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Post by rod81simo on Jun 17, 2015 21:58:51 GMT -5
I will be annoyed if I miss out at -5. Had the bunker incident on 18 that cost me atleast 1 shot as I took 2 to get over the retainer. Played the last 2 rounds earlier shooting -8 and -4 to finish -17 total. Happy with how I played on the last 2 days. Played the last hole in +1 for the week. Ha. 3 pars and the bogey. Was a birdie hole every time I practiced course.
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Post by Bobgod09 on Jun 17, 2015 22:06:04 GMT -5
Played arguably my worst TGC round. Bogey I believe 3 of the first five as I couldn't find a straight shot to save my life. Had only one more bogey before I birdied the 18th for a +3. Had 7- 13 mph winds so it was manageable. Started 2nd round on fire holeing out i believe 3 and 4 to get to - 5 thru 8.Then i bogeyed 10 and 11. Then I had a flop shot hit the pin which woulda been eagle and it raced back down to my feet.... Lol..... 3 shot turn around. Birdied 3 or 4 holes down the stretch to shoot a - 6 in the 2nd.Coulda been real decent but these things happen. Think Im at - 3 thru 2rds. NO LOOK GOOD..... I like the tough courses even though this one didnt like me. I like the course Reeb. Tough track, very well done
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Post by CTLegacy on Jun 17, 2015 22:11:05 GMT -5
I think since the top 100 were automatically entered, theres a good chance some of those players either arent active currently, or posted bad scores and don't want to add those high numbers on their record. For me, I guess i'm not as good as I thought I was lol. +6 for the first 2 not gonna make the cut. I feel I performed REALLY strong when everyone had high winds and that got me into the Open. So I definitely feel if the winds were high and everyone had to play in 10 mph winds for the same 2 rounds, we would NOT be seeing the silly low scores we have right now on the leaderboards. Just looking at last week in my Web B tourney, I shot a 69 in rd 2 and the best score was 65. about 5 or 6 shots higher than they are normally. So I think once the wind is fixed and it's the same range of speeds and same range of direction for everyone, then you'll see a big shakeup in some of the rankings. I'll be honest. I know some top guys will still be winning wind or not, but I know for a fact you'd see a bunch of pro card holders completely lost in the winds.
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Post by mcbogga on Jun 17, 2015 22:59:27 GMT -5
Golf is not fair. A video-game portraying golf should also be equally unfair. Just needs to be the right type of unfair. Exactly the same wind for everyone - how boring that would be. Same general conditions, OK, but moving in a plus minus 90 deg arc plus swirling and gusting would be an OK approximation of what wind is like for real golf tournaments. HB were not too far off with what they gave us. If the wind would be made the exact same - I would lose interest very quickly as the feeling of "golf" would be gone and this would be exposed for the stick-flicking competition it is. This is a video game, not real golf. If competitions are gonna be run on a video game everybody shud hav equal chance to do well. If I play my tournament in 1-5mph winds and u play urs in +10mph winds thats not fair. U cant say well in real life this isnt the case because this isnt real life. And if u want it to be more realistic turn of all the aids and we'll see how well u do. But it is a video-game that the developers state is supposed to simulate golf in some respect. And its doing a very good job at that. They did not name it "the stick-flicking club", did they? I also think its more important that its fair on the macro scale, and searching for the "exact same" type of micro fairness will only hurt in the end. The issue is not different wind per say - its the fact that by picking time of play the player can decide what wind to play in. This is against the spirit of the game and why the wind needs to be locked in. But having exactly the same wind is just not nessecary - just let it even out over a season. Am currently sitting 8 on the RGT rankings so would say I'm doing OK without aids - consistent under par at least. Looking at the names on the list - punching above my weight for sure. It is the most enjoyable way to play the game and something which I hope will be adopted here as well. But of course I'm not going to put myself at an disadvantage in a competitive situation. Bit of a strawman argument there. But with the "Anything over 18 shots per round and the game must be broken" crowd on here turning aids off and making the game a bit more variable and difficult may not be in the cards. The irony is that it's the perfect way to make softer courses with flatter greens more challenging to combat the need for firm and fast.
