bob5453
Caddy
Posts: 24 
TGCT Name: Bob Roberts
Tour: BCT
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Post by bob5453 on Mar 26, 2015 22:36:11 GMT -5
Registered and withdrew last week and also in next weeks tourneys as I don't enjoy playing fast greens. I usually don't practice the course or make the cuts, the score I shoot is not that important to me, but I want to enjoy the rounds I do play and fast greens are no fun for me.
One problem is I check out the tourney page and look at the course scheduled and it says medium speed, but the courses are now fast, so it makes it hard to register and know what the settings are going to be.
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GoldEaglex12
Weekend Golfer
Posts: 78
TGCT Name: Kyle Robertson
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Post by GoldEaglex12 on Mar 26, 2015 22:56:00 GMT -5
I'm all for the tougher courses personally. Having said that, that doesn't mean courses always have to be firm/fast. Courses can be challenging in other ways. I do agree however, that a course that was not designed for firm/fast conditions shouldn't just be republished under those conditions. Courses that play firm/fast have to be designed in a way that fits those conditions. Same goes for courses that have other challenging aspects. They have to be designed in a way that suits the particular challenges they present. For example, a firm/fast course shouldn't have a 200+ yard approach shot to a green that's only 10 yards front to back. You would never be able to hold the green. Challenging courses are a huge positive for me. I love the thought process and precision that is required to score well on them. A lot of courses we've played so far can be played on full auto-pilot mode, and that gets a bit repetitive and very easy. Each person has their own preferences, and there's no way to please everyone. I personally hope we can find a balance between fun/challenge/competitiveness, but even if we do see really low scores like -60 or so most of the time, then so be it. This already is an awesome community, and that's enough for me to keep playing  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 23:00:50 GMT -5
Let me be more clear - I don't want all aids removed. I would be fine with scout cam being removed, for example. I guess my point is this...I earned an exemption to a pro tourney. I chose to play Shakespeare on the Euro this coming week because I like the course so much. However, the designer/admin decided to toughen up the course for pro play. I know that I am so busy with work this week that I will have almost no time to learn these new set ups. Rather than b%&ing about it, I just have to realize that those whom are able to practice will outplay me this week. And deservedly so. You talk about lessening the "gap" and I agree that is good for the health of TGCT. I just think that for us middling players the only way to close that gap is to put in more practice than the next guy. Larry Bird was no superior athlete but he lived in the gym and took more jumpers in one evening than most practiced in a week. If I, or others, don't have that much time to practice then I belong in the Web or Champions tour and I'm okay with that. No amount of course or aids manipulation is going to close the gap between me and Doyley for example. steelereign, In actuality I'm not for artificially reducing the gap, I'm just throwing things out there for those that do. I play in the Champ A tour and really don't spend a whole lot of time honing my craft. I'm perfectly happy making some cash and designing courses. I like to design and help test other designers work and give feedback to those that want it. My actual stance on scores is it doesn't matter how low they go, it only matters how low mine goes. My issue is never that a player might score very low, my issue is always getting mine as low as theirs. Shoot "turn it up to eleven" if you want. And I agree completely, no amount of aids and such will help that gap, it will only change the base numbers but the gap will remain the same unless a player puts the work in. I've pretty much run out of ideas on this one so we will see where we go from here. -Mike |
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Post by joneskidmarks on Mar 28, 2015 10:35:17 GMT -5
The firmness of the greens is just crazy. You can't get anything to land and stop on the green from outside 150y. You have to land it somewhere in front of the green, and hope for the right bump. This was fine at Belmont, as the greens and its pin positions where designed to allow that. But for example @shakespeare next week, where and "old" course was adopted to fulfill the "new" requirements, this might become a (big) problem. Just my 2 cents... In today's twitch they mentioned that they are looking at changing the firmness dial to be dynamic instead it rounding to 1 of 3 settings. This will be a huge fix for our designers as they can dial in the firmness on the greens (which should be separate from the fairways at some point). We'll be able to have many different styles of courses once this becomes reality. Very excited for that fix - hopefully it sneaks into the May update. This is great news. Being able to set both FW firmness & green firmness separately is much needed! |
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Post by clayg3 on Mar 29, 2015 13:56:38 GMT -5
take away the loft
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cajungolf
Weekend Golfer
Posts: 97
TGCT Name: Jamie Holford
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Post by cajungolf on Mar 29, 2015 16:51:24 GMT -5
I know there was quite a few greens in hte 3rd,5th, and 6th round of hte Q School that could be touched up a tad....... Lip the cup and roll 40 yards off the green.... got aggrivating and nearly raged a couple. My handicap before Qschool was 0.6 ..........after Q School....2.6 lol
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Post by clayg3 on Apr 3, 2015 20:26:30 GMT -5
if ya take the loft away your going to be inbetween clubs
you will have to go long or lay up wouldn't that add a few
strokes.
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Post by bentfivewood on Apr 3, 2015 21:04:27 GMT -5
This is actually a really good point. There is far less ability for precision lofting/delofting in real golf. Guys are still largely able to dial a distance by the slight adjustments to loft. When I'm on the links, if I hit a ball 120 yds away from the pin, I'm usually pretty miffed because I know I'd be better off hitting my PW with a full swing from 130 than trying to adjust my loft or power from a shorter distance. For the courses I know well, I put the ball where I need to to eliminate the need for minor adjustments because they have quite varied results. Granted, pros are better at those minor adjustments but they aren't as good as one can be in tgc. If the lofting was made less precise, kind of in the way the putting is, you'd see a lot less dialing in and higher scores overall. |
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Post by clayg3 on Apr 3, 2015 21:21:18 GMT -5
I think the no loft would really work what if you have a 126yd to the hole
your clubs are 9 iron 132yds or a pw 120 yds what do ya do.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 3, 2015 21:33:21 GMT -5
Depends on many factors. I'm equally as likely to loft a 9iron as to deloft a PW. Depends on how much spin I want on the ball.
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Post by clayg3 on Apr 3, 2015 21:42:10 GMT -5
take away loft and deloft
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Post by SloanerTW on Apr 3, 2015 22:26:09 GMT -5
Maybe instead of taking away loft and deloft cause that would make no sense at all just take away the box lines.
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Post by mcbogga on Apr 4, 2015 1:40:39 GMT -5
No need to take it away - just a higher cone penalty for going more than one box or so.
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Post by clayg3 on Apr 4, 2015 12:54:04 GMT -5
every one wants this game to be like the way the pros play
but no one wants to give any thing new a try. the pros cant
loft and deloft there either long or short they hit the shot
easy for pitch shots or full contact.
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Post by acidflashback on Apr 4, 2015 17:17:16 GMT -5
every one wants this game to be like the way the pros play but no one wants to give any thing new a try. the pros cant loft and deloft there either long or short they hit the shot easy for pitch shots or full contact. Anyone can deloft or loft a club in real life. The pros do, no doubt. Play the ball further back in the stance to deloft and vice versa.
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