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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 13:21:05 GMT -5
I would say I made 25 % chip ins from 4 - 12 yds. I don't think thats uncommon. But the simple fact you have (30-40) 4-12 yard chip shots in 72 holes is outrageous....and indicative of how unreceptive the greens are from virtually any distance. Again, tip of the hat to the folks scoring 7-11 under consistently on these courses. I would love to see how it's done. I'm just baffled trying to determine where to land the ball on approach shots here. As I mentioned earlier, most of the holes do not allow for that shot either with all the excessive undulations in front of the greens. As someone who will have his best finish ever this week It was 95% luck Firm/fast rewards lucky bounces more than skill in my opinion. It doesn't resemble golf but does a good job of scoring control
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Post by joneskidmarks on Mar 26, 2015 13:31:44 GMT -5
But the simple fact you have (30-40) 4-12 yard chip shots in 72 holes is outrageous....and indicative of how unreceptive the greens are from virtually any distance. Again, tip of the hat to the folks scoring 7-11 under consistently on these courses. I would love to see how it's done. I'm just baffled trying to determine where to land the ball on approach shots here. As I mentioned earlier, most of the holes do not allow for that shot either with all the excessive undulations in front of the greens. As someone who will have his best finish ever this week It was 95% luck Firm/fast rewards lucky bounces more than skill in my opinion. It doesn't resemble golf but does a good job of scoring control That is true. I sure hope we can find a better way to control the scoring though. I don't like to get that mad when playing a video game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 15:28:06 GMT -5
But the simple fact you have (30-40) 4-12 yard chip shots in 72 holes is outrageous....and indicative of how unreceptive the greens are from virtually any distance. Again, tip of the hat to the folks scoring 7-11 under consistently on these courses. I would love to see how it's done. I'm just baffled trying to determine where to land the ball on approach shots here. As I mentioned earlier, most of the holes do not allow for that shot either with all the excessive undulations in front of the greens. As someone who will have his best finish ever this week It was 95% luck Firm/fast rewards lucky bounces more than skill in my opinion. It doesn't resemble golf but does a good job of scoring control 100% agreement. My first 2 rounds were enough to put me in the top 10. My last 2 rounds were terrible. It was all the luck of the bounce. I actually had BETTER wind conditions in my 2nd rounds, but got terrible bounces. These conditions are stupid.
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Post by seamount4life on Mar 26, 2015 21:54:08 GMT -5
Anyone else having a hard time connecting on PS4? I'm trying to play my 2 rounds tonight but I haven't been able to connect to the Tournament for over 15 mins.
EDIT - Finally connected! time to play 2 and hope to make the cut!
Edit #2 - Well I was promptly greeted with 15mph winds and shot a +1, +2 for a +3 total
I will say that this was one of the worst courses I have ever played on this tour. the greens were impossible and horribly designed with how fast they were. it was artificially hard for no reason. I would barely miss putts and they would roll by the hole 10-12 ft. I would land 10 yds in front of the green then promptly roll all the way through off the back of the green, Then my chip coming back would be impossible to keep close to the hole due to the tiering of the greens. There was one chip that I hit half as hard as I thought I should, it BARELY got to the top of the break then it rolled past the hold 15ft and off the green.
onto next week.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Mar 27, 2015 5:21:15 GMT -5
Managed a -4 in Round 3 and -5 in Round 4 for -17 overall. Reckon that will see me between 50-60th Disappointing for myself after 2 Top 15 finishes back to back but should keep me well in the running for Matchplay Championship. Masters invite is in the bag!
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Post by gringoinacaddy on Mar 27, 2015 7:39:17 GMT -5
This is the first course we've played that I really enjoyed!!! I love having to actually think out a shot to execute the results. It was setup perfect. The numbers being posted in this aren't crazy either. The fact that you can shoot somewhere around a -7 to -9 every round and be near the top is the way it should be.
For the ones complaining I say this to you, this is the PGA. We are not supposed to be birdieing every hole. The way this course was, if you actually take the extra time to find a spot to land the ball almost every hole is accessible. Our tournaments in the past, if you wasnt knocking the flag down every hole you had no chance of winning. Your not supposed to be making birdies on 450+ yard par 4s with ease. So in my eyes this is just right. I look foward to seeing more tourneys just like this!