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Post by SloanerTW on Jun 17, 2015 23:40:05 GMT -5
U wot m8? Exactly though. This is a competition. If Sloaner and the guy that's -21 after 2 rounds got 2-5mph winds, why am I playing in 6-10 winds? Look at the scores from every tournament last week. It's crystal clear that giving everyone the same speed of winds definitely leveled the playing field quite a bit. I can honestly say the only reason I qualified was from everyone having high winds. So the ones who usually wait for calm wind sucked eggs and I beat them. Now it's back to the same old and instead of the cut being around E. It's now -4 and climbing since they can wait for no wind. Really hope they get it fixed again soon. I've been having a lot of fun around here and hope it stays good for the long run but right now it's a crap shoot. I played round 1 in 10-14 mph winds and round 2 in 1-8mph round 3 was 1-8 and round 4 was 7-12 I don't think that's unreasonable at all. If round 3 was 15mph + i would have waited till the next day to play that round same with any round. Why would you force yourself to play in those conditions? I mean i don't mind playing in those conditions and can do it as well as anyone else but I'm not going to if I'm within the 5% doing it. Also on this course you kind of want a little bit of wind like 5-10mph so you can slow the ball down on some holes and be aggressive.
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Post by kireishoujo on Jun 18, 2015 3:59:37 GMT -5
Bunch of manchildren in the big leagues I see. Do you put your tournament wins on your resumes or something? Its a video game Reevaluate your priorities if people getting less wind in a golf video game really makes you this upset.
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Post by mcbogga on Jun 18, 2015 5:44:29 GMT -5
This is a video game forum with grown-ups playing that they are playing golf. Did you expect not to find a lot of manchildren?
TGCT merits on the CV - that's brilliant.
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Post by PSU-Cappy on Jun 18, 2015 7:26:33 GMT -5
Bunch of manchildren in the big leagues I see. Do you put your tournament wins on your resumes or something? Its a video game Reevaluate your priorities if people getting less wind in a golf video game really makes you this upset. Sooooo I won't be getting a check for my nearly 1M in earnings? Damn..
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Post by Alexander Salvator on Jun 18, 2015 7:52:51 GMT -5
I will be annoyed if I miss out at -5. Had the bunker incident on 18 that cost me atleast 1 shot as I took 2 to get over the retainer. Played the last 2 rounds earlier shooting -8 and -4 to finish -17 total. Happy with how I played on the last 2 days. Played the last hole in +1 for the week. Ha. 3 pars and the bogey. Was a birdie hole every time I practiced course. I feel with you. I lost the fight against the cut on the 36th hole. My third shot hit the top of the tree and bounced directly in front of the retainer. Not an inch space. As I could make a swing and my character was half "inside" the retainer" I thought "maybe I can swing". I could not and lost two strokes there. -4 in the clubhouse. Goodbye cut. I have never seen a retainer between bunker and green! Who comes up with such an idea? This is only the top of many annoying parts of this golf course. Round 2 was just no fun at all as it is in many ways just luck that makes a shot a good one or a bad one. The pin positions in Round 2 are pathetic. On how many holes do you have to keep your fingers crossed if the tee shot or a shot into the green hits the top branches of a tree? Numerous times. Normally I would say: Your fault: Why don't you just play it safe? But with 490 yards Par 4 you sometimes can not play safe if you want to have a chance to hit the green in two. If it was a bad shot: ok. Then I take the penalty of hitting a tree and landing in the thick rough. But I played two really good rounds. Hit many shots exactly how I wanted to. And I ended up with bad bounces, straight putts which were not straight at all, etc. Am I pissed and a bad loser? Yes and maybe. But honestly: If that is the way how TGC Tour golf courses will look like and play in the future I am soon out. The more as the game stutters like crazy since the last patch (and influences the putting) and the uphill putting mechanics (adjusting with the yellow marker) were changed for long putts.
