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Post by joegolferg on May 23, 2018 9:45:14 GMT -5
Expecting the release sometime this week......
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Post by theclv24 on May 23, 2018 15:05:54 GMT -5
Expecting the release sometime this week...... Not this week, lol. I'm going to be gone this weekend (on the plus side I'm playing a Pete Dye on Sunday). Will get some work in tonight and Monday night, but it won't be enough. I laid down 17 last night and started working on the punchbowl green. Even after I finish the holes, I still have about 1/3 of the exterior plot to finish. Excited to publish, but have to take my time on the details.
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Post by joegolferg on May 26, 2018 12:59:18 GMT -5
#3 - Leven - Par 4 - 416 I am taking a leap here and assuming that I correctly understand the Leven template. Working from the green backwards, a large mound in the front left makes for a semi-blind approach shot for all tee balls that find the left side of the fairway. Add in the angle of the green, which makes it shallower when approaching from the left, plus the water hazard behind, and it is easy to see why the right side is by far the preferred approach angle. To achieve that angle, players must aggressively take on as much of the diagonal fairway bunker as possible. Just played this hole and it also reminds me of an 'Alps'. It's like an Alps - Leven hybrid. You've got the fairway bunker of the Leven template with bunkers tucked behind your mounds in front of the green. Usually on a Leven the bunkers are infront of the mound. This is a good result considering you couldn't really fit an Alps in.
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Post by joegolferg on May 26, 2018 13:04:41 GMT -5
(I am through 12 hole designs, but purposely spacing these out to keep me occupied at work during a slow period) #4 - Road - Par 4 - 431 The Road Hole needs no introduction. This one entices the golfer to carry the right fairway bunkers, as opposed to a hotel and OB, for the right angle into a shallow and angled green guarded in front by a deep bunker. At 431 from the back, it should not be as hard as St Andrews, but certainly is designed to be one of the harder holes on the course. The other tees besides the back tees are all up far enough to give players at every level a chance at trying to clear the bunkers, but a little room to bail short and left, at an albeit horrible angle into the green. You've nailed this template. Very well done. Love the corner cut you've created with the two fairway bunkers, and then the deep pot bunker infront of the green along with the long bunker at the back to represent the road. Only thing I would have considered doing is lengthening the hole. 450+ is the standard for a road template, but not always! I like yours.
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Post by theclv24 on May 29, 2018 12:57:15 GMT -5
#3 - Leven - Par 4 - 416 I am taking a leap here and assuming that I correctly understand the Leven template. Working from the green backwards, a large mound in the front left makes for a semi-blind approach shot for all tee balls that find the left side of the fairway. Add in the angle of the green, which makes it shallower when approaching from the left, plus the water hazard behind, and it is easy to see why the right side is by far the preferred approach angle. To achieve that angle, players must aggressively take on as much of the diagonal fairway bunker as possible. Just played this hole and it also reminds me of an 'Alps'. It's like an Alps - Leven hybrid. You've got the fairway bunker of the Leven template with bunkers tucked behind your mounds in front of the green. Usually on a Leven the bunkers are infront of the mound. This is a good result considering you couldn't really fit an Alps in. Yeah I wasn't sure how to best accomplish a Leven on flat land. I've seen many versions of it thanks to LinkGems on IG, and I feel like on some sites Raynor got creative with using either bunkers, mounds, or a combination of both. The end result is always that the safer route off the tee leaves a worse view on approach. The water behind the green kind of took away the option to build the bunkers up high, as the green is too shallow. This accomplishes the blocked view goal, while still leaving a hazard in front for short shots. In general this and the Road hole are really tucked into a tight corner. I could have extended the Road hole a little bit at the greensite, but wanted to make the 4 green to 5 tee still walkable. I really put a lot of artificial restrictions in place to make it seem more lifelike (I'm still holding out hope that someday I will have the money to buy the course and completely build my design, lol).
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Post by theclv24 on May 29, 2018 13:08:38 GMT -5
So I hit the planting limit today. I guess for all intents and purposes that means I am done, and could probably publish right now. I really want to playtest the crap out of this, though, and squeeze every ounce of strategic subtlety as I can out of this course. I'll give it a day or two before I cave, but really my goal would be to make it to next weekend at least. Here are the last 3 holes before I do a release thread with all of the final screenshots, and I'll redo the original post about the concept, as well. 16 - Par 3 - Short Here is the classic thumbprint design on the green. You can see the 18th green is in close proximity. I designed it too close, in fact, to keep the original pond that was there that I intended to use as a hazard on both holes. I don't feel like I've lost much. 17 - Par 4 - Punchbowl I tried to incorporate some subtle ridges into the punchbowl, like Raynor did at Fishers Island. In general it is still very punchbowl-ish and forgiving, as long as you don't go way offline and hit the wrong quadrant of the green. 18 - Par 4 - Home/Old White As you can see in this picture, in addition to the 16th and 18th being in close proximity, the putting green is also nearby. In the distance you can see some maintenance buildings, the clubhouse, and parking lot area.
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Post by joegolferg on May 29, 2018 13:30:47 GMT -5
Just played this hole and it also reminds me of an 'Alps'. It's like an Alps - Leven hybrid. You've got the fairway bunker of the Leven template with bunkers tucked behind your mounds in front of the green. Usually on a Leven the bunkers are infront of the mound. This is a good result considering you couldn't really fit an Alps in. Yeah I wasn't sure how to best accomplish a Leven on flat land. I've seen many versions of it thanks to LinkGems on IG, and I feel like on some sites Raynor got creative with using either bunkers, mounds, or a combination of both. The end result is always that the safer route off the tee leaves a worse view on approach. The water behind the green kind of took away the option to build the bunkers up high, as the green is too shallow. This accomplishes the blocked view goal, while still leaving a hazard in front for short shots. In general this and the Road hole are really tucked into a tight corner. I could have extended the Road hole a little bit at the greensite, but wanted to make the 4 green to 5 tee still walkable. I really put a lot of artificial restrictions in place to make it seem more lifelike (I'm still holding out hope that someday I will have the money to buy the course and completely build my design, lol). Lmao if you accumulate enough capital for that, bring me in on the job!
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Post by theclv24 on May 31, 2018 11:55:25 GMT -5
I've been playtesting over the past few days, and adding small little details here and there, mostly moving some dirt around to make the long views across the course more interesting. Some small tweaks to playability in some areas, such as expanding the 3rd green to move the bunkers closer and give a little more room for pin positions. I am 5 holes through playtesting the 4th pin set, so I'm pretty confident I will get this one published tonight. I have the write up done, just need to take the final pics.
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