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Post by dystemper on Mar 27, 2015 9:12:46 GMT -5
I thought I'd hate this tourney when it was tweaked, but I did enjoy it. There's something about having to grind it out. Pars are a positive score, not like the last couple of tourneys were I was pissed with par.
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Post by seamount4life on Mar 27, 2015 15:30:47 GMT -5
This is the first course we've played that I really enjoyed!!! I love having to actually think out a shot to execute the results. It was setup perfect. The numbers being posted in this aren't crazy either. The fact that you can shoot somewhere around a -7 to -9 every round and be near the top is the way it should be. For the ones complaining I say this to you, this is the PGA. We are not supposed to be birdieing every hole. The way this course was, if you actually take the extra time to find a spot to land the ball almost every hole is accessible. Our tournaments in the past, if you wasnt knocking the flag down every hole you had no chance of winning. Your not supposed to be making birdies on 450+ yard par 4s with ease. So in my eyes this is just right. I look foward to seeing more tourneys just like this! I like the fact that it isn't a birdie fest and the scoring was higher. It was nice not having the pressure of needing birdie every hole. I just hated that I felt penalized for good shots and often was double penalized because my next shot was a lost cause based on the design of the green. Remember too that I was playing in 15 mph which definitely didn't help things. there were a handful of greens that I honestly don't think I could hit in regulation based on wind and greenspeed. There was one par 3 that I landed way short of green, the ball hopped on then rolled and almost went in for an ace (It was rolling pretty good but was going slow enough that it MAY have gone into the hole). well it barely missed the cup, then proceeded to roll 17 yards PAST the hole off the back of the green. My next shot was a chip from the fringe and it was DOWNHILL meaning that my previous shot rolled 17yds past the hole UPHILL (And it wasn't going THAT fast). Then I chip my next shot and was very cautious with distance knowing it was slippery and downhill. I basically popped it up and landed it about a quarter of the way to the hole, it proceeded to roll past the hole and off the green again. If I wanted to play on an ice rink I would play NHL 15.
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Post by bentfivewood on Mar 28, 2015 17:57:25 GMT -5
Barely made the cut this week at -8. Round 3 70 (-2) and a scintillating 82 (+10) in round 4. For a busted up finish of even par. I think I'm taking home $5 and a free fill-up at Shamrock gas.
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Post by mcbogga on Mar 28, 2015 20:24:19 GMT -5
-13 after 2 rounds. Happy with that even if I really played better than a 68 first round. Could not get the birdies to drop, but got some of that back in second round where some snakes found their home. I'm sure I will find a way to have a blow-up round before the tournament is over though... Have to say that the course really shines in these conditions. Played the normal set up when it won the contest and honestly thought it was great craftmanship but a bit of a yawn otherwise. In the firm conditions the design really comes out and shows what a master-piece this is. Some tee-shots are genial when there are real consquences to going into the first cut. Hanging back with a 3W or hitting drive is not a given on many of the holes here. Positioing in the fairway and picking the right landing area and spin on the approach also becomes key. Measured agression is rewarded, but stupid choices are punished. Bravo, Reebdoog, Bravo. Two disappointing rounds to finish off. -4,-2 for -19 total. Wind picked up a bit to 10-15mph and I was just a bit too aggressive hunting for birdies to climb the leaderboard and still need to learn how to handle the wind a bit better. Too many bogeys and a double stopped any top 10 ambitions. Had a -9 practice round in same winds on the Friday pins before teeing off, so left wondering what might have been... Really like the more realistic scoring!
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Post by Alexander Salvator on Mar 29, 2015 12:26:33 GMT -5
I played the fourth round in practice around a dozen times before I started my last tournament round. Never played better than -3 (and never worse than +1). Now I played a -7 and finished 8th in the tournament. I am extremely happy.
Even if I had not finished with such a good result I would have congratulated the course designer for this great course and great pin placements. The course is tough but never unfair! It is just not a course where you can attack all pins. You have to stay patient and rely on good chipping and putting. I don't no think that I holed more than one putt outside the 25ft range in 72 holes but I kept them close to the pin for an easy par most of the time. I wished I would have chipped better as I only holed 2-3 chips within 15 ft. But I also kept them close to the hole.
