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Post by lions67 on Feb 14, 2020 19:02:20 GMT -5
Thinking if the jets can grab a second pairing D without giving up much future it'd be enough to grab a wild card spot. Anything after that would be a bonus. As for extending Maurice, I really don't get it. I do think he's a good coach and I don't blame him for this year, but the meltdown last year with that roster was inexcusable and should've cost him his job. Think it's just time (for better or worse) for a new voice and some change in philosophy. Oh well, hoping we sneak in and see some playoff action at least. The only flaw in your thinking here is who out there can do better with what we have? If the answer is change for the sake of change... that never works and only brings the team down further. If only Buff was......insert here.... |
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Post by titaneddie on Feb 15, 2020 15:31:33 GMT -5
Thinking if the jets can grab a second pairing D without giving up much future it'd be enough to grab a wild card spot. Anything after that would be a bonus. As for extending Maurice, I really don't get it. I do think he's a good coach and I don't blame him for this year, but the meltdown last year with that roster was inexcusable and should've cost him his job. Think it's just time (for better or worse) for a new voice and some change in philosophy. Oh well, hoping we sneak in and see some playoff action at least. The only flaw in your thinking here is who out there can do better with what we have? If the answer is change for the sake of change... that never works and only brings the team down further. If only Buff was......insert here.... Well like I said, I think he's actually getting the most he can out of this roster. He's very good at getting more out of lesser talented roster. It's going from very good to elite as to where I see he struggles. Not finishing first and avoiding the blues last year in the first round was a huge dissapointment with that roster and the start we had. I agree change for the sake of change doesn't always work out, but shaking up this young core by changing the only voice they've ever known might provide dividends down the road. But yeah, who really knows. |
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Post by boffo on Feb 15, 2020 16:03:41 GMT -5
Hooray! The Bruins beat Detroit. Now they just need to win a shootout and I'll be confident there's nothing they can't do.
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Post by lions67 on Feb 15, 2020 19:09:21 GMT -5
The only flaw in your thinking here is who out there can do better with what we have? If the answer is change for the sake of change... that never works and only brings the team down further. If only Buff was......insert here.... Well like I said, I think he's actually getting the most he can out of this roster. He's very good at getting more out of lesser talented roster. It's going from very good to elite as to where I see he struggles. Not finishing first and avoiding the blues last year in the first round was a huge dissapointment with that roster and the start we had. I agree change for the sake of change doesn't always work out, but shaking up this young core by changing the only voice they've ever known might provide dividends down the road. But yeah, who really knows. Totally agree. I’m thinking if we can just get in this year, who knows? It’s a weird year in the NHL. With Little now out for the year we can use that cash along with Buff’s and maybe we can get the piece(s) we need for that push. But if we don’t ... I’m not sweating it either. |
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Post by boffo on Feb 21, 2020 15:04:18 GMT -5
I'm quite excited about the Bruins addition of Ondrej Kase, if he can ever stay healthy and continue to be impressed by Don Sweeney's body of work. B's get a productive, when healthy solid on both offense and defense player who slots perfectly into their open hole in the top 6. Still young at 24, under contract for another full season at $2.6 million and still an RFA after that meaning he should be a long term solution and the seemingly never ending search for a top 6 winger could finally be over, if he can stay healthy. B's give up a 1st round pick which looks like it should be mid 20's or worse. Axel Andersson is a defense prospect which is the Bruins deepest position throughout the organization and at this point about the only sure thing with him is that he was probably never going to play an NHL game for the Bruins. And David Backes unfortunately just never worked out in Boston and was a $6 million sinkhole against the cap while sitting at home this season and next. Retaining $1.5 million for both those seasons is way cheaper than buying him out in the summer and still means this trade clears $2 million off the books for next season. Could clear space for another trade before the deadline or help with resigning Torey Krug. Probably means a Krieder trade is off the table now that their 1st round pick is gone, but I'm getting tired of giving up stuff for a hired gun that they can't keep beyond the playoffs. Plus, I doubt Backes could have been dumped to the Rangers.
While it'll be hard pressed to ever top the Milan Lucic trade I think this one has the potential to come close.....if he can stay healthy.
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Post by titaneddie on Feb 21, 2020 16:49:24 GMT -5
Having Bergeron/pasta/Marchand locked up for a combined 20 Mil is almost cheating.
I watch every jets game and just bits of pieces of other games so I don't see much of Boston, but I did watch them play the Oilers the night. I like the team toughness. Wish the jets played like when they played you guys coming out of the break all the time. They're going to be a real tough out in the playoffs.
