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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 13:29:31 GMT -5
This has been on my mind for a while and haven't found somewhere i can vent about it  Here in the UK there are so many big headed c**** on the road who deserve to have their licences cut in two. There are so many things that irritate me on the road. 1. Tailgaters 2. People who speed (60 in a 40 for example) 3. Slow drivers (people who drive at 20 in a 30 or 35 in a 50, please just walk off a cliff please) 4. Fast lane/middle lane hoggers. That fourth one really bugs me a lot. I'm doing say 70mph in the slow lane and need to overtake, i go to do so but a t*** is doing 60 in the fast lane and with nothing ahead of him. Again please walk over to a cliff and jump  I could name some other problems and yes im not perfect but im a christian motorist compared to some people. I hope im not the only one who is this annoyed with some of the drivers on the road. It can't just be the UK though. Edit: I hate lorries too. Please slow down instead of moving over and staying the same speed as the lorry/vehicle next to you. I have also seen a lorry move over and then the other speed up so they are both holding up the vehicles behind. I am sorry if any one who reads this is a lorry driver but it does get annoying! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 13:44:56 GMT -5
I drive about 150 miles everyday, and used to drive cross country for work. I can assure you that this is a worldwide problem. I rather enjoy watching dumb people driving on YouTube from time to time, where there are thousands of compilations of people just doing dumb sh%$. I probably yell 'drive better' 5 times everyday. Despite my road rage though, I am a very relaxed, courteous and safe driver, except when im headed to save a kids life.
On another topic of idiocy, who locks their kids in the car?
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 22, 2019 15:42:20 GMT -5
As a driver I'm sure you probably hate cyclists, but as a cyclist let me say drivers are f-ing HORRIBLE for us!
My biggest pet peeve, among many, is when it's a really tight residential street, two cars wouldn't be able to pass, and I'm going towards a car, they just carry on at 20-30mph, knowing I'll have to make space or more likely stop, coz it's more dangerous and intimidating to me! HATE it!
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Post by jacobkessler on Mar 22, 2019 15:51:00 GMT -5
The thing that pisses me off to no end is people who drive distracted. I mean, you’re putting so many lives at risk doing something on your phone that can wait. If it’s that important, pull over and take care of it!
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Post by JosiaDB on Mar 22, 2019 17:43:07 GMT -5
Most of what upsets me about other drivers can be summed up in one sentence.
People that aren't considerate of others.
We are all using the roads, and everyone that is on them is going 'somewhere'. A little consideration of each other and patience would go a long way.
Slow drivers and bicycles dont' bother me at all. Some don't feel comfortable driving fast, and I'd rather them drive at a level they are comfortable, than risk a wreck. Should they turn in their license? No way. As long as they are safe they pay the same taxes as I do, and have just as much right to drive as I do. Same with bicycles. what are they supposed to do, ride out in the ditch somewhere? LOL I won't lie, it does aggravate me to have to slow down.. But I try to be very considerate of whatever reason the person has that they may be going slower, and I don't let it get to me.
Now, if you are walking, yes, I do expect you to step safely off and away from the road, when vehicles are near, unless its not possible, like you are on a cliff. (which, in my part of the country, is a fairly decent chance. LOL)
Other things that get me- -People that speed. Its called a speed limit, not a speed suggestion.
-People that drive distracted. Whatever it is, it can wait. If you are the driver, pay attention to driving. Everything else don't matter.
-But the number one and number two things that gets me-
-People that know a lane is ending, and they go all the way up to the last moment and try to edge their way in. This is the equivalent of going to a line, well, anywhere, and walking to the front of it and just pushing your way in. I doubt these idiots would have the balls to try this on foot, where others could beat them senseless. All it does is cause traffic jams behind them for everyone else, and shows what a true scum of lowest humanity that these folks are.
