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Post by moneyman273 on May 26, 2021 13:41:59 GMT -5
It might just be me. I use original wireless Xbox controller with original Xbox 1 and find the game totally unplayable now. I calibrate my swing and if I plan for a fast downswing, meaning I swing faster on the downswing for feel and not looking for a fast on the swing meter, and it calibrates for perfects, the next day the game will switch my calibration to a smooth normal tempo which is not how I play or calibrated in the first place. Chips and pitches are a joke. Sand shots, don’t even get me started. I can’t hit a drive above 260 on a 280 club. I have to use two clubs up to get to the green in regulation bc most likely I will have a slight fast on the meter which drops me easily 20 yards. Just my soap box. 🤷♂️ Original Xbox One and original controller. I share your sentiments. I can barely complete a round per day now. Still no rounds under par since the fuuuckery occurred. |
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Post by Demonondalinks on May 26, 2021 14:50:54 GMT -5
It might just be me. I use original wireless Xbox controller with original Xbox 1 and find the game totally unplayable now. I calibrate my swing and if I plan for a fast downswing, meaning I swing faster on the downswing for feel and not looking for a fast on the swing meter, and it calibrates for perfects, the next day the game will switch my calibration to a smooth normal tempo which is not how I play or calibrated in the first place. Chips and pitches are a joke. Sand shots, don’t even get me started. I can’t hit a drive above 260 on a 280 club. I have to use two clubs up to get to the green in regulation bc most likely I will have a slight fast on the meter which drops me easily 20 yards. Just my soap box. 🤷♂️ Original Xbox One and original controller. I share your sentiments. I can barely complete a round per day now. Still no rounds under par since the fuuuckery occurred. Yo Money! I'm getting there lots more over par rounds this week. Even on a course I made which I consider easy on the Xbox. Beginning to think Xbox1 may really be broken with 2k21. Every day the game plays differently. Zero Stars! |
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Post by dansamp on May 26, 2021 14:53:32 GMT -5
I have been collecting screen shots when I hit perfect as I am interested in seeing how many points I actually do hit on the wheel. I can say for a fact that I have at least 2 pics that are 'perfect' - one is just left of dead center, the other is just right of center - I can only assume that dead center is also a point, I just haven't gotten a snip of it yet - and yes, I am on Master.. Oh, and this is with the Bridgestone 'Purple' 295 yard club.. Because of the odd number (125hz) on the XB polling rate, your typical polling points will get rounded to either side, on occasion, if the calculation occurs in that small window of timing. Please don't ask me to explain as I get a little lost in the technical details of all of this, but based on how its been explained to me and the results I've seen it makes sense. I think you will find you have one "perfect" spot that you hit about 80-90% of the time, and two separate points on either side of that that will be hit about 10-20% of the time. For me that brings my left edge perfect to a grey fast sometimes (more than just the shrinkage of the perfect window) or a dead nuts perfect. Same thing with fast and slows. Happens very rarely but I will occasionally even get my red slow polling point to shift to a grey slow. I think that's only on my forgiving wedges though. That is the only time I am ever able to get grey slow on a normal full shot, my perfect polling point never shifts far enough right (even on severe shot shaping with my 294 driver) to get a grey slow. There could be a discussion for us XB folk as to which calibration point may be the most beneficial... I have kept my perfect calibration on the left edge of perfect because I think that its more beneficial to hit a grey fast than a grey slow when you get the odd mistiming of the polling rates. The negative side to it is that my Red Fast is more severe than me Red Slow (~10yds) and I miss more on the fast side than slow side. I've been trying to weigh out if it would be any more beneficial to have a "dead nuts" perfect calibration to make both Red misses "equal", but worry that it would bring in the potential for grey Fast and Slow misses when the polling skips a beat. Not sure if having a "dead nuts" perfect that is soooo in the middle might actually take away the grey fast and slow entirely? Making it so both the randomly timed polling points are in the perfect as well? Somebody down south get cseanny an XB so we can