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Post by stokie1947 on Apr 23, 2018 5:49:52 GMT -5
i have started using Tour Clubs regularly i must say it is a struggle mind you i am finding TGC 2 much tougher than TGC 1 so much that i have gone from Web to CC-D
however i feel that putting is the most important aspect of the game example looking at my latest round on the tour i shot a -5 compared to the leader who got -14 [the mind boggles]
looking at the putting stats mine was 31 putts to his 20 some difference and some improvement needed by me
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Post by greyosprey on Apr 24, 2018 3:16:23 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with using Player Clubs, if that provides you fun and enjoyment with the game. I used to use Players Clubs for some time, but got stuck at CC-C. Switching to Tour Clubs allowed me to move from CC-C to CC-A. The added length off the tee, and shorter clubs into greens, especially firm ones, is huge. You will also notice a significant difference in windy rds.
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Post by iorwerth on Apr 24, 2018 4:23:32 GMT -5
I have found that at best with tour clubs I shoot around 2-3 worse than with player clubs at the moment. The few holes I benefit from having longer distance don't outweigh the loss of control and wayward shots that result from the tour clubs with my current ability. I think that the tour clubs will bring greater benefits on some course over others, but the advantages of the extra distances on the CC-AM courses is probably minimal.
Still going to go on practicing with the tour clubs, as it would be fun to get good with them, but for competitive rounds at the moment, it seems foolish to move off the player clubs at the present.
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Post by ErixonStone on Apr 24, 2018 9:34:57 GMT -5
I have found that at best with tour clubs I shoot around 2-3 worse than with player clubs at the moment. The few holes I benefit from having longer distance don't outweigh the loss of control and wayward shots that result from the tour clubs with my current ability. I think that the tour clubs will bring greater benefits on some course over others, but the advantages of the extra distances on the CC-AM courses is probably minimal. Still going to go on practicing with the tour clubs, as it would be fun to get good with them, but for competitive rounds at the moment, it seems foolish to move off the player clubs at the present. As you might expect, courses and tees scheduled for CC-Am are catered towards the Player clubs (and are playable with Standard clubs) in order to make the Tours accessible to any level of player. On CC-Pro, we choose a mix of courses - some favor Tour clubs while others favor Player clubs. As you move up through the ranks, Tour clubs are favored by most courses. Still, with very few exceptions, it's possible to score well with Player clubs on every course, even at the PGA level. As you play the game, you'll start to improve. Once you are able to reliably keep your swing close to the center of the cone and are reliably able to achieve perfect/perfect tempo with Player clubs, then it's time to graduate to Tour clubs. Everyone has their own way of getting to that point. Some players prefer to use Player clubs until they reach it, while others prefer to grind out with Tour clubs until they get it right. Personally, I took the former route - and made a controller purchase along the way - and it took me about 7 months to feel confident with Tour clubs. Other players swear by the method of using nothing but the Tour clubs, figuring they'll learn to control them faster that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 10:17:07 GMT -5
I have never used anything but the tour clubs. Never even tried the players.
My biggest issue with tour clubs is mid irons. I tend to push and pull them. Beyond that I hit most shots pretty straight.
I wish more people would turn off the shot feedback. It makes the game so much better.
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Post by lessangster on Apr 24, 2018 14:45:55 GMT -5
I have never used anything but the tour clubs. Never even tried the players. My biggest issue with tour clubs is mid irons. I tend to push and pull them. Beyond that I hit most shots pretty straight. I wish more people would turn off the shot feedback. It makes the game so much better. I can normally get away with the driver off the tee using Tour Clubs I just allow for the draw I normally get but just lately I’ve been having trouble with slow downswings on the irons on approach shots. The trouble is I’ve been setting up for my normal draw shot into the flag but the slow downswings have been causing a fade so I’ve ended up quite a bit right of the flag or green. If I set up aiming left to allow for the slow downswing fade I start hitting it straight and miss left. This game doesn’t reward you for missing both ways. |
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Post by edi_vedder on Apr 24, 2018 18:55:46 GMT -5
Very. More seriously, I've always advocated starting with Tour, staying with Tour, and playing nothing else - but that's just me 
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 3:05:20 GMT -5
Well that all depends.
How much discretionary money do you have to spend on new controllers?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 3:10:19 GMT -5
My experience was I started with tour clubs and stuck with them for a LONG time. Then realised I was never going to get good at them whether it be a local connection issue or my inability to hit straight.
Went back to player clubs and enjoy it a lot more.
As for the par 5s. When you realise that birdie on every par 5 regardless of club choice is easily achievable then you will start to benefit. Risking making it in 2 for an eagle chance is an option sure but it also brings into play all the associated risks that the designers put on the par 5s.
Sometimes a layup and a 55 yd pitch to 2 feet is better than a 40 foot down hill putt or chip from the rough.
Up to each individual.
