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Post by fadgewacker on Apr 14, 2020 9:43:02 GMT -5
In theory I like that this course is on the schedule, it's nice to have variety and be forced to play a different style of game at times. But I do not like this course. Struggled with my swing, made bone head plays like trying to putt from heavy rough (I guess I haven't done it before. Had a 14 foot uphill "putt" from the heavy rough, about 1.5 feet of rough before the green, thought a 35 foot putt length would be enough, nope, it went 1 foot. oops. Repeated and this time I got halfway to the hole. Bogeyed that hole). Even though my ball striking was poor, my putting saved me from having a bad score. Finished at -9 for Round 1. Here's the best 2-putt of my life. Never in doubt! I had your 1st putt and actually played it well, to about 15ft ish, and missed the 2nd putt!
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Post by mrohde4 on Apr 14, 2020 10:46:28 GMT -5
I know we aren’t playing for anything tangible, but it’s getting frustrating to grind my a** off week in and week out for two rounds to probably make/miss the cut by a shot... And then wake up to learn another top player has been API’d ... again.
I’d like to believe in five years that I understand the parameters of this game, and this stuff just doesn’t pass the smell test. Maybe someone can explain why this is so difficult to consistently pass the metrics that are intended to capture “inhuman” data results?
I appreciate the contributions to the community and your stances on the sanctities of competition, but cmon man this isn’t difficult to play with a DS4. There are enough bread crumbs to believe this isn’t the case, and any benefit of the doubt is lost after a third time.
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Post by Crazycanuck1985 on Apr 14, 2020 14:27:06 GMT -5
Been avoiding the PGA forums because of all the extra-curriculars, but I'll chime in. Curious as to why people just don't hold the controller normally and swing the way the game intended? I mean, it's not hard. If you rely on stupid grips and stick flicking, you really aren't that good at the game, you are just trying to game the system and hopefully not get caught.
I got demoted this week from Euro so the good news is I'm now 2 promotions away from this garbage heap of a tour.
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Post by fadgewacker on Apr 14, 2020 14:54:47 GMT -5
Been avoiding the PGA forums because of all the extra-curriculars, but I'll chime in. Curious as to why people just don't hold the controller normally and swing the way the game intended? I mean, it's not hard. If you rely on stupid grips and stick flicking, you really aren't that good at the game, you are just trying to game the system and hopefully not get caught. I got demoted this week from Euro so the good news is I'm now 2 promotions away from this garbage heap of a tour. I have seen some crazy techniques these last couple of years... rotating pads and the like. Double thumbs from a guy who’s going to come and win a lot very soon... just some seriously odd sh%$. I always just held pad in my right hand and used my left thumb to swing, until about 2/3 of the way through my first season when I had a go at the “chess piece” version which worked pretty well and I stuck with it... What’s an acceptable way to use a controller, out of interest?
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Post by b101 on Apr 14, 2020 15:02:20 GMT -5
What’s an acceptable way to use a controller, out of interest? The way that doesn’t require description.
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Post by Crazycanuck1985 on Apr 14, 2020 15:17:29 GMT -5
What’s an acceptable way to use a controller, out of interest? Is....is this a serious question? Hold it like you would normally hold it playing literally any other game from the past 15-20 years. Does this actually require further explanation? No "chess pieces" or "double thumbs" or anything with nail polish. In fact, if your grip has a name, you are probably not playing the way the game intended. I look down at my controller when I swing, but no silly grips or thumb movements.
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Post by stoneysooner on Apr 14, 2020 15:42:06 GMT -5
Left thumb - left stick. Played terrible in the first round due to my own incompetence, but believe I will blame the lighting instead. Just missed way too many putts and hit a fast in the drink to make double on the first par 3. Finished up at -6. Played much better the second round and gave myself a chance at the cut. Decided to finish, and couldn't get anything going on the weekend but should be another Top 50 finish.
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Post by fadgewacker on Apr 14, 2020 15:48:53 GMT -5
What’s an acceptable way to use a controller, out of interest? Is....is this a serious question? Hold it like you would normally hold it playing literally any other game from the past 15-20 years. Does this actually require further explanation? No "chess pieces" or "double thumbs" or anything with nail polish. In fact, if your grip has a name, you are probably not playing the way the game intended. I look down at my controller when I swing, but no silly grips or thumb movements. Why don’t you look at the screen like any other damn game you’ve played in the last 20 years 😂 Jesus wept... it’s a funny old world.
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Apr 14, 2020 15:50:35 GMT -5
I know we aren’t playing for anything tangible, but it’s getting frustrating to grind my a** off week in and week out for two rounds to probably make/miss the cut by a shot... And then wake up to learn another top player has been API’d ... again. I’d like to believe in five years that I understand the parameters of this game, and this stuff just doesn’t pass the smell test. Maybe someone can explain why this is so difficult to consistently pass the metrics that are intended to capture “inhuman” data results? I appreciate the contributions to the community and your stances on the sanctities of competition, but cmon man this isn’t difficult to play with a DS4. There are enough bread crumbs to believe this isn’t the case, and any benefit of the doubt is lost after a third time. If so many top players are failing the API, wouldn't Occam's razor be "it isn't only picking up inhuman results" rather than "they're all trying to cheat and continuing to do so after failing the API"?