find out! This is almost absolutely correct, as to how I understand it. It's actually because the controller is technically at 124hz, instead of 125hz, so that 1hz difference results in a different swing 1/65 times. I too will see the odd different result around my typical polling points, but they are just that - odd, rare, and few and far between (and if you tallied it up, it would probably be exactly 1/65, I reckon). zzfr33b1rdzz I think this is what you're witnessing, I doubt you have multiple distinct polling points within the perfect window, like a PS4 player might, for example, that you could discreetly hit as you were lining up for your shot. As for which calibration is best... I don't know. I've been tinkering around too. I played with the left edge perfect for the last week or so, but now I've switched back to the right edge perfect. The annoying thing about the left edge perfect, is it turns a lot of my partial pitches into red fasts, when I think it should actually be a perfect, or at least a grey fast if my perfect was on the right edge (remember, it moves the perfect point left because it's a partial). This bothers me on chips too, so I've switched to the right edge, where it seems the partials are registering as either perfects or grey fasts for the most part. I've tied it to this lately more than the complete miss red slow or red fast... because tbh I don't really care if one is 10 yards shorter or longer, they both suck! |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 15:03:34 GMT -5
If I'm understanding you guys right does this mean my repeatable grey fast on partial pitches is basically because I'm hitting a perfect for me but those partials move the point over?
I've never really messed about with calibration too much but my usual perfect is on the right half with the odd one dead centre. Maybe once or twice a round.
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Post by dansamp on May 26, 2021 15:16:08 GMT -5
If I'm understanding you guys right does this mean my repeatable grey fast on partial pitches is basically because I'm hitting a perfect for me but those partials move the point over? I've never really messed about with calibration too much but my usual perfect is on the right half with the odd one dead centre. Maybe once or twice a round. Yes I believe so. You're hitting your perfect swing tempo there, and it's registering as a grey fast. |
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Post by jp44 on May 26, 2021 15:36:56 GMT -5
As for which calibration is best... I don't know. I've been tinkering around too. I played with the left edge perfect for the last week or so, but now I've switched back to the right edge perfect. The annoying thing about the left edge perfect, is it turns a lot of my partial pitches into red fasts, when I think it should actually be a perfect, or at least a grey fast if my perfect was on the right edge (remember, it moves the perfect point left because it's a partial). This bothers me on chips too, so I've switched to the right edge, where it seems the partials are registering as either perfects or grey fasts for the most part. I've tied it to this lately more than the complete miss red slow or red fast... because tbh I don't really care if one is 10 yards shorter or longer, they both suck! Very good point with the partial pitches. Although I have to admit the polling points have been EXTREMELY odd on partial pitches recently. Not sure how to explain it other odd... May not be paying close enough attention but it feels like I can poll almost anywhere once I pull the intent marker back. Have not gone through to test/confirm though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 18:07:38 GMT -5
As for which calibration is best... I don't know. I've been tinkering around too. I played with the left edge perfect for the last week or so, but now I've switched back to the right edge perfect. The annoying thing about the left edge perfect, is it turns a lot of my partial pitches into red fasts, when I think it should actually be a perfect, or at least a grey fast if my perfect was on the right edge (remember, it moves the perfect point left because it's a partial). This bothers me on chips too, so I've switched to the right edge, where it seems the partials are registering as either perfects or grey fasts for the most part. I've tied it to this lately more than the complete miss red slow or red fast... because tbh I don't really care if one is 10 yards shorter or longer, they both suck! Very good point with the partial pitches. Although I have to admit the polling points have been EXTREMELY odd on partial pitches recently. Not sure how to explain it other odd... May not be paying close enough attention but it feels like I can poll almost