Season 4 Update

[Doyley]

Season 4 Update
We are going to re-arrange the pro tours in order to better sort players into similar skill groupings. Starting with the addition of a new top tour called PGA+. The European Tour will drop down below the PGA Tour and above the Web.com Tour. Promotion now goes from Web.com to European Tour to PGA Tour to PGA+.

New Order of Tours

Here’s how it will shake down.

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- Auto-promotion to PGA+ via WGR ranking (Top 50 - starting January 8th, 2018)
- Cut/clear strikes at 70
- Double strike line at 100
- Projected fields at 140 players
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Reshuffling of Members/Assigned Tours
After season 3 is complete we will reshuffle the membership of the PGA and European Tours as such:

PGA+
Top 10: WGR
Top 40: Hottest Players/Last 5 Weeks

PGA Tour
Next 70: WGR
Next 70: Hottest Players/Last 5 Weeks

European Tour
remainder of PGA/European tour players


Season 4 - Start Date
Plan is to take 1 week off after Season 3 ends. During that week we'll:

Season 4 start date is tentatively set at October 16th.


Ryder Cup/President’s Cup
We’ll adjust the Ryder Cup and President’s Cup auto-selections to be based off WGR points. The President's Cup will be rescheduled for sometime in the winter.


Season 4 - Playoffs
Will do a deeper dive into how this will work after we get through the first few weeks of Season 4


Apologies to European Based Players
My sincere apologies go to European-based players as I know playing on your home tour is a major reason you enjoy TGC Tours.

At the end of the day, the PGA+ will be very competitive. If you want to be ranked as one of the best in the game you will have to beat the best week in and week out. You will also have to play consistently well to prevent demotion.

Putting all the best players in one tour opens up the rest of the Pro tours for a more balanced experience for many more golfers. That’s really the bottom line and is why we are making this move. I think the majority of top players will enjoy the challenge of the new tour. We'll also see hundreds of others enjoying a more competitive environment weekly outside of the PGA+.

[boffo]

Poor Doyley.

[Doyley]

I'm ready

[titaneddie]

Tough call here, but I'll go page 7 for the lock!

[stuartgibson]

Brilliant changes, this is how it should always be. The competition will be really fair now instead of the big guns dodging each other by splitting tours

[Doyley]

Sept 25, 2017 19:10:09 GMT -5 titaneddie said:

Tough call here, but I'll go page 7 for the lock!

Are most of the Euro's asleep?  Did I do that again?  My timing is terrible!

[titaneddie]

Sept 25, 2017 19:11:40 GMT -5 Doyley said:

Sept 25, 2017 19:10:09 GMT -5 titaneddie said:

Are most of the Euro's asleep?  Did I do that again?  My timing is terrible!

You better hope they're not just getting home after going out for a few...!

[Doyley]

Sept 25, 2017 19:14:32 GMT -5 titaneddie said:

Sept 25, 2017 19:11:40 GMT -5 Doyley said:

Are most of the Euro's asleep?  Did I do that again?  My timing is terrible!

You better hope they're not just getting home!

Never thought of that!



In all seriousness, if anyone has any questions comments etc, I'm around for the next few hours to explain why these decisions were made.

[superace33]

Still tour clubs only on PGA and Euro?

[ijs1543]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not a fan of euro players not able to play on home tour was reason i joined euro and not pga also now majors and wgc pretty pointless now, but i get why you have done if it turns out to be like tgc1 where only 4 players where winning on either tour at least this way your have more competition though out all levels, dont like pga+ tho why not pga then euro then web

[Giraffe72]

I'm not asleep (yet) - combination of a stupid work pattern and being an NFL fan!

I understand your reasoning, but I don't like it. The European Tour has been great fun and a big challenge for me. Plus it has really built in to this fun group who have a bit of a laugh, get banned now and again, and generally play the game in the spirit it was intended. Now that's all getting broken up and I think that's sad.

However, I can see plus sides to having basically 4 Pro tours with free movement between them. For those of us outside the top 50 that should make for some fun tournaments with a lot to play for. As long as you're no longer pretending this mirrors the real tours, because it doesn't.

RIP European Tour

[Brighttail]

Not taking into account the top 10, i'm 30th after that as the hottest player? I have 2 weeks to drop 11 spots!!!!

I stayed on the PGA to get away from Brad and Ian!  Jeez we barely tolerate Smurf as it is, bring the whole crew over and there will be no hope.

[Deleted]

As someone who will probably be somewhere near the tail end of the PGA+ or top end of the PGA, I don’t like the idea of bouncing between tours.

I’d rather it had gone Web, PGA, Euro then Euro+ in the rankings, but that’s just my preference for Euro.

Will players be able to qualify for majors from lower tiers? Will a last place on the PGA+ tour get the same or more WGR ranking points as first on the PGA tour? How will you police people sandbagging to avoid PGA+

I may end up running against the grain, but overall I like the idea. I may never win a trophy but getting to the top tour will be an achievement in itself - but honestly, can we call it something else??? Like maybe the champions league or Nicklaus tour or something?

[crushtastic]

[staypuft39]

Hopefully nobody gets too dramatic, but I am disappointed, as I'm sure many are. Bouncing between tours is not what I want to do...but it's likely reality now that the cut off is at 50 WGR or so for the elite tour. With double demotion strikes, that tour is going to turn over the bottom 10 a LOT...not sure anyone wants to sign up for a spot as "PGA+ whipping boy/big dog in the minor leagues" on a recurring basis, considering a PGA win will mean zilch to any real competitor.

I was a fan of the large number of people on the "top tours". Made a top 10 feel really good, and gave a huge number of people a shot at glory every week. Sad to see it go.

Edit: Count me as someone who thinks calling it PGA+ will get very confusing.