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Post by cplampman on Nov 23, 2019 9:15:58 GMT -5
Babs gone. Lets turn things around... I think Toronto has bigger issues than the coach but they certainly should be better than they have been so far this season. It pains me to say it but I thought they were going to be an absolute beast this year. But I’m pretty sure they have been like a .500 team from like mid to late last year until now. Their roster THIS year is pretty loaded. After this year, I don’t know what they are going to do. Maybe I’m just biased since he gave us the run around, but really never understood why he was so coveted. It’s actually like “bad” he only won one cup with those red wing teams. Yeah tons of playoff births but bounced in the first. (Full disclosure I wish the Sabres could get bounced in the first again lol). Regardless, I’m pretty sour with hockey. Just so fed with up the Sabres. I have no idea what they should do, but just so tired of it. Our GM said he needed to have a “roster surgery” this offseason and hear we are are with same bottom 6, and same D pair playing most minutes. Just really discouraging. Having trouble even watching them. Hopefully something happens soon.... |
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Post by ErixonStone on Nov 23, 2019 23:28:07 GMT -5
Regardless, I’m pretty sour with hockey. Just so fed with up the Sabres. I have no idea what they should do, but just so tired of it. Our GM said he needed to have a “roster surgery” this offseason and hear we are are with same bottom 6, and same D pair playing most minutes. Just really discouraging. Having trouble even watching them. Hopefully something happens soon.... I don't think the Sabres are that far off. They got off to a strong start, but they've really had terrible luck. They missed out on McDavid when Edmonton won the draft lottery, and Eichel isn't the same quality of player. He's still very good, but he isn't a generational talent. Okposo was a very good player when he signed his contract with Buffalo, but has incurred four concussions since then. This year, a quarter into the season, they've got 5 regulars out of the lineup. I didn't understand the Sabres acquisition of Jimmy Vesey from the Rangers. Vesey is an OK player, but he doesn't move the needle enough to warrant trading assets away to acquire. At the end of this season, he's UFA. In fact, if you look at the Sabres' roster and cap situation, they have a ton of players whose contracts run out at the end of this season. If they don't appear in playoff contention come February, it's easy to envision them parting ways with Bogosian and Scandella in exchange for younger players. They need to find a goalie. Ullmark is adequate, and Hutton is already 33. They currently have Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen in the pipeline coming off a very strong performance in last year's U20 IIHF World Junior Championships. As of now, he has a 1.66 GAA and a .930 SV% in the ECHL. The important thing is to hang in there. Eichel is 23. Reinhart is 24. Mittelstadt is 21. Dahlin is 19. Ristolainen is 25. This is a very young team with a lot of elite talent that hasn't hit its prime yet. They've maneuvered into a position to be very flexible after this season, so while this year's roster looks stale, next year's roster might be very different. So far, the Sabres have only 9 NHL players signed for next year, and just 4 NHL players signed for 2021-2022. |
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Post by cplampman on Nov 24, 2019 5:45:19 GMT -5
Regardless, I’m pretty sour with hockey. Just so fed with up the Sabres. I have no idea what they should do, but just so tired of it. Our GM said he needed to have a “roster surgery” this offseason and hear we are are with same bottom 6, and same D pair playing most minutes. Just really discouraging. Having trouble even watching them. Hopefully something happens soon.... I don't think the Sabres are that far off. They got off to a strong start, but they've really had terrible luck. They missed out on McDavid when Edmonton won the draft lottery, and Eichel isn't the same quality of player. He's still very good, but he isn't a generational talent. Okposo was a very good player when he signed his contract with Buffalo, but has incurred four concussions since then. This year, a quarter into the season, they've got 5 regulars out of the lineup. I didn't understand the Sabres acquisition of Jimmy Vesey from the Rangers. Vesey is an OK player, but he doesn't move the needle enough to warrant trading assets away to acquire. At the end of this season, he's UFA. In fact, if you look at the Sabres' roster and cap