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Post by BENNY6676 on May 13, 2019 9:13:49 GMT -5
Giraffe72. Am I? 🤣🤣 Ffs! I thought if players were tied on the same score playing with the same clubs then they'd all get promotion marks and it would only be classed as one place? I was assuming it meant the top ten scores for each clubset not the top ten people. I think it's a good thing I don't have to worry about it then because I'm bloody useless at working stuff out like this 🤣🤣 It is! The top 10 Pro players get a mark and so do the top 10 Masters players (including ties). I'm really confused about the confusion! Then would I be right re last week's qualifier at Hazeltine in CCZ, where the 10th best pro club score was in 22nd place and the tenth best master score was in 37th place? I told my mate these workings because he didn't understand it. I've just baffled him even more now. 🤣😂 |
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Post by Doyley on May 13, 2019 9:27:37 GMT -5
It is! The top 10 Pro players get a mark and so do the top 10 Masters players (including ties). I'm really confused about the confusion! Then would I be right re last week's qualifier at Hazeltine in CCZ, where the 10th best pro club score was in 22nd place and the tenth best master score was in 37th place? I told my mate these workings because he didn't understand it. I've just baffled him even more now. 🤣😂 I think you may be counting by score as opposed to individual player? Ie if 5 pro players shot 20-under you are counting that as 1 slot where it is actually 5. The 'plus ties' only applies to the score of the person in 10th. |
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csfromks
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Tour: CC-Pro
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Post by csfromks on May 13, 2019 9:58:36 GMT -5
Not that you need more cents but here are my 2  I bought the game in January, first time with TGC, and decided to just start on master clubs and figure it out from there. I played by myself for a bit before I joined the Tours here and somehow made it to CC-A right out of Q-school. It has been a struggle to score that high since haha! Anyways, I quickly noticed that guys playing Pro clubs dominated most of the top of the leader board. I had been thinking of dropping to Pro clubs since due to this but with this change, I'll just keep grinding away on Master. I don't expect to be great at this game but I'm competitive as hell and want to advance. But between work and the real world, it would be hard to play on Pro but practice on Master, just not enough time in the day. To me, this is a very welcome change. |
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Post by fransslabak on May 13, 2019 10:10:50 GMT -5
My two cents: great change!
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Post by BENNY6676 on May 13, 2019 10:29:50 GMT -5
Thanks Doyley, that's exactly what I was doing. I'm an idiot 🤣 |
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NinjaMonkeyIII
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TGCT Name: Steve Galletta
Tour: European
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Post by NinjaMonkeyIII on May 13, 2019 10:40:41 GMT -5
IMHO the whole CC should’ve master clubs only from the start.
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jgf
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Post by jgf on May 13, 2019 10:50:34 GMT -5
Love the game, love idea behind the site. Let's get that in there first. Still a noob but getting better. CC-G but working on it. Pro clubs. Scored -23, T18. My first mark! Excited  Then not  Whatever the arguments for and against this change, changing mid-tournament is pretty obviously unfair. Losing first mark through no fault of my own bit of a cooler. I'm new here so I won't say too much on the underlying debate. But good luck if you're riding the Tour de France this summer, come in 10 minutes behind the leaders on the Tourmalet and say 'yeah, but look at the massive gear I rode up here on' |
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Post by gatorman on May 13, 2019 10:56:35 GMT -5
Then would I be right re last week's qualifier at Hazeltine in CCZ, where the 10th best pro club score was in 22nd place and the tenth best master score was in 37th place? I told my mate these workings because he didn't understand it. I've just baffled him even more now. 🤣😂 I think you may be counting by score as opposed to individual player? Ie if 5 pro players shot 20-under you are counting that as 1 slot where it is actually 5. The 'plus ties' only applies to the score of the person in 10th. Yikes, that makes it harder for me as Pro Club player in CC-f to get to top 20. I thought it was grouped by score so 20 players at -20 and 20 players at -19 all get promotion mark if that was top of leaderboard. Your're saying only the -20 players get promotion mark. Because now you group same position for same score. So the 20 at -20 are in 1st and 20 at -19 are in second. Is this scenario accurrate or am I missing something? |
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Post by Doyley on May 13, 2019 11:06:26 GMT -5
I think you may be counting by score as opposed to individual player? Ie if 5 pro players shot 20-under you are counting that as 1 slot where it is actually 5. The 'plus ties' only applies to the score of the person in 10th. Yikes, that makes it harder for me as Pro Club player in CC-f to get to top 20. I thought it was grouped by score so 20 players at -20 and 20 players at -19 all get promotion mark if that was top of leaderboard. Your're saying only the -20 players get promotion mark. Because now you group same position for same score. So the 20 at -20 are in 1st and 20 at -19 are in second. Is this scenario accurrate or am I missing something? Pro Clubs: 29-under (9th place) or better got promotion marks Master Clubs: 22-under (31st place) or better got promotion marks It's unfortunate we had to spring it on the masses fairly unannounced - we did mention it on forums and on What's Going On and on the Admin show - but I could not confirm exact date and time until it was tested which ended up being Sunday morning. Should also note that now that it's public/official I expect to see a bigger percentage of Master Club users show up across the board from here on out. |
