Tempo

[csabo17]

Is it how fast you actually push/pull the stick? Or does it have to do with how long you pause at the top of the swing? I am always getting a slow backswing costing me yards. But i cant figure out how to pull the stick back any faster.

[TimB]

I don't know. It's a mystery to me. It seems that it's tied to the pause or lack there of in between the backswing and downswing.

For me I feel like I am not even pausing, its all one fluid motion. Yet my usual miss is fast/perfect. And now i'm noticing a lot of 95% power.

Pro clubs I can get perfect/perfect most the time, master clubs it's a lot of fast/perfect and is very frustrating. It's causing me to hook badly.

[rob4590]

Backswing speed should be thought of as 'length of backswing' - if you rush the backswing (so it's short) then it registers as FAST, if you take too long between starting the backswing and starting the downswing, it registers as SLOW.

The problem is that the animation on-screen may not be exactly sync-ed with your movement of the stick / mouse - so if you are getting bad backswing tempo, you need to start the forward movement either earlier or later than you think.

(Backswing = slow - start the downswing earlier, backswing = fast, take more time till you start swinging down)

[GW_Hope]

This game needs another feedback. Such as and Ealrly/Late transition. To me it feels tempo and transition are combined and it’s somewhat counter intuitive

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Aug 31, 2018 6:17:08 GMT -5 GW_Hope said:

This game needs another feedback. Such as and Ealrly/Late transition. To me it feels tempo and transition are combined and it’s somewhat counter intuitive

The backswing meter in the lower lift is pretty much a top of the backswing/transition meter.  Middle of the blue is perfect transition.  Tending towards the middle left is a slightly fast backswing, and then out of the blue area even closer to the middle left gives a fast (or even very fast) backswing (is that possible?).  The closer the arrow points towards the bottom is the slow area.

[GW_Hope]

Aug 31, 2018 8:09:51 GMT -5 @swaeromotion said:

Aug 31, 2018 6:17:08 GMT -5 GW_Hope said:

This game needs another feedback. Such as and Ealrly/Late transition. To me it feels tempo and transition are combined and it’s somewhat counter intuitive

The backswing meter in the lower lift is pretty much a top of the backswing/transition meter.  Middle of the blue is perfect transition.  Tending towards the middle left is a slightly fast backswing, and then out of the blue area even closer to the middle left gives a fast (or even very fast) backswing (is that possible?).  The closer the arrow points towards the bottom is the slow area.

Makes some sense but there something missing because if I do my normal backswing transition(many slow backswing) but slam the stick forward I can get a fast backswing. I think the movement catches up with the lagged transition if that makes sense. It’s just very misleading to me.

[YachtRocker]

I'm usually hitting a fast/perfect on master clubs but damned if I don't hit the very fast/perfect quite a bit also. Downswing I'm pretty good its the damn back-swing where i'm having inconsistency.

So let me get this right, it's the transition between back-swing and downswing where back-swing registers?  It actually has nothing to do with how fast your moving the stick on the controller, which I'm using Xbox controller.

[GW_Hope]

Aug 31, 2018 9:16:44 GMT -5 YachtRocker said:

I'm usually hitting a fast/perfect on master clubs but damned if I don't hit the very fast/perfect quite a bit also. Downswing I'm pretty good its the damn back-swing where i'm having inconsistency.

So let me get this right, it's the transition between back-swing and downswing where back-swing registers?  It actually has nothing to do with how fast your moving the stick on the controller, which I'm using Xbox controller.

Thats my dilemma. It acts like both

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Aug 31, 2018 9:16:44 GMT -5 YachtRocker said:

I'm usually hitting a fast/perfect on master clubs but damned if I don't hit the very fast/perfect quite a bit also. Downswing I'm pretty good its the damn back-swing where i'm having inconsistency.

So let me get this right, it's the transition between back-swing and downswing where back-swing registers?  It actually has nothing to do with how fast your moving the stick on the controller, which I'm using Xbox controller.

It has nothing to do with the speed at which you bring the stick back, that I do know.

You have to get the backswing all the way to the full apex, but also not pause at the top much at all, if any.  It's more timing than tempo, IMO.  If you start the downswing before the club hits the apex, a fast backswing will occur.  If you pause too much at the top/apex of the swing then a slow backswing will occur.  A pretty fluid transition at the top between those scenarios gives you the perfect backswing.

