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Post by mcbogga on Jun 15, 2016 22:59:00 GMT -5
Simply due to the excessive spin on the shorter flops....
I dont really see how they would pull off a great short game - noone ever has. It would need to be a shaft angle / openess of club face / attack angle shotshaper without any stock shots.
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Post by nocturnal on Jun 15, 2016 23:50:16 GMT -5
These are the things I would like to see change: - Flop shots are too easy and have too much backspin. - Pitches, flops, and chip seem to be effected by wind too much. - All other shots are too easy to hit straight - Shots from the heavy rough are too unforgiving for distance but not enough for accuracy. (slice/hook) - Backspin should be more prevalent on 7- PW. - Less accurate method of applying loft/deloft and fade/draw. - uphill/downhill lies should effect loft just like side hill lies do now with fade/draw. Hopefully TGC 2.0 and the new swing mechanic will address most of these items and then this game will not only be the best golf game ever created but will be the most realistic video golf experience one could hope for.
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Post by BillySastard976 on Jun 16, 2016 0:30:05 GMT -5
Please god HB,don't forget about the endless ball rolling at a snails pace,even in bunkers.
The trampoline effect when hitting a fringe is another pain.
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Post by jacobkessler on Jun 16, 2016 5:51:04 GMT -5
I really want a way to skip the actual shot and just see where it lands.
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Post by firstblitzer on Jun 16, 2016 7:11:29 GMT -5
I really want a way to skip the actual shot and just see where it lands. No chance of this happening and I agree with AK's stance on this.
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Post by joegolferg on Jun 16, 2016 8:59:28 GMT -5
Only just seen this. Happy to see the announcement.
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Post by mcbogga on Jun 16, 2016 9:18:54 GMT -5
I really want a way to skip the actual shot and just see where it lands. No chance of this happening and I agree with AK's stance on this. Yeah - no skipping.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 11:59:18 GMT -5
Ok I'm going to way in, I think all three settings should be allowed in all comps, I'm currently playing off 1.7 in RL and I only hit in on average 250meters 275yards for you Americans. And I'm getting dusted off the tee in most comps, how ever I'm hitting on average 10-12 fairways per round and 14-16 greens because I'm more of a straight hitter, the bombers may hit it 330 yards and have a shorter shot into greens, but with that they can hit it 330 yards into trouble, and make a double bogey, we all know that putting is were you make up your strokes, (stokes gained putting) for you stat guys, But I also agree throwing darts shouldn't be the norm, I guess what I'm saying is in your player profile you should be able to select what sort of golfer you are, For example bomber, were you can hit it 300 yards off the tee but your cone is narrower and you loose touch and feel around the greens because your cone is narrower Balanced were everything is a little easier than a bomber but your 20 yards shorter And accuracy were your cone is bigger and you will hit more fairways and greens but you will be shorter, like myself in real life, Because not everyone on the PGA tour is bubba Watson (bomber) Jordan spieth balanced And a David toms accuracy, At the end of the day course set up will see who is best suited to win the comp just like in real life Dustin Johnson likes courses were he can take driver everywhere, but hates tight thinking man golf course, It will be up to the TGCtours to select courses that maybe 1 week has an advantage to the bombers, wide open fairways long courses and the week after tight fairways long rough tree lined type, were being long has no advantage, I hope you guys get what I'm trying to say, At the end of the day I'm just looking forward to WATER FALLS man Regards jacquesy You've put this across much better than I have in the past. Totally agree and I'm betting that you as an accuracy player don't hit as many bogies as those bombers but the bombers will birdie more than you. Risk/reward. Ideally, I'd prefer two more levels of difficulty (Very Easy/Very Hard) as I'm worried hard won't be hard enough (I want very hard to be bombers spraying it haha) and a very easy mode means beginners can pick up and play the game and still have fun. Beginners will feel more comfortable playing on Very Easy (Accurate), Easy (Balanced) or Medium (Power) whilst the hardcore pro players will feel better playing Medium (Accurate), Hard (Balanced) or Very Hard (Power). Something like this for distances This way 3 different sets of tees can be set up to match the average distances of easy for the beginners, average for middling players and hard for top players.
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Post by nocturnal on Jun 16, 2016 14:20:53 GMT -5
You've put this across much better than I have in the past. Totally agree and I'm betting that you as an accuracy player don't hit as many bogies as those bombers but the bombers will birdie more than you. Risk/reward. Ideally, I'd prefer two more levels of difficulty (Very Easy/Very Hard) as I'm worried hard won't be hard enough (I want very hard to be bombers spraying it haha) and a very easy mode means beginners can pick up and play the game and still have fun. Beginners will feel more comfortable playing on Very Easy (Accurate), Easy (Balanced) or Medium (Power) whilst the hardcore pro players will feel better playing Medium (Accurate), Hard (Balanced) or Very Hard (Power). Something like this for distances This way 3 different sets of tees can be set up to match the average distances of easy for the beginners, average for middling players and hard for top players. This will be fine but ONLY if there is a benefit to choosing to kill a 8 iron vs an "easy swing" 5 iron. (like a lot more backspin) Currently there is little to no difference in hitting a 5i vs an 8i on an approach so the risk vs reward to choose the hard option on any shot other than a tee shot of long par 5 approach would be pointless. For me, it's not about gaining extra distance. That's almost like TW games where you wear a special glove and hit it farther or special shoes that hit straighter. I don't want it to be gimmicky, just more realistic. less about calculating math problems and more about guess work and "feel"......while having the option to try to make really tough shots that actually have serious risks if you miss hit or your timing is off. (like playing into a green that will only hold a 170yd shot if an 8i is ripped with a ton of backspin and the easy swing 5i will not hold)
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Post by dh-nufc on Jun 16, 2016 15:22:54 GMT -5
I still fear that best players will nail the swing no matter how hard it is and the gap between them and us mortals will widen further. I don't always hit it that straight so I'm going to be screwed.