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PKR33
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TGCT Name: Patrick Roach
Tour: CC-Am
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Post by PKR33 on May 13, 2019 11:09:46 GMT -5
So it appears the pro club users are getting punished now? Cc am circuit should just be top 20 no matter what. Cc am isn’t a top flight so why the need to use masters. Why was this rolled out to every circuit? I totally understand in CC-Pro but don’t get the need in AM? I’d be quite happy to drop down to AM if it was pro club only. Perhaps PRO and above should be Masters Clubs and AM should be Pro clubs and Beginner clubs already have their own division. Then everyone would be happy surely? I WOULD LOVE THIS |
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Post by Doyley on May 13, 2019 11:10:44 GMT -5
I’d be quite happy to drop down to AM if it was pro club only. Perhaps PRO and above should be Masters Clubs and AM should be Pro clubs and Beginner clubs already have their own division. Then everyone would be happy surely? I WOULD LOVE THIS We're looking into something similar for Season 6. It won't happen this season though. |
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uhohnene
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TGCT Name: Mike Huggins
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Post by uhohnene on May 13, 2019 11:12:05 GMT -5
I love the change and now won't curse the gods if I end up back in CC-A.  |
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PKR33
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TGCT Name: Patrick Roach
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Post by PKR33 on May 13, 2019 11:12:15 GMT -5
Okay, I usually keep quite on the forums for a number of reasons, but the change was not needed and, to me, hurts individuals. Now you have players that have played Pro clubs the entire time and doing well with it but now it seems that you all are trying to force people into using Master Clubs and punishing those who now have to go out and figure out a whole new tempo. I agree with some of the above, if you want people to use Master Clubs keep it in CC-Pro and above. Also, why wasn't there a vote for the change (if there was a vote, my bad that I missed it) It was hard enough to get Promotion Points as it was but now you have made it even harder. I don't agree with the change of basically the top 20 in AMs and 15 in Pros are the ones now getting the Marks, never should have changed that at the least. I have used Pro clubs and have climbed from z to e. Moving forward more with Pro clubs seems a lot harder now. I think we should just rip the band aid off and say CC-Pro is masters only and CC-Am is Pro clubs. Therefore there would be no filtering leader boards. You would then just have one club set to choose. |
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Post by steamerandy64 on May 13, 2019 11:52:13 GMT -5
We have changed the promotion mark logic for the Challenge Circuit. It was in effect prior to us finalizing Week 27. Details below: Old Promotion Mark logic:
- Top 20 plus ties in CC-Am/CC-Pro got promotion mark (regardless of clubset used)
New Promotion Mark Logic:- CC-A: Top 15 Master clubs and Top 5 Pro clubs get promotion mark (plus ties)
- CC-B through CC-Z: Top 10 Master clubs and Top 10 Pro clubs get promotion mark (plus ties)
- CC-A winner will only auto-promote if they use Master Clubs or the win gives them 5+ Promotion MarksÂ
- If CC-A winner used pro clubs only 1 promo mark given
Still to Come:
We'll be adding the following filters to our leaderboards: - Pro/Master (these filters will be on CC-Pro/CC-Am leaderboards)
- PS4/XB1/PC (these filters will be on all TGCT leaderboards)
I've also put in a request to have a Movement Mark column added to all final leaderboards that show who got promotion marks and demotion marks from that specific event. Why?For the majority of the Challenge Circuit we've given each clubset an equal shot at earning a promotion mark. This is the fairest way to disperse promotion marks in our current structure. In CC-A we've put a higher priority on Master Clubs. The next step up the ladder (Web.com) requires them be used. Ideally we'll get more people switching from Pro to Master Clubs on CC-A since there will be a better chance to earn a promotion mark that way. Those that prefer Pro clubs should have a longer time promoting out of CC-A before being forced to use the Master clubset. Good news, but why not make it the same as cc-a through all divisions as an incentive to use masters clubs. Do we have to declare that we are using masters clubs on our profile or does it get picked up automatically? As i use both sets. |
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Post by Doyley on May 13, 2019 12:12:34 GMT -5
Good news, but why not make it the same as cc-a through all divisions as an incentive to use masters clubs. Do we have to declare that we are using masters clubs on our profile or does it get picked up automatically? As i use both sets. We only are going to put a priority on master clubs on CC-A as the next tour up requires them - the rest will have an equal amount of promotion slots available. Your clubset is automatically selected by what you use in game. ex. 4 pro club rounds = Pro Clubs 4 master club rounds = Master Clubs 3 Master Club rounds, 1 Pro club = Pro Clubs You need to use Master Clubs all 4 rounds to be assigned Master Clubs on the leaderboards. |
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