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Post by theduke21 on Apr 14, 2020 16:01:53 GMT -5
Been avoiding the PGA forums because of all the extra-curriculars, but I'll chime in. Curious as to why people just don't hold the controller normally and swing the way the game intended? I mean, it's not hard. If you rely on stupid grips and stick flicking, you really aren't that good at the game, you are just trying to game the system and hopefully not get caught. I got demoted this week from Euro so the good news is I'm now 2 promotions away from this garbage heap of a tour. This is a bad take Andre. First off, there are many different controller grips across all video games. I assume you think people who use claw grip in shooters are cheating? That would basically make every single competitive controller player in CoD and Fortnite cheaters. Someone using their thumb differently than you think is natural isn’t cheating. That’s essentially like saying Jim Furyk’s swing was cheating because it wasn’t the natural way to swing or Gary Sheffield’s stance was cheating because it created more swing speed.
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Post by theduke21 on Apr 14, 2020 16:20:04 GMT -5
I know we aren’t playing for anything tangible, but it’s getting frustrating to grind my a** off week in and week out for two rounds to probably make/miss the cut by a shot... And then wake up to learn another top player has been API’d ... again. I’d like to believe in five years that I understand the parameters of this game, and this stuff just doesn’t pass the smell test. Maybe someone can explain why this is so difficult to consistently pass the metrics that are intended to capture “inhuman” data results? I appreciate the contributions to the community and your stances on the sanctities of competition, but cmon man this isn’t difficult to play with a DS4. There are enough bread crumbs to believe this isn’t the case, and any benefit of the doubt is lost after a third time. I'd like to believe in five years you'd understand I wouldn't suddenly start cheating in February of 2020 after posting videos and streaming gameplay plenty of times through the years.
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Post by mrohde4 on Apr 14, 2020 16:24:40 GMT -5
I know we aren’t playing for anything tangible, but it’s getting frustrating to grind my a** off week in and week out for two rounds to probably make/miss the cut by a shot... And then wake up to learn another top player has been API’d ... again. I’d like to believe in five years that I understand the parameters of this game, and this stuff just doesn’t pass the smell test. Maybe someone can explain why this is so difficult to consistently pass the metrics that are intended to capture “inhuman” data results? I appreciate the contributions to the community and your stances on the sanctities of competition, but cmon man this isn’t difficult to play with a DS4. There are enough bread crumbs to believe this isn’t the case, and any benefit of the doubt is lost after a third time. If so many top players are failing the API, wouldn't Occam's razor be "it isn't only picking up inhuman results" rather than "they're all trying to cheat and continuing to do so after failing the API"? I assume your Occam's razor reference is the most likely cause of a player failing the API is something innocent like a dead spot or a newbie using a third party pad, then sure, I'll buy what you're selling. But players who consistently finish in the top 25 getting pulled 3, 4, 5 times in a season? Cmon. It's a pattern. These #elites know every angle of this game. Perhaps it's wrong to single anyone out, but after a certain point it's just disheartening. And I didn't accuse anyone of cheating. Whether someone's cheating all depends on your definition. Is teetering the API line by using a third party pad or by flicking considered "cheating" by the literal definition? As someone who's never failed, please enlighten me. You might pass API 18 out of 20 times, but I fail to understand how we should all just merrily keep skipping down the road when the pulls keep piling up.
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Post by GW_Hope on Apr 14, 2020 16:25:49 GMT -5
What’s an acceptable way to use a controller, out of interest? Is....is this a serious question? Hold it like you would normally hold it playing literally any other game from the past 15-20 years. Does this actually require further explanation? No "chess pieces" or "double thumbs" or anything with nail polish. In fact, if your grip has a name, you are probably not playing the way the game intended. I look down at my controller when I swing, but no silly grips or thumb movements. But if players can use a mouse then that theory is shot. I play as you do thoigh.
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Post by theduke21 on Apr 14, 2020 16:29:02 GMT -5
If so many top players are failing the API, wouldn't Occam's razor be "it isn't only picking up inhuman results" rather than "they're all trying to cheat and continuing to do so after failing the API"? I assume your Occam's razor reference is the most likely cause of a player failing the API is something innocent like a dead spot or a newbie using a third party pad, then sure, I'll buy what you're selling. But players who consistently finish in the top 25 getting pulled 3, 4, 5 times in a season? Cmon. It's a pattern. These #elites know every angle of this game. Perhaps it's wrong to single anyone out, but after a certain point it's just disheartening. And I didn't accuse anyone of cheating. Whether someone's cheating all depends on your definition. Is teetering the API line by using a third party pad or by flicking considered "cheating" by the literal definition? As someone who's never failed, please enlighten me. You might pass API 18 out of 20 times, but I fail to understand how we should all just merrily keep skipping down the road when the pulls keep piling up. Well as you'll see in my video, I neither use a 3rd party pad or flick, yet here we are. Though I did try a Scuf in exhibition testing tournaments way back just out of curiosity and that was expectedly pulled.
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Post by Dave on Apr 14, 2020 16:29:09 GMT -5
What’s an acceptable way to use a controller, out of interest? Is....is this a serious question? Hold it like you would normally hold it playing literally any other game from the past 15-20 years. Does this actually require further explanation? No "chess pieces" or "double thumbs" or anything with nail polish. In fact, if your grip has a name, you are probably not playing the way the game intended. I look down at my controller when I swing, but no silly grips or thumb movements. This made me LOL. This is precisely what's broken about this game imo and why I cba with the forums much any more. It's a game. It's supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be about being as good as you can be. If people find they can be better at games by holding the controller different to you that's their choice. I hold the controller the same for every game. I don't know how else to hold it. Any other way feels unnatural. If this is different to you, unlucky for you! I get that there are rules to abide by to compete on this site and that's fine, but seriously, dictating to people how they should hold their controller? What's next? Telling people they can't use TV's over 55"? 😂😂😂
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