People that stop on the entrance on ramps to highways. Most everyone realizes what is going on , and will create a spot for you to merge in. The only ones that won't are the people in the sentence above this. Everyone else will make a space for you. AS LONG AS YOU GET UP TO SPEED AND DO YOUR PART. Slowing down and GASP stopping only creates a very very dangerous situation for everyone around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 18:30:23 GMT -5
As a driver I'm sure you probably hate cyclists, but as a cyclist let me say drivers are f-ing HORRIBLE for us! My biggest pet peeve, among many, is when it's a really tight residential street, two cars wouldn't be able to pass, and I'm going towards a car, they just carry on at 20-30mph, knowing I'll have to make space or more likely stop, coz it's more dangerous and intimidating to me! HATE it! I'm sure the people on the bikes are normal people in every way but when im stuck behind one for what seems like an eternity it really does test the limited patience i have |
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Post by ErixonStone on Mar 22, 2019 20:19:42 GMT -5
People that know a lane is ending, and they go all the way up to the last moment and try to edge their way in. Studies show that doing this increases traffic flow by up to 15%. Cars should use all lanes available to them and then alternate-merge at the end. |
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Post by mde8965 on Mar 22, 2019 20:26:11 GMT -5
I am a much better driver today than I was when I was in my 20s. I was always pretty inconsiderate, tailgated a lot etc.
Then I owned and operated an oval track race car for a few years. You would think this would make my driving on the road even worse. But it had the opposite effect. It taught me to expect the unexpected, to drive defensively as much as offensively, and to have a little patience.
I do speed from time to time still. Never severely. Maybe 10 over on the Interstate and 6-7 over on a 50mph road. I never ever race on the road, ever.
I do have some road rage because I just get so pissed off at people that are being rude and inconsiderate. Most of my pet peeves others have mentioned:
1) Distracted driving - put the freakin phone, makeup, newspaper away. Don’t screw around with the radio. And don’t be looking down when the light turns green. On the interstate distracted drivers drive like they are drunk. Speed all over the place and weaving all over their lane.
2) The thing where the lane ends and they move into that lane to pass cars and try and beg in right before it’s too late. If I’m that car in the next lane and you try and do that to me you can stop or run into the side of me cause you ain’t gettin in directly in front of me.
3) fast and the furious want to be’s. Weaving in and out of every lane, tailgating and not signaling at all.
4) motorcycle riders that split lanes..pass in between two cars next to each other in two lanes.
5) Left lane riders with nobody in front of them going no faster or slower than the center or right lanes on the interstate. Fine if nobody is behind you but if somebody comes up behind either speed up or get over.
6) Folks that don’t know what a blinker is. Especially if actually making a right or left turn without signaling.
7) Dudes that want everyone around to hear how bumpin’ their audio system is.
8) Smokers that flip their butts out the window and it hits your vehicle. (Behind them).
Somebody mentioned pedestrians. Anyone watch accident videos on YT and notice Russian pedestrians seem to dare people to kill them. They see a crosswalk, they walk..no worries those cars will stop. Except half the Russian drivers are either drunk,sleeping, or racing.
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Post by TreeWood on Mar 22, 2019 21:39:03 GMT -5
All I can add to this is the following:
Porsche Cayenne and garage destroyed. LOL... This was AFTER the 16-year-old unlicensed driver had sped off from the scene after colliding with a parked car. Vancouver, Canada is the undisputed world champion of lousy drivers.
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Post by JosiaDB on Mar 22, 2019 23:05:05 GMT -5
People that know a lane is ending, and they go all the way up to the last moment and try to edge their way in. Studies show that doing this increases traffic flow by up to 15%. Cars should use all lanes available to them and then alternate-merge at the end. I do not agree. Studies can say what they want, but I go on real world experience, that I see happening. Perhaps if people actually DID this, it may work, but people are too selfish, and it becomes a giant cluster.
Every single instance that I've seen, when people are going all the way up to the end, traffic is backed up for miles, because the people move over into the lane ending and then are all trying to force their way back in, nobody is alternate merging.
But every single instance where I see people actually moving over into the open lane when they first see the signs that say a lane is ending, you know what? Every single time, traffic is flowing freely, about 10 miles below the speed limit, but moving right along.
Studies can say what they want, but I know what I see in real life, man.
EDIT: As I think on this, I see what the problem is. If you wait till the very end, to alternate merge, you have to stop. You can't safely alternate merge at 45-55 miles an hour, when you are at the end where the lane ends, people would hit each other. So the thing to do is pretty much what I am saying that I see that work. You alternate merge, but you do this when you see the sign that says to merge. Not at the very end. That way everyone continues at a decent speed.