anywhere once I pull the intent marker back. Have not gone through to test/confirm though. I would echo this. Last few days I've been playing loads of really short pitches and it does feel like you say. I've had a few perfects, a lot of very slight Grey fasts, bang in the middle Grey's, Reds. Feels like it's the only shot type where there is such a variance in that. Btw I Find it really interesting reading you guys and Cseanny talk about this stuff. I'm not tech-savvy at all but everything I've read you all say the last few weeks matches up with what I've felt since release. I've always told people in the societies I played in not to bother with forgiveness because you simply can't hit in that area on master. Pretty much seems like you guys explain the why behind that. On certain calibrations at least. |
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Post by fsu831 on May 26, 2021 20:26:54 GMT -5
I have been collecting screen shots when I hit perfect as I am interested in seeing how many points I actually do hit on the wheel. I can say for a fact that I have at least 2 pics that are 'perfect' - one is just left of dead center, the other is just right of center - I can only assume that dead center is also a point, I just haven't gotten a snip of it yet - and yes, I am on Master.. Oh, and this is with the Bridgestone 'Purple' 295 yard club.. Because of the odd number (125hz) on the XB polling rate, your typical polling points will get rounded to either side, on occasion, if the calculation occurs in that small window of timing. Please don't ask me to explain as I get a little lost in the technical details of all of this, but based on how its been explained to me and the results I've seen it makes sense. I think you will find you have one "perfect" spot that you hit about 80-90% of the time, and two separate points on either side of that that will be hit about 10-20% of the time. For me that brings my left edge perfect to a grey fast sometimes (more than just the shrinkage of the perfect window) or a dead nuts perfect. Same thing with fast and slows. Happens very rarely but I will occasionally even get my red slow polling point to shift to a grey slow. I think that's only on my forgiving wedges though. That is the only time I am ever able to get grey slow on a normal full shot, my perfect polling point never shifts far enough right (even on severe shot shaping with my 294 driver) to get a grey slow. There could be a discussion for us XB folk as to which calibration point may be the most beneficial... I have kept my perfect calibration on the left edge of perfect because I think that its more beneficial to hit a grey fast than a grey slow when you get the odd mistiming of the polling rates. The negative side to it is that my Red Fast is more severe than me Red Slow (~10yds) and I miss more on the fast side than slow side. I've been trying to weigh out if it would be any more beneficial to have a "dead nuts" perfect calibration to make both Red misses "equal", but worry that it would bring in the potential for grey Fast and Slow misses when the polling skips a beat. Not sure if having a "dead nuts" perfect that is soooo in the middle might actually take away the grey fast and slow entirely? Making it so both the randomly timed polling points are in the perfect as well? Somebody down south get cseanny an XB so we can find out! What the f&@& did you just say??? 🤣 |
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Post by rhino4life on May 26, 2021 22:46:34 GMT -5
For me I have my calibration dialed at dead nuts. If I hit this spot and choose the correct club per the conditions then I am giving myself at least a chance to score on the hole. Personally this is what I feel the most comfortable with. I do get the 1/65ish grey fast or slow. My misses/rounded points are red fast/red slow and if I honest with myself some of this is me doing it, not HB.
My 2 pennies is there is zero substitution for the perfect. If you are getting higher % of fast results with your natural swing I believe you can manipulate the calibration to change this in your favor to a higher % of perfect. I have done what cseanny posted above because I needed to rotate my perfect swing back into the perfect zone. It takes time and if you invest some time in it you can give yourself a fighting chance to play a respectable round. Now you need to be realistic with yourself and know that you will not get this "perfect" every time you swing, every round you play. Its just not in the cards for us. You probably will have a round where things just are off and you hardly get any perfects and you throw your hands up in disgust. But you will also get rounds where whatever effort you put into dialing in your shot pays off, even if its just a little bit.
