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Post by donkeypuncherben on Aug 27, 2020 0:14:37 GMT -5
I play everything fast. Driver and 3w pretty fast (not close to perfect tempo) and take the risk of an occasional VF but never risking a slow, also everything with those clubs is gripped and ripped at 101% if not higher combined with a push to the right in my swing line because I find that more controllable.
I play approaches much closer to perfect tempo but still on the fast side because I can be more consistent with that. For approaches I adjust to whatever my feel is that day
Was wondering about the API with this, it's a nice shot to play but if the same API restraints are present I didn't want to get in the habit of it, then learn something new. I say let it play, but if the API is there I hope it's for all Tours. Seeing people come from Euro to PGA then API'ed or having to adjust as they progressed was an issue... I assume there won't be such an API check unless there is evidence that fast swings or push / pull swings have less dispersion that perfect / straight swings as there was in the last game. It haven't done any specific testing but they feel inconsistent, I just like that the two misses offset each other. The push pull API was reluctantly added in the first place because the site admins thought it was necessary due to specific flaws in the TGC 2019 game mechanics
Golf is not, and never has been, a game of hitting the ball perfectly straight,it is a game of trying to find something repeatable and trying to manage your misses. To those who say it 'feels wrong', playing for a constant fade or draw is much more common in real professional golf than playing for perfectly straight shots. I think your feelings are probably overly influenced by years of playing less sophisticated golf video games. If working with your natural tendencies for swing path and tempo instead of fighting yourself to get as straight as possible feels wrong, you do you and I'll do me. In the end you will probably build a muscle memory that gives you an advantage over time and I will have to adjust and catch up, and there will be rounds where the wind is blowing left and the fairway is sloping left and I will have to deal with having no way to hit a good shot with my chosen swing.
To me, hitting splash shots off the fairway or chip shots from a bunker feels much more wrong but I expect everyone to do it until the tours make a policy against it or the developers change the mechanics of those swings to dis-incentivize it.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Aug 27, 2020 0:28:41 GMT -5
Was wondering about the API with this, it's a nice shot to play but if the same API restraints are present I didn't want to get in the habit of it, then learn something new. I say let it play, but if the API is there I hope it's for all Tours. Seeing people come from Euro to PGA then API'ed or having to adjust as they progressed was an issue... I assume there won't be such and API unless there is evidence that fast swings or push / pull swings have less dispersion that perfect / straight swings.
Only thing I will say to someone who says it feels wrong is that playing for a constant fade or draw is much more common in real professional golf than playing for perfectly straight shots. Golf is not, and never has been, a game of hitting the ball perfectly straight,it is a game of trying to find something repeatable and trying to manage your misses.
To anyone claiming that working with your natural tendencies for swing path and tempo instead of fighting yourself to get as straight as possible feels wrong, you do you and I'll do me. To me, hitting splash shots off the fairway or chip shots from a bunker feels much more wrong but I expect everyone to do it until the tours make a policy against it to the developers change the echanics of those swings to dis-incentivize it.
Splash shots should be non fairway, non-fringe, and non-green shots. I don't think that is rocket science. This is why when I see certain stances that quote the developers of the game saying "it is working as intended" I just shake my head. It is working as intended on their flawed view. No one would hit that kind of shot from tight lies such as that. A splash shot would be a sand/heavy rough type of thing and it should be only available from those kind of lies, IMO.
But everything becomes do as everyone else does unfortunately.
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Post by xvshitanvx on Aug 27, 2020 1:30:41 GMT -5
The shortest distance a flop shot goes is also ~40yds which is a joke.
I would use a flop shot from the fairway if I was short-sided irl. I don’t see that splash shot as any different to a flop (the technique for a flop and sand shot are pretty much identical irl, only difference is where you hit the ground).
You can’t hit a range of shots around the green you would irl so I think you should be free to use the tools you’re provided...
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Post by proteus12 on Aug 27, 2020 2:07:48 GMT -5
Just shot 58 in round 2-so much for realistic scores! Not sure whether to be happy with myself or disappointed with the game!
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Post by rcknfrewld on Aug 27, 2020 2:09:33 GMT -5
Please block me and refrain from replying to my posts. Thank you. If you haven't done so on your end, I would highly suggest this. Has improved the experience I have here at TGCT. This speaks more about you than me Bob and Justin. And rob with your liking of all their comments like a little puppy or something barking at the mailman safely from inside the house.
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Post by watson17 on Aug 27, 2020 3:52:24 GMT -5
Did I read the Devs say over on the HB forum that if distance control and haptic feedback was off it was basically impossible to get perfect tempo on partial shots? Or did I just make that up?