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Post by Alexander Salvator on Jun 18, 2015 8:02:09 GMT -5
U wot m8? Exactly though. This is a competition. If Sloaner and the guy that's -21 after 2 rounds got 2-5mph winds, why am I playing in 6-10 winds? Look at the scores from every tournament last week. It's crystal clear that giving everyone the same speed of winds definitely leveled the playing field quite a bit. I can honestly say the only reason I qualified was from everyone having high winds. So the ones who usually wait for calm wind sucked eggs and I beat them. Now it's back to the same old and instead of the cut being around E. It's now -4 and climbing since they can wait for no wind. Really hope they get it fixed again soon. I've been having a lot of fun around here and hope it stays good for the long run but right now it's a crap shoot. I played round 1 in 10-14 mph winds and round 2 in 1-8mph round 3 was 1-8 and round 4 was 7-12 I don't think that's unreasonable at all. If round 3 was 15mph + i would have waited till the next day to play that round same with any round. Why would you force yourself to play in those conditions? I mean i don't mind playing in those conditions and can do it as well as anyone else but I'm not going to if I'm within the 5% doing it. Also on this course you kind of want a little bit of wind like 5-10mph so you can slow the ball down on some holes and be aggressive. Sloaner: You are definitely legit. Kudos for your rounds in bad conditions (as we seem to have played in the same conditions in round 1). But you seem to be the exception: Nearly all other ghosts (in top postions after 2 rounds) played in favorable winds. I do not blame them. I did the same in the past and would still do the same if I was not so annoyed by this game lately. But I hate the hypocrisy here: It is always the the other player who does this. Nobody admits that he waits for favorable conditions. Damn: It is allowed and if you want to compete for the title (Sloaner as one of the very few exceptions) you have to wait for favorable conditions. So just admit it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 9:41:37 GMT -5
^all reasons why we need universal winds.
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Post by PSU-Cappy on Jun 18, 2015 10:07:49 GMT -5
I play my rounds Saturday or Sunday (day 1 or 2 of being open) depending on what the wife's plans for me are that day. If I get lucky and the winds are calm - awesome...if not, I still go out there and try to battle. However, I'm not a "top player" so that could be a reason why...or it could just be I don't put the time and effort in the other players do. Once the wind patch kicks in, maybe a top player or two come back to the middle of the pack - but I think it's going to just create a bigger separation from the top players to the middle of the pack guys like myself. Then what will the next line of complaints be?
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Post by ed68bogus on Jun 18, 2015 10:08:01 GMT -5
Looking at my -6 holding out at 45th think it should see me through to the weekend. knowing my 3rd round was my best may even sneak up a few places so hoping at best for a top 30 placing. Satisfied as I needed to play the qualifiers to get in so effectively I'll have beaten off (not literally) the entire TGCT field to climb to these dizzy heights, updating my CV as we speak.
Reading some of the other posts in this thread I find it quite bizarre how people are so aggrieved and appear to be blaming everything other than the fact they couldn't keep up with the field when it matters.
My opinion:
Wind - The players at the top will always be at the top regardless of wind patch or no wind patch, I regularly play against daddyjules's ghost on xbox and no matter whether I wait, whether he's playing in 14-15 and I'm playing in 2-4 he will consistently better my score, pure and simple, he's better than me. But sometimes, just sometimes I can take advantage when he slips up and to that end I still have a chance. FYI I played all four rounds at the weekend with the wind at whatever it should have been.
Unplayable Course - This is a Major, what the f###k do you expect, read the course, plan your shots and know your yardage to the finest detail, I found virtually all the greens on this course most of the time just couldn't hold my putts. And that isn't the greens, that's down to the fact I just seem to have lost my putter, I read and read until I talk myself out of it, watch the Open this weekend and see how many two or three putts there are compared to 30/40 ft rollers.
If we standardize the wind, course conditions, green indicators and anything else people gripe about, each tourney will end with the same half dozen golfers at -22 week in week out, please don't turn this into EA TW.
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Post by hershalcrustofsk on Jun 18, 2015 10:18:26 GMT -5
First off, congrats to Brian on this fine golf course. I was planning on playing the Euro Event since it's on one of my courses, so I didn't get any practice rounds in before finding out I had to play the US Open. Man I'm glad I did course was awesome, probably my favorite one I've played, Kudos Brian. I played ok went -10 on rounds 1 & 2 and -10 on 3 & 4, got an ace in round 3, so should finish up alright. Looking forward to seeing what the winning score is, best of luck to those in contention.
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Post by PSU-Cappy on Jun 18, 2015 10:29:30 GMT -5
I'll have beaten off (not literally) the entire TGCT field
touche
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