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Post by North47 on Oct 29, 2018 5:47:15 GMT -5
I'd tuck your head in mate, having wee digs at members like cathalos1991 isn't a good start to your time here. If he's gonna have an opinion I'm sure he's adult enough to have others critique it. I'm here to play some virtual golf, not hear people complain about a free service. Have a wonderful Sunday afternoon. Then you 'd be better off just sticking to playing virtual golf, and not getting smart with long time members here mate! Only a member a wet day and getting lippy with others? You won't win any gold stars with a bad attitude on this forum. There's another fairly new member popping up in a lot of threads as well acting like Billy Big B*****ks, not doing himself any favours either. |
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Oct 29, 2018 10:01:21 GMT -5
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Post by Zuzert on Oct 29, 2018 16:58:54 GMT -5
If he's gonna have an opinion I'm sure he's adult enough to have others critique it. I'm here to play some virtual golf, not hear people complain about a free service. Have a wonderful Sunday afternoon. Then you 'd be better off just sticking to playing virtual golf, and not getting smart with long time members here mate! Only a member a wet day and getting lippy with others? You won't win any gold stars with a bad attitude on this forum. There's another fairly new member popping up in a lot of threads as well acting like Billy Big B*****ks, not doing himself any favours either. I'm not trying to "win any gold stars" as you put it. I'm calling it like I see it, new or not. Seems to be a lot of complaining from people who think they are entitled to a pristine, zero error service. Guys behind the scenes are working hard under VOLUNTEER hours and people still give them sh%$. That's not right in my books, and if you think that the format doesn't work or the platform isn't how you'd like it to be then I'm sure the developers don't give a sh%$ about you leaving. In fact, probably better for the community as I see it. I'll never be an ass for the sake of being an ass, just not my style. My biggest pet peeve are complainers so maybe that's why I'm more outspoken when I see it. |
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Post by cathalos1991 on Oct 29, 2018 19:10:06 GMT -5
Then you 'd be better off just sticking to playing virtual golf, and not getting smart with long time members here mate! Only a member a wet day and getting lippy with others? You won't win any gold stars with a bad attitude on this forum. There's another fairly new member popping up in a lot of threads as well acting like Billy Big B*****ks, not doing himself any favours either. I'm not trying to "win any gold stars" as you put it. I'm calling it like I see it, new or not. Seems to be a lot of complaining from people who think they are entitled to a pristine, zero error service. Guys behind the scenes are working hard under VOLUNTEER hours and people still give them sh%$. That's not right in my books, and if you think that the format doesn't work or the platform isn't how you'd like it to be then I'm sure the developers don't give a sh%$ about you leaving. In fact, probably better for the community as I see it. I'll never be an ass for the sake of being an ass, just not my style. My biggest pet peeve are complainers so maybe that's why I'm more outspoken when I see it. I am a volunteer - who gives up there time for the betterment of the TGCT community 😂😂 All those courses you get to play that are approved by TGCT or any of those courses that get selected for tournaments, I'm part of the team that gets all that ready. |
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Post by Zuzert on Oct 29, 2018 20:01:14 GMT -5
I'm not trying to "win any gold stars" as you put it. I'm calling it like I see it, new or not. Seems to be a lot of complaining from people who think they are entitled to a pristine, zero error service. Guys behind the scenes are working hard under VOLUNTEER hours and people still give them sh%$. That's not right in my books, and if you think that the format doesn't work or the platform isn't how you'd like it to be then I'm sure the developers don't give a sh%$ about you leaving. In fact, probably better for the community as I see it. I'll never be an ass for the sake of being an ass, just not my style. My biggest pet peeve are complainers so maybe that's why I'm more outspoken when I see it. I am a volunteer - who gives up there time for the betterment of the TGCT community 😂😂 All those courses you get to play that are approved by TGCT or any of those courses that get selected for tournaments, I'm part of the team that gets all that ready. Appreciate the clarification. So shouldn't you understand how hard they are working and be aware that they are trying to do what's in the best interest for the community? I do appreciate your time and what you add to the community then. My apologies if I came off as a dick but maybe I've had enough of certain types of responses within this forum, even if I've only been a member for about a month. |
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Post by North47 on Oct 29, 2018 20:32:59 GMT -5
Then you 'd be better off just sticking to playing virtual golf, and not getting smart with long time members here mate! Only a member a wet day and getting lippy with others? You won't win any gold stars with a bad attitude on this forum. There's another fairly new member popping up in a lot of threads as well acting like Billy Big B*****ks, not doing himself any favours either. I'm not trying to "win any gold stars" as you put it. I'm calling it like I see it, new or not. Seems to be a lot of complaining from people who think they are entitled to a pristine, zero error service. Guys behind the scenes are working hard under VOLUNTEER hours and people still give them sh%$. That's not right in my books, and if you think that the format doesn't work or the platform isn't how you'd like it to be then I'm sure the developers don't give a sh%$ about you leaving. In fact, probably better for the community as I see it. I'll never be an ass for the sake of being an