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Post by SweetTeeBag on Jul 23, 2019 7:30:23 GMT -5
We need courses like this or harder 50% of the time
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Post by rob4590 on Jul 23, 2019 8:07:52 GMT -5
My only request is that HB official courses are permanently banned from being used on any tour - since HB have no clue how to set pin positions so they aren't on red/yellow slopes when you use fast greens!
(6th hole two weeks ago in R4, 18th hole in TST in R4 this week)
Utter joke courses compared to anything tour worthy produced by the community.....
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Jul 23, 2019 8:12:44 GMT -5
My only request is that HB official courses are permanently banned from being used on any tour - since HB have no clue how to set pin positions so they aren't on red/yellow slopes when you use fast greens! (6th hole two weeks ago in R4, 18th hole in TST in R4 this week) Utter joke courses compared to anything tour worthy produced by the community..... I kind of took that as a given. After the catastrophe from a few weeks ago, I just assumed we wouldn't be seeing any more HB official courses on tour, but guess I could be wrong about that.
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Post by mde8965 on Jul 23, 2019 8:16:41 GMT -5
My only request is that HB official courses are permanently banned from being used on any tour - since HB have no clue how to set pin positions so they aren't on red/yellow slopes when you use fast greens! (6th hole two weeks ago in R4, 18th hole in TST in R4 this week) Utter joke courses compared to anything tour worthy produced by the community..... LOL AGREED!
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Post by gamesdecent on Jul 23, 2019 11:05:33 GMT -5
#1 and #18 run in opposite directions, so both shouldn't be unreachable in the same round. That being said, the "prevailing wind" set up I designed it under was judged to be too samey over 4 rounds so it may not be playing QUITE as intended. But even so, it's not like the occasional par 4.5 isn't a thing IRL too... #1 and #18 would likely be 5's for the members/everyday play, 4's for the pros, and if HB would give us the ability to set tees and pars differently by pinset we could tweak it by round and conditions just like the USGA does. I do get the frustration though, especially since there's only two par 5's on the course.
I'm glad it's getting the play though, even if the reception ranges all the way from "beauty" to "vasectomy" haha.
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Post by CuseHokie on Jul 23, 2019 11:38:24 GMT -5
#1 and #18 run in opposite directions, so both shouldn't be unreachable in the same round. That being said, the "prevailing wind" set up I designed it under was judged to be too samey over 4 rounds so it may not be playing QUITE as intended. But even so, it's not like the occasional par 4.5 isn't a thing IRL too... #1 and #18 would likely be 5's for the members/everyday play, 4's for the pros, and if HB would give us the ability to set tees and pars differently by pinset we could tweak it by round and conditions just like the USGA does. I do get the frustration though, especially since there's only two par 5's on the course. I'm glad it's getting the play though, even if the reception ranges all the way from "beauty" to "vasectomy" haha. If HB allowed different tee set for different rounds, you could have 25 mph winds with a diff tee on hole 1 for example. Instead we had 575 yard par4s effectively so the act is just tiring.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Jul 23, 2019 11:51:13 GMT -5
#1 and #18 run in opposite directions, so both shouldn't be unreachable in the same round. That being said, the "prevailing wind" set up I designed it under was judged to be too samey over 4 rounds so it may not be playing QUITE as intended. But even so, it's not like the occasional par 4.5 isn't a thing IRL too... #1 and #18 would likely be 5's for the members/everyday play, 4's for the pros, and if HB would give us the ability to set tees and pars differently by pinset we could tweak it by round and conditions just like the USGA does. I do get the frustration though, especially since there's only two par 5's on the course. I'm glad it's getting the play though, even if the reception ranges all the way from "beauty" to "vasectomy" haha. I'll only speak for myself, but my comments in here aren't about this course in particular at all really, just an overriding philosophy on how we're setting up these events. It's a fun, tough course, that's mostly fair, with a few...fun...pins I present, for the Jury's consideration, exhibit A:
Wasn't an issue for me since my shot ended up spinning enough to stop 3in's from death, but you get what I mean.
Anyway, finished up, enjoyed the course, every round wasn't setup perfectly with the previously discussed winds and direction, but not anything anyone should lose sleep over - at the end of the day, it's just a game. Should have easily been 4-6 shots better over the final 2 rounds, some of my best ball striking in a long time. Unfortunately the flat stick wouldn't cooperate, though, but that's 100% on me.
GL all to finish, and congrats to all who qualified for this select field event.
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Post by mde8965 on Jul 23, 2019 12:31:12 GMT -5
#1 and #18 run in opposite directions, so both shouldn't be unreachable in the same round. That being said, the "prevailing wind" set up I designed it under was judged to be too samey over 4 rounds so it may not be playing QUITE as intended. But even so, it's not like the occasional par 4.5 isn't a thing IRL too... #1 and #18 would likely be 5's for the members/everyday play, 4's for the pros, and if HB would give us the ability to set tees and pars differently by pinset we could tweak it by round and conditions just like the USGA does. I do get the frustration though, especially since there's only two par 5's on the course. I'm glad it's getting the play though, even if the reception ranges all the way from "beauty" to "vasectomy" haha. Sometimes we PGA fellas are an entitled bunch. I personally donโt like pot bunkers all in the landing zones. Other than that no criticisms. I aporeciate you designers for all the work you do to complete these courses for our enjoyment. Congrats on having it chosen for the tour! And thank you sir for what you do!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 13:14:38 GMT -5
#1 and #18 run in opposite directions, so both shouldn't be unreachable in the same round. That being said, the "prevailing wind" set up I designed it under was judged to be too samey over 4 rounds so it may not be playing QUITE as intended. But even so, it's not like the occasional par 4.5 isn't a thing IRL too... #1 and #18 would likely be 5's for the members/everyday play, 4's for the pros, and if HB would give us the ability to set tees and pars differently by pinset we could tweak it by round and conditions just like the USGA does. I do get the frustration though, especially since there's only two par 5's on the course. I'm glad it's getting the play though, even if the reception ranges all the way from "beauty" to "vasectomy" haha. If HB allowed different tee set for different rounds, you could have 25 mph winds with a diff tee on hole 1 for example. Instead we had 575 yard par4s effectively so the act is just tiring. The worst thing HB did was to get rid of "Tours" from TGC1. At least you could change the tee box location then.I made a course for TGC1 and if the pin was tucked at the front I would move the tee up so it was a short iron in and not a 5 wood. Ideally they would let us choose the tees for each round of an event then the designer could have that colour at a different spot for each hole instead of black tees being all the longest and red all the shortest. The total length of thecourse would be about the same for all 4 rounds but each hole would play different and you could make some par 4's driveable risk reward if you wanted. Lets be honest, having the same tee shot all 4 rounds is dull unless theres 20+mph wind. Sorry for invading the big boy thread, I'll head back down to economy class.