Do not make many mistakes , play birdie on the Par 5s and hole one or the other putt. That worked really well for me and that is exactly what a round in TGC golf should be like for the future.
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Post by Oblong on Mar 29, 2015 15:28:38 GMT -5
I am going to rant, but please don't take it as complaining because this course played very similar to what the pros are dealing with this week...good shots turning out bad, bad shots turning out good, 3 putts, etc. I was only 8 shots off the lead going into round 3 and I knew anyone ahead of me could blow up on this course. Wasn't meant to be as it was me who felt some WTF frustrations out there (as it should be, this is GOLF for goodness sakes!). I think in my first 10 tourneys I have carded maybe 4 or 5 bogeys total from 40 rounds. Hole 2 and I carded my first triple bogey, damn ball did not want to go in that cup, lol. I let my frustration get to me and parred the following par 5 followed by a birdie, par, a bogey, and then thankfully 2 birdies to finish the front 9. What a freaking adventure that was. Knowning my tourney was done I was just trying to save my own face and finish under par. Somehow managed a -1 for the day. In the 1st 2 rounds I hadn't even missed a fairway and that round I missed 5. I think -1 was was actually a good score considering how poorly I played. Round 4 was an adventure too. 4 bogeys on the day, including one on a par 3 after I had made my best shot of the day ending up only 6 feet from the pin...and I 3 putted, ugh. Just missed an albatross by inches but it rolled 10 feet past and I couldn't convert the eagle. No eagles in the entire tourney. I did make a nice putt from off the green for birdie and along with 10 other birdies finished with a -6, just how I started my tourney off in round 1. Total -18 and I must say with all the weird bounces, missed greens, misread grids, and fairways missed that this is the first tourney all season that really had some resemblance to what I watch on TV every weekend on the PGA Tour. I understand for many this is a game and should be relaxing but the sport of golf is one of the most frustrating sports ever invented and it wouldn't be right if the game didn't have a little bit of that too. There is a fine line between calling something "tricked up" vs. admitting you just made a bad shot for the situation or just got an unlucky bounce. I bet if we had the API for all the holes that at least someone birdied and/or eagled every hole for each round. If it's possible then it's fair as we all played the same course. Sorry for the sermon with the round details, sometimes I get on a roll and courses design/choice seems to be a hot topic around here. I LOVE that TGCT has taken on a variety approach with some easy courses, medium courses, and now some tough ones. The winner at the end will show that they conquered all. Finally, the whole deal about the best will win no matter what the condition...I'm not so sure we've come close to figuring out who the "best" is by a long shot. Just check the WGR rankings on the leaderboards week to week. The Top 25 WGR are far from always the Top 25 leaderboard and look at the # of different players who have won a tourney. That speaks loudly for how a game trying to be like real golf should be. Next up...Fire Rock Ranch and I'm going to stop off at the store to buy some tissues and glue to hand out for those needing their tears wiped and controllers repaired...myself maybe included! Good luck to all and congrats to Daniel Coates for his great play this week!
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Post by Oblong on Mar 29, 2015 15:35:50 GMT -5
Didn't edit quick enough...I meant to say I finished -17 for the tourney...34th place. 'scuse me!
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Post by rod81simo on Mar 29, 2015 15:46:51 GMT -5
Didn't edit quick enough...I meant to say I finished -17 for the tourney...34th place. 'scuse me! Sorry Fred that's a 2 stroke penalty for an incorrect score. -15 or you I'm gonna finish top 40.... Everyone struggled over the weekend it seems. Gonna be a close call on top 90 for sure. Still a few scores to be keyed and sitting T37
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Post by Brionne on Mar 30, 2015 1:09:13 GMT -5
Just check the WGR rankings on the leaderboards week to week. The Top 25 WGR are far from always the Top 25 leaderboard and look at the # of different players who have won a tourney. That speaks loudly for how a game trying to be like real golf should be. Just want to point out.... That may be true for most, but not for everyone. While I may not be the best (I think Doyley is), I am one of the most consistent players out there with 9 consecutive top 5 finishes on the Euro Tour and 2 consecutive top 10 finishes on the PGA tour. That makes 11 single digit finishes.... in a row But you are right that the best will be the one who adapts to the variety of conditions the best
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