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Post by ErixonStone on Mar 23, 2019 6:58:57 GMT -5
Studies can say what they want, but I go on real world experience Don't listen to me; listen to traffic experts: There are many videos explaining the Zipper Merge and why it's better. If you're the guy not letting in mergers, then you're the problem causing excess traffic. |
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Post by JosiaDB on Mar 23, 2019 10:34:28 GMT -5
well first off ErixonStone telling me to listen to 'experts' is counterproductive, because experts are just other people with opinions that think highly of themselves, in my book. LOL
Studies are done by people that want to pontificate on things and spout their theories, rather than go out and actually fix the problem.
I would rather listen to your thoughts and opinions any day over experts and studies.
But I did watch the video, and I don't you think you realize that we are talking about the same solution, just in a different way.
And I don't think you get, or don't seem to, what is the problem.
The main problem here, is that people simply do not do the zipper merge, until the last second. Most people expect the zipper merge, when the signs first alert you, not at the very end.
Lets say that the signs pop up a mile ahead. You have to slow down to 45 mph. At that rate, it would take you 80 seconds to get from the point you see the sign to merge, to the point that the lane ends. If you go ahead and zipper merge right then, you can keep speed at 45 mph. The video even showed that at one point!
But what happens, is if you go all the way up to the lane ending, you have to slow way down or stop. The video showed card doing that, the purple and yellow ones. They were not going 45 mph.
By what you said, it would saved 12 seconds (15% of 80) per mile, if the safe speed were 45 mph. but if you have to slow down to 25mph to zipper merge safely when the lanes end, (because you can't tell me that people are going to zipper merge with cones right in front of them at 45 mph and not have wrecks) now you are at 160 seconds to go a mile. Thats DOUBLE! So you've saved 12 seconds, but you've added 68 seconds per mile, overall.
Would entertain your thoughts on that, if you see it differently.
By the way, I do let people in. At least one sometimes more. But what we are talking about here, what aggravates most of us, is when you let car after car after car after car after car in, that all come up in that other lane, expecting to be let in, and trying to force their way in. You've been sitting there a half hour letting people that have only come up within 5 minutes all get in front of you.
What do you propose is the solution to this?
I mean, if you are zipper merging, yes, you go up and a car lets you in. the car behind you then should try to get in at the next car back, and so forth. But thats not what happens, is it? Go out on any interstate, you see this happening, no matter what any expert or study says. The people that are supposed to be zippering, are all going up trying to get to the lead, and instead of zippering like is supposed to happen, the non merge lane is sitting still, while all the zipper mergers go to the front.
That is what creates the perception of people breaking in line, regardless of what the line breakers think they are doing.
So perhaps we should not discuss what the solution is to the problem, but how to best implement the solution?
It all goes back to my original thing, simply pay attention to whats going on on the road, and be considerate of others.
If you come up on a lane ending, and you see a line of traffic, then how important is it to you that you saved 12 seconds? Maybe if you go ahead and merge right then, while everyone is at speed, you lose 12 seconds of time. All is good, everyone is happy and stress free.
But if you continue on and start going past people that are slowing down, you may save 12 seconds, but you have caused a lot of stress and road rage from creating a perception that you just walked to the front of the line at the restaurant or theater, and forced your way in.
Come to think of it, if it saves so much time, why don't theaters or concerts do this? Lets just forget the line to get in, and let people all come up to the door, and zipper merge to get in? Anyone think that will work? LOL
And sorry for so much typing, this is just one of my number one peeves on the road, and I don't think I'm the only one.
TLDR: Alternate merging would work, if not for the perception and the way humans act. As such, I'd rather see people driving considerate and stress free, than saving 15% of time.
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Post by ErixonStone on Mar 23, 2019 11:38:54 GMT -5
experts are just other people with opinions that think highly of themselves Experts are people who have devoted the time to study and understand something. They are the people who know more than you or I. Listen to the experts instead of some guy who stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Or your "feelings". |
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Post by cliffs on Mar 23, 2019 12:17:09 GMT -5
Tailgaters and those who don't know what YIELD means.
YIELD does not mean if I am on the highway and you are trying to get on the highway, I should slow down for you...not how it works.
As to the post about stopping on the ramps...California has stop lights for that very reason.
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Post by coruler2 on Mar 23, 2019 16:20:14 GMT -5
My two biggest peeves are:
1. When I'm coming up to a red light and want to turn right, and someone changes into the right lane in front of me just to go straight and make me sit through a 2 minute light sequence
2. Similar as above, but when turning left and you get an arrow, the first cars don't move until you need to honk or it turns yellow, and then they zip through leaving the rest of the line stuck another full sequence.
UGH!
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