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Post by Generic_Casual on May 3, 2018 18:29:57 GMT -5
Tour Clubs are sssshhhiiittttt!! 😏😏
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 21:16:08 GMT -5
Tour Clubs are sssshhhiiittttt!! 😏😏 Quitter! |
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Post by pc17 on May 6, 2018 4:03:51 GMT -5
I've just moved back to the Tour Clubs for the 4th time. Each time I tried these clubs I felt pretty comfortable with them in the beginning, but then found my swing would gradually deteriorate to a point where I felt I wasn't in control, and would then move back to Player Clubs.
But now, I just got to point in the game that there was no excitement anymore hitting the fairway almost every time with Player Clubs, it just wasn't natural. I'm certainly finding life a bit tougher now, but at the same time more rewarding. My only gripe is that the game hits me with too many slow downswings, which is causing my ball to slice right. The annoying thing, is that I can hit the next shot with the exact same swing and receive a fast downswing. But at least I know I'm not on my own on that score, so hopefully I'll be sticking with the Tour Clubs from now on. So if any of you guys never see on the leader board, I've not gone anywhere, I'm just not good enough yet!!!
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Post by gdog on May 7, 2018 6:49:24 GMT -5
I started tgc2 with tour clubs and had mixed results, made it up to pga and then dropped down to euro.
I don't play nearly as much as I used to and I think this is the main reason behind my increasing problems with tour clubs.
I recently dropped down to player clubs as I was struggling so much and couldn't put myself or my stream viewers through it anymore lol. It's definitely increased my enjoyment of the game as well as my confidence. I plan to move back up to tour clubs in a few weeks if I'm still getting improvements in my swing while using player clubs.
Currently for me 20-30yards shorter drives are way better than 20yards off the fairway in heavy rough.
I find with tour clubs as soon as it starts going wrong I just start overthinking everything. The controller will start feeling alien to me. I'll lose confidence and the banana hooks and fast downswings start cropping up, which is really hard for me to shake during tour rounds.
Play around. You can easily make it to the higher tours with player clubs. I shot a 61 (-11) on round 2 of this weeks euro event. Would I have shot that with tour clubs at the moment? No chance.
Yeah par 5s are a lot tougher to reach in 2 now. But tbh that's probably best for my health, less rochers I have to eat.
Practice rounds and driving range practice is all well and good but until you whip them out in a tournament setting I don't think you get the real experience of tour clubs. May be different for others.
Last thing, there's no shame in using player clubs.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 6:59:16 GMT -5
I will most likely wait until the next game. I can't play well with any set with tempo and shot direction being a problem with Tour and Player sets.
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Post by mde8965 on May 7, 2018 10:07:19 GMT -5
Tour clubs are so much fun when you are "in the zone" which it seems that most of us all experience for varying amounts of time. But when it all falls apart and you just cannot even fathom how you used to hit straight with tour clubs, or even hit in the cone three times in a row for that matter, that the game becomes a sh%$ show and you just want to find something else to do with your time.
Right now I am in one of my "in the zone" periods. I am able to hit (with tour clubs) all but maybe 2-3 shots per round in the cone, and about 3/4 of those are in the middle half of the cone. My confidence is up...and I cannot wait to get done with work and chores to play a couple rounds. For the past few months I have been putting a little white dot or line on the controller with a paint pen indicating center on the back swing. More recently I started using those stick on rubber grips for the Sony PS4 controller handles. The ones that look like strips of tape. Except I purposely only put it on the left grip and I purposely put it on crooked to give me a guide as to where to hold the controller with my left hand so the controller I cocked to the left about 30 degrees. I swing with my right thumb). Reason for doing that is because the natural back and forth movement of your thumb is not straight up ad down by ride to side at an angle (30 degrees???). Anyway, looking at the controller on the backswing aiming for my paint mark, transitioning to eyes on the screen for the downswing letting my thumb/muscle memory figure out how to push forward. Making sure not to follow through with the forward swing, just get it started in that direction. Following through introduces inconsistency and possible fast downswings.
Not saying the above as a "you should do this"... but it works for me at the moment. I will probably be back to being lost and dropping down to player clubs again three weeks from now.
When you guys are going through one of those "I cannot hit anything straight" periods, if you are like me, your whole demeanor changes. For instance, I no longer think "I can't wait to play a couple rounds tonight" instead thinking "Oh yeah, I guess I have to finish that damned event tonight, but I need to get that out of the way quick". When I go to swing, my thumb twitches on the back swing and I am too hurried to get a P/P instead getting fast backswings...and inadvertently following through and hooking my thumb on the stick or some other nonsense and hitting hooks/slices even with player clubs. In other words no confidence at all! I really feel like hitting consistently in the cone with tour clubs is as much or more about confidence than anything else.
Also during my down periods, I keep thinking the controller is at fault, because surely I should be able to still be hitting straight-ish with player and tour clubs...I mean I was doing just great a couple weeks ago. Stuff ends up getting broken (sad but true).
I love to love this game and hate to hate it on and off and on again... The inconsistency of my play is why I stopped posting too much on this forum. Come into the forum and gloat about my good scores for a couple weeks, then come back and complain about this POS of a game when I am doing poorly. Gets old to say, and I am sure gets even older to read...
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