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Post by jacquesy123 on Jun 16, 2016 15:25:42 GMT -5
Ok I'm going to way in, I think all three settings should be allowed in all comps, I'm currently playing off 1.7 in RL and I only hit in on average 250meters 275yards for you Americans. And I'm getting dusted off the tee in most comps, how ever I'm hitting on average 10-12 fairways per round and 14-16 greens because I'm more of a straight hitter, the bombers may hit it 330 yards and have a shorter shot into greens, but with that they can hit it 330 yards into trouble, and make a double bogey, we all know that putting is were you make up your strokes, (stokes gained putting) for you stat guys, But I also agree throwing darts shouldn't be the norm, I guess what I'm saying is in your player profile you should be able to select what sort of golfer you are, For example bomber, were you can hit it 300 yards off the tee but your cone is narrower and you loose touch and feel around the greens because your cone is narrower Balanced were everything is a little easier than a bomber but your 20 yards shorter And accuracy were your cone is bigger and you will hit more fairways and greens but you will be shorter, like myself in real life, Because not everyone on the PGA tour is bubba Watson (bomber) Jordan spieth balanced And a David toms accuracy, At the end of the day course set up will see who is best suited to win the comp just like in real life Dustin Johnson likes courses were he can take driver everywhere, but hates tight thinking man golf course, It will be up to the TGCtours to select courses that maybe 1 week has an advantage to the bombers, wide open fairways long courses and the week after tight fairways long rough tree lined type, were being long has no advantage, I hope you guys get what I'm trying to say, At the end of the day I'm just looking forward to WATER FALLS man Regards jacquesy You've put this across much better than I have in the past. Totally agree and I'm betting that you as an accuracy player don't hit as many bogies as those bombers but the bombers will birdie more than you. Risk/reward. Ideally, I'd prefer two more levels of difficulty (Very Easy/Very Hard) as I'm worried hard won't be hard enough (I want very hard to be bombers spraying it haha) and a very easy mode means beginners can pick up and play the game and still have fun. Beginners will feel more comfortable playing on Very Easy (Accurate), Easy (Balanced) or Medium (Power) whilst the hardcore pro players will feel better playing Medium (Accurate), Hard (Balanced) or Very Hard (Power). Something like this for distances This way 3 different sets of tees can be set up to match the average distances of easy for the beginners, average for middling players and hard for top players. [ Yea your pritty much spot on with that I had a round the other day me and my mate both play off 1-2 depending on the course, he hits it, 300+ yards off the tee and I'm at 270yards, my day consisted of 1 birdie 1 bogie and 16 pars boring golf, my mate on the other hand 5 birdies two doubles and two bogies, so I manage to beat him, but at the end of the day I think each swing will have its advantages and disadvantages, As long as they get those balances right the game will be fine, Up side is we will be able to delete the crap courses all of us have hidden away afraid to put our names on them, I have about 17 lol
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Post by dorksirjur on Jun 16, 2016 15:27:24 GMT -5
Make an ultra hard setting where the cone is a pixel wide but if you nail it you go about 380 yards. One pixel off, you're in the next town.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 16:19:36 GMT -5
I still fear that best players will nail the swing no matter how hard it is and the gap between them and us mortals will widen further. I don't always hit it that straight so I'm going to be screwed. To be honest I feel the gap needs to be wider anyway. Look at all the slope ratings. They are all like 55. I'd love to play on a course which is something like a par 72 course with a course rating of say 72/150. Huuuuuge slope rating meaning it's a tough par 72 for your bogey golfer. There's this big old handicap system yet majority of people hit under par on courses that aren't tricked up so not many are bogey golfers. Have a course that caters to the easy swing and it will have a low slope rating and beginners can finish under par on it. The tougher courses will be only for those that can play well with medium to hard swing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 16:20:00 GMT -5
Make an ultra hard setting where the cone is a pixel wide but if you nail it you go about 380 yards. One pixel off, you're in the next town. It will be like the long drive championships haha.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 9:06:41 GMT -5
For all budding course designers that are looking to create courses for TGC2 then look no further than how Kapalua Bay sets up their multi-tees to suit all levels of golfers. www.golfatkapalua.com/plantation-course.htmlChampionship (black) - 77.2/144 - 7411 yards Regular (yellow) - 73.3/140 - 6674 yards Resort (white) - 71.5/132 - 6019 yards Forward (red) - 68.2/127 - 5627 yards Now if this course was chosen to host a TGCT event then the ideal situation would be for the PGA to play off the Championship (black) tees. Hard swing will be needed here. Medium could at a push compete but you'd have to play very very well in order to do so. A +4 handicap player should be hitting on average around par here (73). The web.com would play off the Regular (yellow) tees. Anyone who can play on hard swing would obviously do really well here and try to overpower the course but anyone that can play hard swing relatively well would not be far off PGA level and other areas of their game like putting/scrambling will probably be letting them down. Medium players would compete a bit better with hard swing players at this level rather than the Championship tees. A 0 handicap level player should be hitting around par here. The CC tour would play off the Resort (white) tees. Easy swing players would be able to compete here but obviously the harder swing you choose the more advantage you have. A 2 handicap level player should be hitting around par here.
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