situation, they have a ton of players whose contracts run out at the end of this season. If they don't appear in playoff contention come February, it's easy to envision them parting ways with Bogosian and Scandella in exchange for younger players. They need to find a goalie. Ullmark is adequate, and Hutton is already 33. They currently have Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen in the pipeline coming off a very strong performance in last year's U20 IIHF World Junior Championships. As of now, he has a 1.66 GAA and a .930 SV% in the ECHL. The important thing is to hang in there. Eichel is 23. Reinhart is 24. Mittelstadt is 21. Dahlin is 19. Ristolainen is 25. This is a very young team with a lot of elite talent that hasn't hit its prime yet. They've maneuvered into a position to be very flexible after this season, so while this year's roster looks stale, next year's roster might be very different. So far, the Sabres have only 9 NHL players signed for next year, and just 4 NHL players signed for 2021-2022. The problem is, from the outside looking in we haven’t been far off for like the last 6 years. The year we got Eichel we had 81 points from 54. Then 78 the next, then 62 points. 76 last year WITH a 10 game win streak. We just have so many guys here that have been here through it all, and we just keep putting them out there expecting different results. Risto for example. Just take a look at all of his advanced stats over the years. It’s just simply not working with him, but he’s out there 25 mins a night. Just move on. He has to have some sort of trade value and even if we completely miss on the trade, I guess I frankly don’t care because it’s just not working anyways. I didn’t hate the Vesey move initially because we just lack any sort of secondary scoring/bottom 6 players and I like taking a risk on a young guy who has put the puck in the net in the past. But yeesh, that hasn’t worked out. A center that could help him score would be nice, but that ain’t Middlestat. Hate Hutton and Robin Lehner now ranks No. 1 among NHL goaltenders in save percentage and goals saved above average this year. Granted he had a lot of off the ice stuff here but like Ryan Oreilly, we get rid of legit guys with NO back up in place. At least if we move Risto, we have Miller, Montour, Jokiharju as right handed Dmen. Your not wrong about the waiting it out though. It sucks because we are wasting years of Eichel and Dahlin’s ELC, but we will be getting some of the crap off the roster soon. I just really don’t have faith that we won’t replace bad with bad if not worse... |
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Post by CiB0RG on Nov 25, 2019 15:16:37 GMT -5
Meanwhile here in Hockeytown... ![]() ![]() Current goal differential -39. |
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Post by lessthanbread on Nov 25, 2019 16:09:46 GMT -5
Meanwhile here in Hockeytown... ![]() ![]() Current goal differential -39. My State of Hockey isn't doing much better... |
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Post by boffo on Nov 25, 2019 17:05:20 GMT -5
I don't think the Sabres are that far off. They got off to a strong start, but they've really had terrible luck. They missed out on McDavid when Edmonton won the draft lottery, and Eichel isn't the same quality of player. He's still very good, but he isn't a generational talent. Okposo was a very good player when he signed his contract with Buffalo, but has incurred four concussions since then. This year, a quarter into the season, they've got 5 regulars out of the lineup. I didn't understand the Sabres acquisition of Jimmy Vesey from the Rangers. Vesey is an OK player, but he doesn't move the needle enough to warrant trading assets away to acquire. At the end of this season, he's UFA. In fact, if you look at the Sabres' roster and cap situation, they have a ton of players whose contracts run out at the end of this season. If they don't appear in playoff contention come February, it's easy to envision them parting ways with Bogosian and Scandella in exchange for younger players. They need to find a goalie. Ullmark is adequate, and Hutton is already 33. They currently have Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen in the pipeline coming off a very strong performance in last year's U20 IIHF World Junior Championships. As of now, he has a 1.66 GAA and a .930 SV% in the ECHL. The important thing is to hang in there. Eichel is 23. Reinhart is 24. Mittelstadt is 21. Dahlin is 19. Ristolainen is 25. This is a very young team with a lot of elite talent that hasn't hit its prime yet. They've maneuvered into a position to be very flexible after this season, so while this year's roster looks stale, next year's roster might be very different. So far, the Sabres have only 9 NHL players signed for next year, and just 4 NHL players signed for 2021-2022. The problem is, from the outside looking in we haven’t been far off for like the last 6 years. The year we got Eichel we had 81 points from 54. Then 78 the next, then 62 points. 