ass, just not my style. My biggest pet peeve are complainers so maybe that's why I'm more outspoken when I see it. I've been a member of this community for since February/March 2015. I'm well aware of the fact that the guys who run everything volunteer their free time to do so. A lot of people are just frustrated with what has happened the last couple of weeks, as well as the fact that...if you see your scores have been removed before it's noticed that well over half the field has been affected, you're entitled to be a bit upset/angry about it. Especially now the way that HB have done the swing feedback etc, that if your swing doesn't hit the top of the swingplane regularly, you are very likely to get flagged by the API for fair play. A lot of dedicate most of our playtime in game to TGCT, and it's the main reason why we keep playing. We know there's a bug in the coding when scores are being gathered, but as I mentioned. You see your scores are gone, but everyone elses are still showimg at that time, and then you receive an email about it. Thankfully the permanent fix has been pushed through now though, so hopefully we won't have this happen again. |
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Post by martbloke on Oct 30, 2018 6:23:22 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I'm happy with the API picking up those that don't follow all the way through. To me yes it is a way to slightly manipulate the game into straightening your shot as far as I know. If you travel a shorter distance from the start of your follow through, of course it's easier to keep it straighter than travelling the full distance. I mean, if you actually play golf, you do complete a follow through with your club rather than stopping straight after you hit the ball, no?
Although it may not seem natural for those who seem to have gotten used to a small follow through to get that straightness, I don't really see it being too difficult adapting your game to complete a full follow through as the game has intended it to be. If this starts to mess with your shots with them going off target because your swing is now not so straight or your tempo is now off slightly, then doesn't this then just mean you haven't mastered the game like you thought beforehand? Heaven forbid me using such a word but......just requires a bit of practise in that case.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 7:15:24 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I'm happy with the API picking up those that don't follow all the way through. To me yes it is a way to slightly manipulate the game into straightening your shot as far as I know. If you travel a shorter distance from the start of your follow through, of course it's easier to keep it straighter than travelling the full distance. I mean, if you actually play golf, you do complete a follow through with your club rather than stopping straight after you hit the ball, no? Although it may not seem natural for those who seem to have gotten used to a small follow through to get that straightness, I don't really see it being too difficult adapting your game to complete a full follow through as the game has intended it to be. If this starts to mess with your shots with them going off target because your swing is now not so straight or your tempo is now off slightly, then doesn't this then just mean you haven't mastered the game like you thought beforehand? Heaven forbid me using such a word but......just requires a bit of practise in that case. I've been swinging this way playing video golf games since 2010/2011, so the manipulation argument doesn't hold water for me as nothing has changed from other versions of this franchise and others in the past.
The comparison to IRL golf never really works. Also, API isn't exactly picking off people JUST because of the short swing. It also has to do with limited dispersion as well as some shots that may or may not get counted.
I think I know a thing or two about practice, btw.
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Post by cathalos1991 on Oct 30, 2018 7:23:04 GMT -5
have literally just been on the range and watching my lines and essentially the line stops halfway on the follow through. The only person I can really compare to IRL that has a follow through that short is Tommy Fleetwood. Now we can't compare to real life because that's just not possible to replicate, just throwing my 2 cents in there.
My approach to golf games has never wavered in the roughly 15 years that I've been playing with an analog swing, I do get that it's not just the short swing that it's more than likely that along with everything else. But I'm playing rounds and my swing is so crooked, it seems to get back to the centre around where the club makes contact with the ball but then goes all arseways again.
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Post by martbloke on Oct 30, 2018 7:53:34 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I'm happy with the API picking up those that don't follow all the way through. To me yes it is a way to slightly manipulate the game into straightening your shot as far as I know. If you travel a shorter distance from the start of your follow through, of course it's easier to keep it straighter than travelling the full distance. I mean, if you actually play golf, you do complete a follow through with your club rather than stopping straight after you hit the ball, no? Although it may not seem natural for those who seem to have gotten used to a small follow through to get that straightness, I don't really see it being too difficult adapting your game to complete a full follow through as the game has intended it to be. If this starts to mess with your shots with them going off target because your swing is now not so straight or your tempo is now off slightly, then doesn't this then just mean you haven't mastered the game like you thought beforehand? Heaven forbid me using such a word but......just requires a bit of practise in that case. I've been swinging this way playing video golf games since 2010/2011, so the manipulation argument doesn't hold water for me as nothing has changed from other versions of this franchise and others in the past.
