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Post by kireishoujo on Jun 14, 2016 16:55:57 GMT -5
I'm predicting it's going to be a march/april 2017 release. Q1 almost never means January..would be nice though. The transition will be tricky. Depending on the business, January isn't even considered Q1. Usually February-April is considered Q1 by most.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Jun 14, 2016 16:58:13 GMT -5
I hope it fcuks up the super lofting chart players. Yes!!!
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Post by jacobkessler on Jun 14, 2016 17:10:11 GMT -5
Let's not forget ol' TGC1...we still have 9-10 months with it at least..let's make them good! You sound like a doctor... TGC1 has TGC2 disease, and only has 9-10 months to live... Make sure to comfort TGC1 and make it's last year of worth living! Lol
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Post by HeMan1202 on Jun 14, 2016 17:37:10 GMT -5
It's going to seem a long wait until it finally comes out. I think that obviously as soon as it comes out the tour has to use it since everyone will put TGC1 away immediately. If the swing difficulty can be easily changed during a round,rather than being stuck with hard/hardest or easier for the full round I'll be happy enough.I'm assuming that will be the case. I don't mind starting from scratch,not having had the game so long but on the other hand I've won nowt so I wouldn't mind would I! It would make no sense to allow you to change your swing difficulty from shot to shot. I assume it would be an option in your golfer profile (swing type). I hope this is the case anyway. I also hope there is a setting for tourney play to lock the hardest swing in (pro tours). If not I guess course length will weed out those who choose the easy swing.
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Post by jtcurrent on Jun 14, 2016 17:39:30 GMT -5
It's going to seem a long wait until it finally comes out. I think that obviously as soon as it comes out the tour has to use it since everyone will put TGC1 away immediately. If the swing difficulty can be easily changed during a round,rather than being stuck with hard/hardest or easier for the full round I'll be happy enough.I'm assuming that will be the case. I don't mind starting from scratch,not having had the game so long but on the other hand I've won nowt so I wouldn't mind would I! It would make no sense to allow you to change your swing difficulty from shot to shot. I assume it would be an option in your golfer profile (swing type). I hope this is the case anyway. I also hope there is a setting for tourney play to lock the hardest swing in (pro tours). If not I guess course length will weed out those who choose the easy swing. Their fact sheet indicates difficulty can be adjusted shot to shot.
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Post by hershalcrustofsk on Jun 14, 2016 17:43:47 GMT -5
Not too worried about the specifics of transferring the tours, as long as they still exist in something similar to this, sounds good to me. Excited about a new game, more difficult swing options and more designing options.
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Post by crushtastic on Jun 14, 2016 17:45:42 GMT -5
I also hope there is a setting for tourney play to lock the hardest swing in (pro tours). If not I guess course length will weed out those who choose the easy swing. I was just about to say the same thing
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Post by bassman70 on Jun 14, 2016 17:46:15 GMT -5
It should be shot to shot...that's what it is now...what I mean is you can loft up on drives if you want to get more distance or you can just hit it. Lofting up creates a MUCH smaller cone...there's your difficulty difference.
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Post by jacobkessler on Jun 14, 2016 17:50:29 GMT -5
One issue with different swing styles... Someone here could be using a very hard swing style and they get beat by someone using the easiest style, which is kind of unfair. We'll see how the staff here and handles this.
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Post by HeMan1202 on Jun 14, 2016 17:56:07 GMT -5
It would make no sense to allow you to change your swing difficulty from shot to shot. I assume it would be an option in your golfer profile (swing type). I hope this is the case anyway. I also hope there is a setting for tourney play to lock the hardest swing in (pro tours). If not I guess course length will weed out those who choose the easy swing. Their fact sheet indicates difficulty can be adjusted shot to shot. I don't see the point if you can just pick and choose which shots you want to use a difficult swing for.
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Post by crushtastic on Jun 14, 2016 17:56:45 GMT -5
As Jason said, if they could lock it in per tournament/tour, then I think that would be good. Say, the hardest for the pro tours (PGA/Euro), medium for Web.com and CC-A and easy for the rest.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 18:00:49 GMT -5
Here is what's going to happen with swing difficulties so that it's fair for everybody.
The easier settings will have the shortest distance. On long holes, this will clearly give the better golfers an advantage over those who use the easier setting.
Conversely, the harder settings are going to knock so many yards off the distance that even long par 4s won't be a problem.
Ultimately, as it has always been, the better golfers will be at the top just as they are now. I mean we all have easy swings now. So why aren't we all shooting 58s like The Machine?
I mean if it all comes down to the swing difficulty determining how good you do, why are people shooting 21 over par?
Plus, it's still going to come down to putting.
In short, don't worry about the different swing difficulties. It's going to make absolutely no difference in terms of who does well and who doesn't.
The better golfers will still be the better golfers.
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Post by ErixonStone on Jun 14, 2016 18:51:50 GMT -5
As Jason said, if they could lock it in per tournament/tour, then I think that would be good. Say, the hardest for the pro tours (PGA/Euro), medium for Web.com and CC-A and easy for the rest. I don't think this would be a good idea. Players should have a choice: Do I really need to hit this as far as I can, or should I play this one safe and make sure I hit the fairway? If the game is balanced, neither approach will be better than the others. If someone can master the difficult swing, then more power to them. Other players should be able to compete using a different swing. Not all pros have the same swing. There shouldn't be a mechanic that forces players to play one way or the other. Let the players choose. People will master the difficult swing. Any changes in overall scoring will be due to other factors, such as removing the exact science and replacing it with fuzzy math.
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Post by crushtastic on Jun 14, 2016 19:18:03 GMT -5
don't think this would be a good idea. Players should have a choice: Do I really need to hit this as far as I can, or should I play this one safe and make sure I hit the fairway? If the game is balanced, neither approach will be better than the others. If someone can master the difficult swing, then more power to them. Other players should be able to compete using a different swing. Not all pros have the same swing. There shouldn't be a mechanic that forces players to play one way or the other. Let the players choose. People will master the difficult swing. Any changes in overall scoring will be due to other factors, such as removing the exact science and replacing it with fuzzy math. Fair enough. You raise very good and very valid points
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 19:21:38 GMT -5
It would seem bizarre if you could pick and choose what difficulty you wanted to use for each shot. This is what was stated on the HB Dev Diary:
◾a) Swing – we’re currently looking at a 3 level swing mechanic. The easy level will very much be based off of what we have now, but with tempo added and a distance reduction, Hard will be very punishing if in any way off centre and the tempo isn’t correct but when it’s good you will get a considerably further distance. Doing this gives us the variation we want, the difficulty some want and brings in the actual point of multiple tees.
What would be interesting to know is: How much further does the Hard level go? If it's 10 yards then is that really much of an advantage going from say a 7 iron to a 6 iron for your approach?
Don't think I like the statement of "Hard will be very punishing if in any way off center and the tempo isn't correct". I hit maybe one or two shots in a tournament that look slightly straight and some already claim that certain stock controllers are easier to hit straighter than other brands.
As for the "Brings in the actual point of multiple tees". I wonder if by choosing the so called easier swing you play the hole from the forward tees, hard would be from the back ones? Guess we'll find out about that one soon as I've no idea how you would create a course to accommodate that feature?
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