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Post by wmr5277 on Jul 23, 2019 13:28:48 GMT -5
If HB allowed different tee set for different rounds, you could have 25 mph winds with a diff tee on hole 1 for example. Instead we had 575 yard par4s effectively so the act is just tiring. The worst thing HB did was to get rid of "Tours" from TGC1. At least you could change the tee box location then.I made a course for TGC1 and if the pin was tucked at the front I would move the tee up so it was a short iron in and not a 5 wood. Ideally they would let us choose the tees for each round of an event then the designer could have that colour at a different spot for each hole instead of black tees being all the longest and red all the shortest. The total length of thecourse would be about the same for all 4 rounds but each hole would play different and you could make some par 4's driveable risk reward if you wanted. Lets be honest, having the same tee shot all 4 rounds is dull unless theres 20+mph wind. Sorry for invading the big boy thread, I'll head back down to economy class. Best post I've seen in the forums in quite sometime. This is 1000% the issue. The handicap system is unbelievably broken anyways (ie: your handicap at a course will come out the exact same whether you shoot 60 from 5000 yard tees or 60 from 7500 yard tees)...so HB letting there be an option available allowing schedulers to move the tees on each round would solve all issues.
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Post by fadgewacker on Jul 23, 2019 16:36:09 GMT -5
If HB allowed different tee set for different rounds, you could have 25 mph winds with a diff tee on hole 1 for example. Instead we had 575 yard par4s effectively so the act is just tiring. The worst thing HB did was to get rid of "Tours" from TGC1. At least you could change the tee box location then.I made a course for TGC1 and if the pin was tucked at the front I would move the tee up so it was a short iron in and not a 5 wood. Ideally they would let us choose the tees for each round of an event then the designer could have that colour at a different spot for each hole instead of black tees being all the longest and red all the shortest. The total length of thecourse would be about the same for all 4 rounds but each hole would play different and you could make some par 4's driveable risk reward if you wanted. Lets be honest, having the same tee shot all 4 rounds is dull unless theres 20+mph wind. Sorry for invading the big boy thread, I'll head back down to economy class. Be gone, peasant!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 17:16:46 GMT -5
The worst thing HB did was to get rid of "Tours" from TGC1. At least you could change the tee box location then.I made a course for TGC1 and if the pin was tucked at the front I would move the tee up so it was a short iron in and not a 5 wood. Ideally they would let us choose the tees for each round of an event then the designer could have that colour at a different spot for each hole instead of black tees being all the longest and red all the shortest. The total length of thecourse would be about the same for all 4 rounds but each hole would play different and you could make some par 4's driveable risk reward if you wanted. Lets be honest, having the same tee shot all 4 rounds is dull unless theres 20+mph wind. Sorry for invading the big boy thread, I'll head back down to economy class. Best post I've seen in the forums in quite sometime. This is 1000% the issue. The handicap system is unbelievably broken anyways (ie: your handicap at a course will come out the exact same whether you shoot 60 from 5000 yard tees or 60 from 7500 yard tees)...so HB letting there be an option available allowing schedulers to move the tees on each round would solve all issues. I just put a thread over on HB forums about giving that option if they make another game. No idea if that has already been requested as I haven't been in that forum since last year. I doubt they will do it as I remember I asked the same thing when TGC2 came out and they had removed tours. Good to see Griffin is still lurking in here, hope all's well. This peasant will now leave the building.
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Post by wmr5277 on Jul 23, 2019 22:29:44 GMT -5
Got in my 4 rounds tonight as I'll be travelling for work the next few days. Can't ever play this game rushing. It ruins you everytime. And I got ruined this tournament.
Had perhaps my worst round of my tgc 2019 career in round 2 with a 33% gir. Just one of those tournaments where I couldn't ever chip in and missed a bunch of short putts. Found most of my putts with incredible amounts of break at/near hole. Which I don't mind. But I just couldn't make enough putts I should make.
I'm one of the few it seems who really likes playing in the wind. I got much more worn out from the course then I did the wind.
As for the course; it was decent. Certainly looked better then it played imo. I'm all for crazy greens. But not when I'm coming in with cannons and long irons and the pins are on plateaus with red slopes kicking balls 50 feet away or off green if you barely miss your spot. A bit much over 72 holes.
Anyways, good luck to those still to play!
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Post by Generic_Casual on Jul 24, 2019 0:00:28 GMT -5
After a DNF last week in The Open for family reasons, it looks like I'll finish this event dead last. ๐๐
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Post by CuseHokie on Jul 24, 2019 5:00:40 GMT -5
After a DNF last week in The Open for family reasons, it looks like I'll finish this event dead last. ๐๐ Top50 is nothing to be ashamed of.
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