The comparison to IRL golf never really works. Also, API isn't exactly picking off people JUST because of the short swing. It also has to do with limited dispersion as well as some shots that may or may not get counted. I think I know a thing or two about practice, btw.
I get it's not the only thing being picked up but it is 1 - maybe a variation of this with specific rules in place perhaps as I'm certain some of my shots have a short follow through purely because my finger has slipped off the stick. I don't know for sure on exactly how this is all programmed and to judge what is fair and what is not. By "fair" of course I don't mean you are cheating if you are pulled up of course as they have mentioned this is the case which I fully accept as it could just be hardware related outside of user control. I think that if you look at calling the game a sim trying to model the real world sport of golf which they are doing, then whether it works or not, you have to compare it to IRL golf otherwise it's not a sim and might as well be an arcade game with TW spin in mid-air mechanics. I still feel that people that choose do a short follow through after the centre point would gain an advantage (however small this is) over others due to the shorter distance travelled making the swing straighter (potentially) with no affect on distance. IRL if this happened, yes you could shoot straighter (I think - I'm not too sure if that actually works IRL as I have not tried it) but at least you would expect a less than full shot and distance penalised which this is not done in game considering backswing is where your distance is mainly controlled in game not follow through. |
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Post by martbloke on Oct 30, 2018 7:56:33 GMT -5
have literally just been on the range and watching my lines and essentially the line stops halfway on the follow through. The only person I can really compare to IRL that has a follow through that short is Tommy Fleetwood. Now we can't compare to real life because that's just not possible to replicate, just throwing my 2 cents in there. My approach to golf games has never wavered in the roughly 15 years that I've been playing with an analog swing, I do get that it's not just the short swing that it's more than likely that along with everything else. But I'm playing rounds and my swing is so crooked, it seems to get back to the centre around where the club makes contact with the ball but then goes all arseways again. Yep Tommy could be considered an example - nice spot. However, he still has a follow through albeit stopping probably 70-75% through. I actually really like his swing and wish I could replicate it  Thing is, he is accurate but I don't believe with that swing that he is one of the bigger hitters out there perhaps because of the swing. Correct me if I am wrong as I am just speculating without researching his stats. If this is the case though, he has a penalty with his swing (or his upper body strength, lol) in distance whereas in game you don't get that with a short follow through. |
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Post by cathalos1991 on Oct 30, 2018 7:59:25 GMT -5
have literally just been on the range and watching my lines and essentially the line stops halfway on the follow through. The only person I can really compare to IRL that has a follow through that short is Tommy Fleetwood. Now we can't compare to real life because that's just not possible to replicate, just throwing my 2 cents in there. My approach to golf games has never wavered in the roughly 15 years that I've been playing with an analog swing, I do get that it's not just the short swing that it's more than likely that along with everything else. But I'm playing rounds and my swing is so crooked, it seems to get back to the centre around where the club makes contact with the ball but then goes all arseways again. Yep Tommy could be considered an example - nice spot. However, he still has a follow through albeit stopping probably 70-75% through. I actually really like his swing and wish I could replicate it Thing is, he is accurate but I don't believe with that swing that he is one of the bigger hitters out there perhaps because of the swing. Correct me if I am wrong as I am just speculating without researching his stats. If this is the case though, he has a penalty with his swing (or his upper body strength, lol) in distance whereas in game you don't get that with a short follow through. he's definitely not the longest, but he works on his hip rotation in order to generate any power that could be lost through a sawn off follow through that doesn't overly compromise the control he has - which is exactly why we cannot compare TGC to real life 😂😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 8:03:44 GMT -5
Did you get pinged Bob? Haven’t really followed ‘shortswinggate’, figured it was mainly newbs.
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Post by Cyclerob on Oct 30, 2018 8:07:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that the amount of pressure that you apply to the stick affects the way your swing is registered by the game. I personally apply very light pressure on it and even if I exagerate my follow through by hitting the plastic at the end of it, it still doesn't always register as completed in the HUD. Seems like a crap shoot to me. Trying to adjust, but it's really screws up my swing consistancy, my confidence playing tournaments and my enjoyment of this game. If I want to play here, I now have to make my swing look uglier on purpose. That's really f-up! All this because of a stupid HB decision! Grrr....
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Oct 30, 2018 8:10:19 GMT -5
You guys and your pressure sticks. That's what the wife is for. What a bunch of cheats |
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