BTW nice of Marchand to go after our "tough guy" ehlers...
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Post by boffo on Feb 21, 2020 17:51:48 GMT -5
Marchand is a "tough guy" at best although my use of quotes is slightly different than your use of quotes. So for a guy that only acts tough to go after a guy who is sarcastically tough it isn't really a mismatch.
Since Pastrnak and Marchand were both fairly recent deals well below market rate at the time I have to assume Bergeron has ascended to that Ray Bourque level of player where the other guys on the team feel he should be getting paid more than they do. It is certainly a nice luxury to have for at least two more seasons when Bergeron's contract is up. In the mean time even without a cap increase next season there's currently $20 million in available cap space with Krug, DeBrusk, and Halak being the only pricey free agents to sign. Hopefully it doesn't leave enough money to shop the open market as that is an area Sweeney has not done well in.
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Post by ErixonStone on Feb 21, 2020 17:54:42 GMT -5
boffo, there is no way the Rangers could take on even half of Backes' contract. Trading for Trouba and signing him to that contract really appears to have been a mistake at this point. If they hadn't done that, they would still have Shattenkirk who would be coming off the books after next year, and his production this year would have been about what Trouba is giving them. Something is seriously amiss with Trouba. I know that adjusting from one system to another takes defensemen some time, and his play is starting to improve, but he isn't the player he was in prior seasons. He's slotting in as a 2nd-pair D who needs a strong partner and doesn't contribute on the power play. That's not a player worth $8M. Trouba has been passed by Adam Fox, and Trouba has been usurped on the PP unit by DeAngelo who moves the puck much better. That Neal Pionk is having a better season - both when compared to Trouba and to his own NYR tenure - is an indictment of the Rangers coaching staff and a testament to the Jets staff. Pionk continues to be put in more advantageous situations (60.1% offensive zone starts) but a player making $8M such as Trouba has to overcome that and drive possession.
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Post by titaneddie on Feb 21, 2020 18:20:01 GMT -5
Hate to say I told ya so, but at the same time I don't mind being that guy!!
Also they deploy pionk almost everywhere. For a stretch last week he was being used almost 27 mins a game. They're not hiding him. I still don't think he's a true top pairing guy, but he's a really good 2nd pairing.
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Post by boffo on Feb 21, 2020 19:05:20 GMT -5
I'm sort of confused with the Rangers. They did the right thing in deciding to rebuild and were open and honest about it with the fanbase. They've made some good moves in clearing veterans for picks and prospects and have a high draft pick to show for a bad season from it. But then they also show that they're still the Rangers and can't avoid the big shiny things like Trouba or Panarin. I know one has worked out well and the other not so much, but are either of them really the sort of player or contract you want to take on at this stage of a rebuild? Another bad finish or two and the high pick that comes along with it would seem better than their current spot at 20th overall. Then there's the additional assets they could get from having so much unused cap space for the next couple of seasons. The Rangers will never be a budget team that can't spend right up to the cap so the ability to take on some salary dumps for picks or prospects would have been huge.
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Post by mrooola on Feb 23, 2020 7:25:52 GMT -5
Toronto has been shaky for a while now. A real roller coaster of a season. Last night they lost 6-3 to a zamboni driver they employ. This team truly deserve nothing. Sell everything!
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Post by boffo on Feb 23, 2020 9:02:57 GMT -5
It's definitely bad that on a day my team loses 9-3 I can still say at least they didn't lose to a 42 year old zamboni driver.
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Post by golferdude1994 on Feb 23, 2020 12:18:22 GMT -5
As someone who is fairly new to hockey but very familiar with other sports, how is playoff seeding determined, is it top 8 in each conference or top 4 in each division?
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Post by mrooola on Feb 23, 2020 13:09:52 GMT -5
As someone who is fairly new to hockey but very familiar with other sports, how is playoff seeding determined, is it top 8 in each conference or top 4 in each division? No. Because hockey is stupid. Top 3 in each division + 2 top scoring team in the conference outside of those 6 regardless of division. Winner of a division will be seeded against a wild card team. |
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Apr 8, 2020 10:43:19 GMT -5
Today would have been the first day of the playoffs. Think about how your team isn't playing today, or tomorrow, or the next day. Now realize you're probably not gonna watch them until the start of next season. Now imagine doing that for 1/3 of your life. Welcome to being a Sabres fan, hockey world!
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