|
Post by Brighttail on Nov 14, 2015 11:43:15 GMT -5
tgctours.proboards.com/post/76594/threadAdmin has discussed recent events with regards to possibly allowing chipping on the green on distances further than the putter could putt. We decided not to change the rule and that it will remain as is. Onus is on the player to assess the risk/reward of the approach shot. But what about those shots that aren't risk /reward and just a second or even first shot on to the green. Keep the rule as it is, fine, but onus is also now on the reviewers/rangers/approvers/marshals and TD to ensure there aren't any of these unfair situations.
|
|
|
Post by boomboom on Nov 14, 2015 12:46:43 GMT -5
tgctours.proboards.com/post/76594/threadAdmin has discussed recent events with regards to possibly allowing chipping on the green on distances further than the putter could putt. We decided not to change the rule and that it will remain as is. Onus is on the player to assess the risk/reward of the approach shot. But what about those shots that aren't risk /reward and just a second or even first shot on to the green. Keep the rule as it is, fine, but onus is also now on the reviewers/rangers/approvers/marshals and TD to ensure there aren't any of these unfair situations. It really concerns me you are a reviewer and see it as unfair, does this mean you would reject every large green now, because someone might make a poor choice of shot.
|
|
|
Post by Brighttail on Nov 14, 2015 13:06:10 GMT -5
But what about those shots that aren't risk /reward and just a second or even first shot on to the green. Keep the rule as it is, fine, but onus is also now on the reviewers/rangers/approvers/marshals and TD to ensure there aren't any of these unfair situations. It really concerns me you are a reviewer and see it as unfair, does this mean you would reject every large green now, because someone might make a poor choice of shot. It means as a reviewer when I see the possibility ( and i do look ), I put it in my report. I wouldn't outright a course because of one green. As stated i would put it in my notes/review back to the designer and ask them to address the issue or change the pin placement. After that, that is the end of my role. It goes to the approvers who hopefully read the notes and follow ups on it. Large greens aren't an issue. It is the elevation changes that i feel need to be fair. You can have a medium green with multiple elevation changes that would have the same issues. I particularly like large greens (especially with hard/firm conditions).
|
|
|
Post by Mark (Kram) on Nov 14, 2015 13:19:47 GMT -5
I think this is about perspective combined with the frequency of this type of situation. From what I gather when I read threads concerning tourneys, is that this happens rarely or it is communicated rarely. I assume that 99.9% of us play these tourneys within the rules specified. The problem with rules/regs is regardless of whether you see them as black or white, there's generally grey too. Personally, I don't buy into the risk/reward premise myself because I have seen lots of poor shots taking wonderful bounces and end of close to the flag, or not in a bunker, or it skips through the rough. I think imo, if you apply the rub of the green policy first, ie, everyone has good and bad fortune and that to an extent will even itself out. Secondly, then apply the rules, the net result is that you kind of get the level playing field members are looking for.
This stuation sadly for ProjectMayhem is a result of an oversight by the devs when they created the game, putting strength and the course creator. This is a simple fix with the putting gameplay, without having to potentially limit course design, or stringently vetting courses for tourneys.
|
|
|
Post by smurfblade88 on Nov 14, 2015 13:32:25 GMT -5
Its a tough one. I fall down on the side tat if theres a green on a course where a player can hit tat GIR and not physically be able to putt it in the hole tat course either shudn be selected for an event or the course creator shud be asked to address the issue.
Because of the games limitations wit putting power i think this is the fairest way around the issue.
|
|
|
Post by Brighttail on Nov 14, 2015 15:33:30 GMT -5
In the case of this week where it is a true risk/reward .. a driveable par 4 or even a driveable par 5 in two, I'm okay with inaccessible putting areas, that is the true risk reward. But there are courses where it happens on a par 3 or a par four where the second shot gets to 3 feet of the hole and rolls 100+ feet away and you just can't get it up to the hole without it rolling back down. That is where i had the issue. Either way, admin has spoken, we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.
|
|
|
Post by Brighttail on Nov 14, 2015 18:14:27 GMT -5
Congrats Mr. Murphy, well played.
|
|
|
Post by smurfblade88 on Nov 14, 2015 19:17:54 GMT -5
Congrats Mr. Murphy, well played. Cheers Ron. Nice playing yourself this week.
|
|
|
Post by smurfblade88 on Nov 14, 2015 19:21:21 GMT -5
Dont know what winds we'll have but from playin practice rnds im predicting a -55 for the winning score (wind permitting). Wasnt a bad prediction, lol.
|
|
|
Post by Brighttail on Nov 14, 2015 19:26:50 GMT -5
Congrats Mr. Murphy, well played. Cheers Ron. Nice playing yourself this week. Thanks. I'm kicking myself because I wasn't scoreboard watching the last two rounds as I was too focused on just getting four solid rounds in. I played safe a couple places in round 3 and 4 and played a couple of foolish thoughts I may not have done if i was more aware. Oh well, no complaints. I'm just happy to have finally shot well again. #progress
|
|