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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 31, 2020 11:54:01 GMT -5
If the point of this tour is to be a replacement to the BCT... doesn’t having a bunch of meters off kind of defeat the purpose? I’m not sure that is the clear purpose. ?? . |
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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 31, 2020 15:32:04 GMT -5
It does seem overwhelmingly in favor of Pro in the voting.
Unless there is an Electoral College
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Post by boffo on Aug 31, 2020 16:53:28 GMT -5
It does seem overwhelmingly in favor of Pro in the voting. Unless there is an Electoral College Head ranger and BCT alum vote counts as 500 votes. I picked ProAm. |
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Post by Doyley on Aug 31, 2020 17:04:48 GMT -5
So how often will Q school be played every week, once a month, twice a year so if some of us don’t qualify for the lowest CC tour how long do we have to wait before we can try again. Weekly - so if you don't get in you can try again the following week. No limit to how many attempts either. |
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Post by Davidius74 on Sept 2, 2020 19:43:14 GMT -5
Glad this discussion is on the table. I'd like to see pro level with some aids on and others off. All the pro vision stuff off, green and lie grids on and wind speed on. Everything else off.
I knew it may mean some extra work but having maybe 3 divisions with promotion/relegation and seperate ranking system would be good too because 500+ members (who knows how many light play) all fighting for one division is more than any real life golf tournament would have and give those competing a chance of finishing higher up instead of losing by only 4 shots and finishing outside top 100.
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Post by bahnzo on Sept 3, 2020 2:26:13 GMT -5
If there is no difference (as HB states) in the clubs and the only difference is the accuracy windows on both swing plane and timing, then I don't get why not have the main tours on the Masters setting, and the Challenge tours on the Pro setting? If you are good enough to advance out of the Challenge tour and into the Pro tours, then you have exactly zero difference in your game other than you are then going to be punished more for a poor swing.
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Post by tgbjackrussell on Sept 4, 2020 12:51:34 GMT -5
I think Pro with meters on is fine. This is still a beginners tour. My main concern when bringing this issue up originally was a middle ground. Pro-Am is too easy, Pro is the default online setting. I think wind meter without numbers, distance meters, no putt preview, is pretty good middle ground between Pro-Am cheese and Q-School mainstays.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 4, 2020 20:45:26 GMT -5
If there is no difference (as HB states) in the clubs and the only difference is the accuracy windows on both swing plane and timing, then I don't get why not have the main tours on the Masters setting, and the Challenge tours on the Pro setting? If you are good enough to advance out of the Challenge tour and into the Pro tours, then you have exactly zero difference in your game other than you are then going to be punished more for a poor swing. Some CC-A players sandbagged to get around this in TGC2019. Same would happen again... Keeping that tier not as balanced as it could/should have been. |
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Post by bahnzo on Sept 5, 2020 0:56:49 GMT -5
If there is no difference (as HB states) in the clubs and the only difference is the accuracy windows on both swing plane and timing, then I don't get why not have the main tours on the Masters setting, and the Challenge tours on the Pro setting? If you are good enough to advance out of the Challenge tour and into the Pro tours, then you have exactly zero difference in your game other than you are then going to be punished more for a poor swing. Some CC-A players sandbagged to get around this in TGC2019. Same would happen again... Keeping that tier not as balanced as it could/should have been. I'm always reluctant to allow a few bad apples to dictate policy to the rest of us. I think we keep forgetting here this is supposed to be a game which is fun. |
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 5, 2020 1:02:49 GMT -5
Some CC-A players sandbagged to get around this in TGC2019. Same would happen again... Keeping that tier not as balanced as it could/should have been. I'm always reluctant to allow a few bad apples to dictate policy to the rest of us. I think we keep forgetting here this is supposed to be a game which is fun. The reality is that this is one portion of the reason why Admin chose to go with a universal swing, and also there is a shift going into season 7 to have this be a more competitive tour for those that choose to play in the tiered tour format.
They have tried the more all-encompassing format in the past and have decided to move away from that outside of the Pro (Am?) Tour. The game itself offers almost unlimited options to make it fun, but TGCT has to find a point to put a stake in the ground and they have chosen it.
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Post by prats on Sept 6, 2020 15:12:19 GMT -5
I am new to this page, a friend of mine told me, the only thing I do not understand is the difficulty, I do not see well that it is forced to a difficulty that is crazy, I play in favor with the swing time activated, and with the meters activated, playing like this this game is already very difficult, in master without distance meters it is not worth playing this game, I do not enjoy that way, I am playing for a while that it is crazy to gain control of swing, I hope there are different categories to be able to play tournaments here, I vote to play pro but with distance meters, otherwise I don't play
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Post by buckster8561 on Sept 8, 2020 13:43:55 GMT -5
I stink at pro but pro am is too easy , so I guess pro , just don’t want to see a bunch of unrealistic scores where you know you can’t reach to save your life .
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Post by pillowofsoft on Sept 11, 2020 7:40:56 GMT -5
I voted pro originally but I now think pro am is the way to go.
If this is meant to be a friendly more chilled social tour then the clubs should be welcoming to all. For me there is a bigger jump in difficulty from pro am to pro than pro to master and I worry that pro level might exclude less experienced people
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Post by parbuster1962 on Sept 11, 2020 8:11:16 GMT -5
If you are going with Pro Difficulty you need to change the name of the Tour. "Pro Am" implies that we are playing at pro-am difficulty. I started playing in the Exhibition event thinking it was as the name implied "pro-am" and after a few holes realized something was wrong with the settings.
I didn't bother completing the round.
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Post by parbuster1962 on Sept 11, 2020 8:17:01 GMT -5
I stink at pro but pro am is too easy , so I guess pro , just don’t want to see a bunch of unrealistic scores where you know you can’t reach to save your life . There are societies out there that play what I call "Pro Am Plus". They play Pro Am difficulty settings but they change the course settings to be more difficult that the "default". There is more to this game than just swing difficulty, once you have mastered the "perfect swing" you are merely throwing darts at the pins when course conditions are left at the easy end of the scale. Try out "Global Golf Tour" we play "Pro Am plus" and the scores are anything but low and the conditions are tough. Try hitting a narrow fairway with a 25 mph cross wind unless you know how to counteract the wind with a slight fade or draw |
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