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Post by brianfuller75 on Jan 25, 2016 4:48:12 GMT -5
Each week I play on the TST tour, and it is a bit of a struggle, but I still enjoy it. It has occurred to me that most of the participants are from the PGA , Euro and web.com tours. For us CC players it is really hard. So I have a suggestion or two. One, how about dividing it into two divisions. This would encourage the CC players to take part. The other possibility would be to make it a handicap event. Either of these would make it a bit more competitive and enjoyable.
The CC players that I see each week on the CC events just don't play the TST tour, with one or two exceptions.
To my mind the best solution would be to have a top tier for PGA, Euro and Web.com, and a second tier for all the CC players from A to Z
I know this would be a bit more work, and I'm sure that the organizers have enough on their plate already. However I think it would increase the numbers playing the TST event/s, and would therefore be well worth it.
I, for one would really appreciate it!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 6:17:52 GMT -5
2 tournaments a week. Anyone can play either tournament. Main tournament stays the same. 4 rounds, big prize fund. Second tournament is 2 rounds only, no cut, much smaller prize fund.
I'd like that. Keep players on the same money list but allows the casual and rookie TST players to not get disillusioned looking at the leaderboard. There was 2 tournaments the other week and I thought it worked well.
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Post by coggin66 on Jan 25, 2016 7:39:30 GMT -5
2 tournaments a week. Anyone can play either tournament. Main tournament stays the same. 4 rounds, big prize fund. Second tournament is 2 rounds only, no cut, much smaller prize fund. I'd like that. Keep players on the same money list but allows the casual and rookie TST players to not get disillusioned looking at the leaderboard. There was 2 tournaments the other week and I thought it worked well. As long as you can choose which one to enter. I've progressed from CCD to CCA during this TST season and I enjoy competing against the best in the game. A Top 25 feels like a win for me.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Jan 25, 2016 8:32:55 GMT -5
2 tournaments a week. Anyone can play either tournament. Main tournament stays the same. 4 rounds, big prize fund. Second tournament is 2 rounds only, no cut, much smaller prize fund. I'd like that. Keep players on the same money list but allows the casual and rookie TST players to not get disillusioned looking at the leaderboard. There was 2 tournaments the other week and I thought it worked well. I like it but feel there needs to be some kind of criteria to split the two events apart. All it takes is one or two good players fancying an easy win and playing the lower event to totally ruin it. eg those inside the top 30 on the money list have to play the higher event, all those below have the choice
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Post by brianfuller75 on Jan 25, 2016 8:55:27 GMT -5
You would have to register for the one appropriate for you. If you are in cc-a to cc-z you could only register for the lower tier. If you are PGA, Euro or Web.com you could only register for the top tier. There only needs to be one tournament set up, of four rounds.
It would work like the TGCT CC event. where all levels play the same event, but you register and submit your score to the one you are eligible for.
So no-one could pick up cheap cash!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 4:45:38 GMT -5
but what about players like me average web players but on tst I'm more like an average CC-A(B)I go as far as CC-D player
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Post by Matt10 on Jan 26, 2016 16:44:31 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for their suggestions and thoughts. It has definitely crossed my mind several times. We just have to look at how, and what, can be implemented during the first official season of the TST. For those that are hesitant to play, just go ahead and jump in. It does look better for us to see 100+ players in the field so we can validate the possibility of a split tour.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 12:00:07 GMT -5
Jacko is correct from my point of view. It would be nice to give everyone the option to play against the big guns or select either but you would have to have restrictions and promotions to prevent sandbagging. I've always envisioned the True Sim Tour with 2 divisions; The Professionals and The Amateurs. I hope I'm wrong but I do not see the Tour growing beyond those two. The issue will be how to place members into the two tiers. Perhaps we could allow new members or current members on inaugural day to chose with the exception of the top 30 so far on the True Sim Tour. You would then need forced promotions out of the Amateur League. The only odd things would be the ability after meeting some poor play criteria and a review and approval by a True Sim Tour Committee to be demoted back to an Amateur. Plus the fact that Amateurs would be earning prize money. Amateurs could play the same venues to start but then it would be up to the Amateur membership to provide feedback if that works out OK and if a different easier venue is what the field would prefer then we would need some volunteers to help discover, test and select the alternate venues. Some food for thought, SC
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 13:09:59 GMT -5
Those who are in top 50 in money list can only play main tournament. Others can choose either tournament. Job done.
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Post by billybudd0623 on Jan 27, 2016 13:20:51 GMT -5
I am on the Euro tour but I struggle on the TST. Good round for me is 4 or 5 under. I would not belong with the main tour.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 13:28:48 GMT -5
Those who are in top 50 in money list can only play main tournament. Others can choose either tournament. Job done. FedEx list is better. Too much variance between purses.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 16:45:29 GMT -5
To-mae-toe/To-mar-toe. What's the point in having both the fedex list and money list whilst we are at it? Don't they serve the same purpose? Sack one of them off and go with top 50 can only enter the main competition whilst everyone else can choose between the two. Top tour gives you more fed ex points/more money. Minor tournaments is 10% of the main tournament (Winner gets $1m on main and $100k on minor)
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Post by coggin66 on Jan 27, 2016 18:19:23 GMT -5
If you have the numbers to warrant splitting the tour, why wouldn't you just mimic the CC structure i.e A & B with automatic promotions & demotions and the same course so you can still create a master money list. You can call them whatever you like but lets face it, we are all amateurs here.
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Post by Matt10 on Jan 28, 2016 3:01:09 GMT -5
If you have the numbers to warrant splitting the tour, why wouldn't you just mimic the CC structure i.e A & B with automatic promotions & demotions and the same course so you can still create a master money list. You can call them whatever you like but lets face it, we are all amateurs here. Well that's the thing, we have to see consistent numbers. Day 1 TST it was about 300+ participants in the first tourney, since then average about 70-90. This is where the decision making behind the scenes are ongoing. FWIW, we have always hoped to do a tier format, just about getting our feet wet initially.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Jan 28, 2016 4:59:49 GMT -5
If you have the numbers to warrant splitting the tour, why wouldn't you just mimic the CC structure i.e A & B with automatic promotions & demotions and the same course so you can still create a master money list. You can call them whatever you like but lets face it, we are all amateurs here. Well that's the thing, we have to see consistent numbers. Day 1 TST it was about 300+ participants in the first tourney, since then average about 70-90. This is where the decision making behind the scenes are ongoing. FWIW, we have always hoped to do a tier format, just about getting our feet wet initially. Guess it's catch 22. Some people think tiering the tours would increase numbers, but with numbers below 100 tiering the tours might not be the best idea. Disappointing that so many people gave up on it so easily, and that a few more of the better players haven't embraced the challenge
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