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Post by hippystein on Aug 27, 2020 4:29:52 GMT -5
Love the game so far. Think it ticks a lot of boxes. Have only played 8 rounds with masters and that has been on the practice events. Mainly been playing masters settings with pro swing difficulty(1.8) on the multiplier. when playing local matches none of my friends have any interest in playing masters swing. All of which are old pga players. My scoring is up and down but having read thru this thread. It looks like a lot of you are using the choppers clubs. Ive been using purple clubs with very little forgiveness on the and find the game plays great. If you hit it slightly off you know about it and if your way off you really know about it. Went on the range and swapped to the std clubs your first given when game starts and perfect with masters is easy to hit. Ok you sacrifice distance but the window for mistakes is much bigger. Plus i finally think ive figured the calibration thing out. I havent got a problem going onto the tour using masters ill just have to fine tune my setup and i can see the scores shooting down now ive figured this out. What clubs are alot of you using on the masters settings. Be interested to see. You can get i forgiving driver that goes 280+ so thatll work then its just a case of tweaking the gapping with a variety of different irons and wedges i think. Also distance control is massive the higher it is the less your mishit is affected ive noticed. I havent unlocked all the clubs yet but some seem a lot more forgiving than others. My lowest round to date is -8 using the masters and i left a load of putts inches short but i can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. Hopefully its a game changer. Good luck all for the upcoming season and keep enjoying the game. Its nice to have a game that plays this good
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 27, 2020 4:31:34 GMT -5
Please block me and refrain from replying to my posts. Thank you. If you haven't done so on your end, I would highly suggest this. Has improved the experience I have here at TGCT. Is this even possible? Didn’t realise we could block people.
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Post by rcknfrewld on Aug 27, 2020 4:43:11 GMT -5
If you haven't done so on your end, I would highly suggest this. Has improved the experience I have here at TGCT. Is this even possible? Didn’t realise we could block people. Is this even possible? Didn’t realize you didn’t know something.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Aug 27, 2020 5:04:12 GMT -5
If you haven't done so on your end, I would highly suggest this. Has improved the experience I have here at TGCT. Is this even possible? Didn’t realise we could block people. If you are being serious, then yes.
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 27, 2020 8:05:05 GMT -5
Is this even possible? Didn’t realise we could block people. Is this even possible? Didn’t realize you didn’t know something. No point pretending to know about something that I know nothing about, Janice. I don't understand why anyone would do that.
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 27, 2020 8:19:51 GMT -5
Is this even possible? Didn’t realise we could block people. If you are being serious, then yes. Every day is a school day, Bob!
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Post by matthew_titots on Aug 27, 2020 11:10:58 GMT -5
The shortest distance a flop shot goes is also ~40yds which is a joke. I would use a flop shot from the fairway if I was short-sided irl. I don’t see that splash shot as any different to a flop (the technique for a flop and sand shot are pretty much identical irl, only difference is where you hit the ground). You can’t hit a range of shots around the green you would irl so I think you should be free to use the tools you’re provided... 100000%. Just because it's improperly named a 'Splash' shot doesn't mean that it doesn't accurately depict a realistic shot, in terms of trajectory or strategy. The shortest flop defaulting to 40 yards is a huge joke. I use the splash like a flop shot, which is what it was called in the old versions.
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Post by BillySastard976 on Aug 27, 2020 12:27:49 GMT -5
Those xbox users claiming that it’s still way easier on ps4 won’t know what to say about this one 😂 Not difficult to know what to say. Great job on that score - it's very impressive for sure. Still 20+ shots away from competing with top scores on PS4 though I really REALLY hope it is just my inadequacies and the game is fair. Proof will be after Q-school obviously. The scores you are shooting and the -43 from Tyler...I don't think all of my 50+ rounds so far could add up to that. I should have been about -10 on this tournament if I hadn't take a tin-cup Quad on one hole. I would have been thrilled with that score...and still 33 shots away from Tyler. My main point is it doesn't feel fair so far. But again, I hope I am wrong about that. One day we might log in here and be greeted with a thread named ' Xbox Update! ' Ok, I'm just being silly. I managed two rounds of +2 in the second event. I haven't mapped clubs, practiced chips, I hate the putting though I don't find it difficult, haven't practiced it - why? Because tempo is vital and it's messed up on Xbox again! In fact I think the tempo is slightly better in this game than the last, which believe me isn't saying much, but nevertheless it is making the game on Xbox a pain. Sick of HB ignoring this. There is little motivation to put the work in and practice for me - we are playing a different bloody game! I would have no problem being an also ran if I had the chance to try, really give it a go but Xbox players are hamstrung.
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 27, 2020 13:23:08 GMT -5
Not difficult to know what to say. Great job on that score - it's very impressive for sure. Still 20+ shots away from competing with top scores on PS4 though I really REALLY hope it is just my inadequacies and the game is fair. Proof will be after Q-school obviously. The scores you are shooting and the -43 from Tyler...I don't think all of my 50+ rounds so far could add up to that. I should have been about -10 on this tournament if I hadn't take a tin-cup Quad on one hole. I would have been thrilled with that score...and still 33 shots away from Tyler. My main point is it doesn't feel fair so far. But again, I hope I am wrong about that. One day we might log in here and be greeted with a thread named ' Xbox Update! ' Ok, I'm just being silly. I managed two rounds of +2 in the second event. I haven't mapped clubs, practiced chips, I hate the putting though I don't find it difficult, haven't practiced it - why? Because tempo is vital and it's messed up on Xbox again! In fact I think the tempo is slightly better in this game than the last, which believe me isn't saying much, but nevertheless it is making the game on Xbox a pain. Sick of HB ignoring this. There is little motivation to put the work in and practice for me - we are playing a different bloody game! I would have no problem being an also ran if I had the chance to try, really give it a go but Xbox players are hamstrung. Have I complained directly to 2k about XB tempo, me?
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