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I get a Fast backswing most of the time but i can work around that and i know why i am doing it but its the Fast, Slow and Very Fast (specifically with chips/fops) downswings that boggle my mind. I feel like i am swinging basically the same most of the time yet results vary so much. When i feel like i have swung it well its a fast hook or slice. I just don't get how to play this game

[GW_Hope]

Here is what I know. I can get fast/perfect/slow backswing results in two ways. First by transition timing and secondlly by how fast I push forward for my downswing.
Not sure is it’s correct but I’ve messed with it and seems correct.
Oddly the forward downswing speed doesn’t affect downswing in game as far i can tell so far. Like I said I wish we were shown or told exactly what affects this. What they gave us for feedback really isn’t any better than 2 in my opinion except for the backswing line

[xEB50x]

Interesting, I'm the opposite of you guys, I get Perfect backswing (90%) of the time, but I'm Perfect (50%) Fast (25%) and Slow (25%) on my downswings. That's what's getting me early on in the game. Obviously those percentages can fluxgate, but the issue is I have not found the tempo on downswing yet.

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Aug 31, 2018 11:00:45 GMT -5 GW_Hope said:

Here is what I know. I can get fast/perfect/slow backswing results in two ways. First by transition timing and secondlly by how fast I push forward for my downswing.
Not sure is it’s correct but I’ve messed with it and seems correct.
Oddly the forward downswing speed doesn’t affect downswing in game as far i can tell so far. Like I said I wish we were shown or told exactly what affects this. What they gave us for feedback really isn’t any better than 2 in my opinion except for the backswing line

My findings are quite a bit different.

The downswing will have zero influence on the backswing tempo.

The downswing speed very much has to do with the downswing tempo.  Now that I can see that arrow on the side of the feedback circle, and how far it is off-center, I can adjust after a slow or fast downswing.  I can now actually start to tell when a swing is fast or slow before I even look.

I think those arrows on the side are a huge help and great addition, but again, that is IMO.

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Aug 31, 2018 11:16:20 GMT -5 xEB50x said:

Interesting, I'm the opposite of you guys, I get Perfect backswing (90%) of the time, but I'm Perfect (50%) Fast (25%) and Slow (25%) on my downswings. That's what's getting me early on in the game. Obviously those percentages can fluxgate, but the issue is I have not found the tempo on downswing yet.

I get almost all perfect backswings.  I am only trying to add to the conversation about them to hopefully help others in figuring out the "whys" so adjusting is easier.

[bassman70]

Guys and gals I'm in the same boat. I really really think I'm not going to last in the PGA for long if I keep playing like I'm playing. I can get a fast/perfect swing nearly every time. The problem with that is, that swing hits the ball further than the listed yardage. For example, if your SW hits 106 which is based on a P/P swing, the ball will actually travel about 113 in the air with F/P. That REALLY makes it hard to get the distance right. SO, the real problem comes in when you think you're going to hit F/P and then you hit P/P...uh oh, now your really short. I actually hit a 5i like 230 yards with a F/P CRAZY! So, I'm really struggling with that. I'm only managing -5 to -7 on most rounds. I have gone low like -11 or -12 once or twice, but that's just not the norm. I think I'm going to have to figure out the yardage for all my clubs with the F/P swing so I have a much better idea of where the ball is going.

The other thing I did today was switch from my old controller which is my baby with TGC 2..not so much in TGC 2019. I tried the new controller this morning and was at least hitting the ball fairly straight which was nice. Still only managed -7 on my PGA event.

I know we're only going on three days, so I guess I shouldn't expect but so much improvement. When TGC 2 was released I was shooting over par for the first day or so, and I ended up doing very well with that game.

I played my first exhibition event last night and was doing very well, -6 through nine...then the back nine came and I ended up -3...meanwhile, Brad was -9. I got to round 2 and the torture continued only going for -4 and a whopping -7 for the tourney. Brad was -22!!

I'm really curious to see how I do on the next tourney with the new controller.

Anyway, just hang in there everyone. It's a struggle for sure and being a really good player on TGC 1 and TGC 2 makes it even harder on me as I'm sure it does for anyone that played well on those games.

Bottom line, I will have fun with this even if I go down to the Web or lower. I just want to have some fun and am really looking forward to playing on line since that seems to be working much better than last year.