76 last year WITH a 10 game win streak. We just have so many guys here that have been here through it all, and we just keep putting them out there expecting different results. Risto for example. Just take a look at all of his advanced stats over the years. It’s just simply not working with him, but he’s out there 25 mins a night. Just move on. He has to have some sort of trade value and even if we completely miss on the trade, I guess I frankly don’t care because it’s just not working anyways. I didn’t hate the Vesey move initially because we just lack any sort of secondary scoring/bottom 6 players and I like taking a risk on a young guy who has put the puck in the net in the past. But yeesh, that hasn’t worked out. A center that could help him score would be nice, but that ain’t Middlestat. Hate Hutton and Robin Lehner now ranks No. 1 among NHL goaltenders in save percentage and goals saved above average this year. Granted he had a lot of off the ice stuff here but like Ryan Oreilly, we get rid of legit guys with NO back up in place. At least if we move Risto, we have Miller, Montour, Jokiharju as right handed Dmen. Your not wrong about the waiting it out though. It sucks because we are wasting years of Eichel and Dahlin’s ELC, but we will be getting some of the crap off the roster soon. I just really don’t have faith that we won’t replace bad with bad if not worse... To me Buffalo sort of feels like Carolina. Huge run of playoff DNQ's. 1 or 2 good higher draft choices out of it, but mostly finishes that stuck them in that annoying 2nd tier of prospects where you find the good but not great players. A roster that looks good enough to compete but then disappoint for another 2 or 3 seasons. Then suddenly everything clicks together and they become a serious threat. The Sabres are maybe about 1 season into that 2 or 3 seasons of disappointment prior to the breakout stretch. Of course this is a Buffalo sports team we're talking about here so they usually find their own totally unique way to crush the souls of everyone who supports them, so really who knows what the future holds. |
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Nov 26, 2019 18:07:58 GMT -5
The problem is, from the outside looking in we haven’t been far off for like the last 6 years. The year we got Eichel we had 81 points from 54. Then 78 the next, then 62 points. 76 last year WITH a 10 game win streak. We just have so many guys here that have been here through it all, and we just keep putting them out there expecting different results. Risto for example. Just take a look at all of his advanced stats over the years. It’s just simply not working with him, but he’s out there 25 mins a night. Just move on. He has to have some sort of trade value and even if we completely miss on the trade, I guess I frankly don’t care because it’s just not working anyways. I didn’t hate the Vesey move initially because we just lack any sort of secondary scoring/bottom 6 players and I like taking a risk on a young guy who has put the puck in the net in the past. But yeesh, that hasn’t worked out. A center that could help him score would be nice, but that ain’t Middlestat. Hate Hutton and Robin Lehner now ranks No. 1 among NHL goaltenders in save percentage and goals saved above average this year. Granted he had a lot of off the ice stuff here but like Ryan Oreilly, we get rid of legit guys with NO back up in place. At least if we move Risto, we have Miller, Montour, Jokiharju as right handed Dmen. Your not wrong about the waiting it out though. It sucks because we are wasting years of Eichel and Dahlin’s ELC, but we will be getting some of the crap off the roster soon. I just really don’t have faith that we won’t replace bad with bad if not worse... To me Buffalo sort of feels like Carolina. Huge run of playoff DNQ's. 1 or 2 good higher draft choices out of it, but mostly finishes that stuck them in that annoying 2nd tier of prospects where you find the good but not great players. A roster that looks good enough to compete but then disappoint for another 2 or 3 seasons. Then suddenly everything clicks together and they become a serious threat. The Sabres are maybe about 1 season into that 2 or 3 seasons of disappointment prior to the breakout stretch. Of course this is a Buffalo sports team we're talking about here so they usually find