole and spin out even though I know I am not over hitting the putt. Line is another reason they lip out, not just speed. |
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Post by meunier33 on Nov 30, 2021 18:30:41 GMT -5
I just shot a +13 in beer league through the first two rounds. I want to able to swing a very slow or a very fast and still get a perfect result. I will force the game to obey the technique I WANT, which is not using a backswing or downswing when I want to. Why do I complain about this over and over and keep forcing it? Because it HAS WORKED BEFORE. I shot a -12 in the tourney before this one using the EXACT SAME TECHNIQUE. I have made 6 cuts on beer league this season using this letting the stick fly technique. Low scores like -40 are out of the question though. All I can hope to do is be a few strokes over the cut. What I do not know is why my technique sometimes works and is sometimes a disaster like today. Knowing that some week it will work again is why I never change my swing technique.
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Post by twofor22 on Nov 30, 2021 18:45:29 GMT -5
Well stop complaining about it then. If you refuse to try to learn a technique that will work every week instead of just occasionally then that's up to you, but you'll just forever keep getting the same inconsistent results. The game's swing mechanics won't change just because you want them to.
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