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Post by blueblood1995 on May 26, 2021 22:59:18 GMT -5
I have been collecting screen shots when I hit perfect as I am interested in seeing how many points I actually do hit on the wheel. I can say for a fact that I have at least 2 pics that are 'perfect' - one is just left of dead center, the other is just right of center - I can only assume that dead center is also a point, I just haven't gotten a snip of it yet - and yes, I am on Master.. Oh, and this is with the Bridgestone 'Purple' 295 yard club.. There could be a discussion for us XB folk as to which calibration point may be the most beneficial... I have kept my perfect calibration on the left edge of perfect because I think that its more beneficial to hit a grey fast than a grey slow when you get the odd mistiming of the polling rates. The negative side to it is that my Red Fast is more severe than me Red Slow (~10yds) and I miss more on the fast side than slow side. I've been trying to weigh out if it would be any more beneficial to have a "dead nuts" perfect calibration to make both Red misses "equal", but worry that it would bring in the potential for grey Fast and Slow misses when the polling skips a beat. Exactly what I had until I decided to recalibrate yesterday after 3 months. Now I wish I hadn't! |
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Post by blueblood1995 on May 26, 2021 23:00:13 GMT -5
I think the only answer might be to buy a PS5! Time to sell out and head over to the "dark side"?
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Post by PollingPoints on May 27, 2021 0:30:33 GMT -5
I think the only answer might be to buy a PS5! Time to sell out and head over to the "dark side"? Join me. It's lonely over here. |
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Post by liebs44 on May 27, 2021 9:00:37 GMT -5
I think a lot of you guys talking about points is interesting but I don't get it. I'm more of a visual learner and would love to see how you guys swing. I'm a CC-K player so any round close to E is like shooting a 63 for most people. I am decent off the tee - I've figured out that if I slow my swing down just enough at the apex and a slow downswing I can get close to perfect's but never with any consistency. Where I'm really losing strokes is with my irons - I've never been a red fast player - I can't use the same technique with my irons as I do with my driver and I end up with red slows and red fasts.
The fun in the game is starting to dwindle for me. Like I said I've never been competitive in any tourney but the thrill of what could be keeps me coming back week after week. I don't play the PGA Tour career - maybe I should I don't know. Looking for some friendly advice on where to go from here.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 12:30:08 GMT -5
I think a lot of you guys talking about points is interesting but I don't get it. I'm more of a visual learner and would love to see how you guys swing. I'm a CC-K player so any round close to E is like shooting a 63 for most people. I am decent off the tee - I've figured out that if I slow my swing down just enough at the apex and a slow downswing I can get close to perfect's but never with any consistency. Where I'm really losing strokes is with my irons - I've never been a red fast player - I can't use the same technique with my irons as I do with my driver and I end up with red slows and red fasts. The fun in the game is starting to dwindle for me. Like I said I've never been competitive in any tourney but the thrill of what could be keeps me coming back week after week. I don't play the PGA Tour career - maybe I should I don't know. Looking for some friendly advice on where to go from here. It's so hard to put into words how to hit perfects as daft as it sounds. I just kind of know what works for me. The two biggest things I would say impact it (and this is all just from my experience it could be nonsense) is the speed of your backswing and downswing being similar, and the transition being smooth. The second one is the big one for me. When I'm really struggling with tempo I focus on my golfers hands at the top of every backswing and kind of have a feel for when that's finished and start the downswing, if that makes sense. Dunno if that matches up with what others think or do but focusing on that transition works well for me. Good luck! |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 13:22:14 GMT -5
Just a quick heads up.
If any of you guys are interested in trying out some golf without grids, Barefoot Golfers has a new season starting today. It's run by Reborn Toaster and this season he's mixing it up a little by keeping scout cam on but green and lie grids off. Might be a nice happy medium to test the water. He picks great courses and we have a good bunch of guys in there, admittedly less since the update but still a full leaderboard most days.
And, not a new season, but Simulation Sanctuary is another non-grid society to try out. Longpoleshallow runs this one and it's no scout cam and no grids (and I think he has the aim marker locked as disabled). He's been alternating between pro and master swing difficulty the last few days to see how things go post-update.
Just a thought if you guys find the time or want to try out playing with the green grids disabled. Takes a little getting used to but isn't as hard as you might think and if you do try it out I'd suggest playing with a ghost to get a heads up on the lines on the greens until you're more comfortable. Broad range of scores too with the people that already play.
Cheers!
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