their own totally unique way to crush the souls of everyone who supports them, so really who knows what the future holds. You just summed up Buffalo sports perfectly. The problem isn't getting second tier prospects, it's what they've done with assets they did have. Regier started the rebuild, gutted the team, built up a bank worth of assets, and then was immediately fired. Which he should have been, I'm not going to argue that. Then Murray comes in gives away the bank for O'reilly, Kane, and Lehner. This team was way more than 3 players away at the time. And Murray, the scouting guru, traded young players and picks to get 2 guys that gave up on their former teams. Then he rightfully got fired. Meanwhile Ristolainen, Eichel, and Reinhart, and soon Midlestadt are all on to the second or third contracts, and Botteril is stock piling defenseman like you can dress 12 a night. He's on his second coach in 3 years and has basically the same roster today as he did at the opening night last year (what's the definition of insanity?). The problems of this team start at the top, Pegulas have to get someone in here to put a real hockey team together before it's too late. I don't think things are just gonna click. |
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Post by boffo on Feb 12, 2020 18:36:25 GMT -5
Trade deadline coming up and stretch drive of the season as we head to the playoffs. So how are things going?
Bruins have made it look fairly easy for most of the season, except in shootouts and against Detroit. Fortunately neither of those will be a concern in the playoffs. Still need a 2nd line winger but otherwise there aren’t too many glaring holes. The standard Boston v. Toronto first round with Boston having home ice is looking quite possible, to no one’s surprise although it is less locked in already than it was the last two seasons.
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Post by lessthanbread on Feb 12, 2020 19:11:35 GMT -5
Wild need..... (character limit reached)
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Post by boffo on Feb 13, 2020 5:48:58 GMT -5
Wild need..... (character limit reached) About half their team to retire because they're older and on big money contracts that can't or won't be traded. |
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Feb 13, 2020 7:39:45 GMT -5
I won't take too much more of losing from the Sabres before Eichel says he wants to be traded out of here. A Top 10 talent in the league won't want much more of this.
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Post by titaneddie on Feb 13, 2020 9:41:34 GMT -5
Thinking if the jets can grab a second pairing D without giving up much future it'd be enough to grab a wild card spot. Anything after that would be a bonus.
As for extending Maurice, I really don't get it. I do think he's a good coach and I don't blame him for this year, but the meltdown last year with that roster was inexcusable and should've cost him his job. Think it's just time (for better or worse) for a new voice and some change in philosophy.
Oh well, hoping we sneak in and see some playoff action at least.
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Post by CiB0RG on Feb 13, 2020 10:24:54 GMT -5
Trade deadline coming up and stretch drive of the season as we head to the playoffs. So how are things going? Bruins have made it look fairly easy for most of the season, except in shootouts and against Detroit. Fortunately neither of those will be a concern in the playoffs. Still need a 2nd line winger but otherwise there aren’t too many glaring holes. The standard Boston v. Toronto first round with Boston having home ice is looking quite possible, to no one’s surprise although it is less locked in already than it was the last two seasons. At least Detroit is being a pesky bottomfeeder for someone lol. I was at the Wings/Bruins game on Sunday wondering how the wings were somehow staying in the game when Boston controlled the puck seemingly 90% of the time. Not to mention having 40 shots on net vs. Detroit's 20. Head scratcher. |
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Post by lessthanbread on Feb 14, 2020 12:14:56 GMT -5
Well... bye bye Boudreau
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Post by ddixjr509 on Feb 14, 2020 13:35:45 GMT -5
I suppose if your favorite team- The Flyers for example, are in the Metro Division- you hate how this playoff battle is playing out.
a bad loss followed up by a good win, followed by a bad loss, and a good win isn't going to get it done.
was in Miami for the good win last night against the Panthers... and going tmrw to Tampa- and expecting a dud.
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