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Post by Dave on Dec 8, 2018 6:44:48 GMT -5
Ok so I thought broomhandles putters were banned. But still, I’ve used the same method since the first game game out and never had any issues or anyone crying over short swinging. I guess because the so called “elite” players don’t like the fact that us regulars can now keep up with them, it gives them something to point the accusing finger at. It’s not exploiting a flaw if you’ve been doing it long before this game came out. And frankly some people’s constant b%&ing about it is embarrassing. Blame HB, not the people using it. Using an exploit to match the ‘elite’ guys must give you a real sense of satisfaction 👌🏻 For a start, just because you can “flick” it doesn’t automatically mean you’ll start shooting -60 in every event. For a second, I got to 24 in he world in TGC when the flick was an unknown entity. Third, “flicking” is just another way of swinging the club, it’s doesnt mean you’re guaranteed to hit straight shots, otherwise everyone who flicked would be pulled by API. Fourth, this is exactly the sort of attitude that’s getting on my tits. If I’m exploiting the game, then why was no one crying in the previous two games?
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Post by GW_Hope on Dec 8, 2018 7:25:38 GMT -5
Cyclerob, here is the swing video I promised. Pretty simple to get a full line and no issues. I promise no Snuggie images either! FIXED I think This is not your guy’s fault it’s on HB for changing the programming of the swing line. I am merely.showing how you can swing a full line and avoid some api issues .It's not hard to do. Just hold on to the analog longer and/or don't let go so early.
Just remember... Back in TGC1 when a decent % of the PS4 user base was caught up in the "swinggate" they put out something similar, almost in a mocking manner of how "simple" it is to do. What they didn't have are people who naturally swing with a light touch. That is what caused those non-swings.
Also, just like it may be simple to you and it is difficult for others, the same flipped around can be said about you not able to do a flick swing and we can.
See how that works the other way around?
He asked how to get a full line! I showed it is simple to get a full line. Whether it’s straight And perfecr like a flick I doubt it. Not sure how many times I have to say it. I don’t blame this on you guys or think you are exploiting on purpose . HB changed the game and it is an advantage now. If it wasn’t there wouldn’t be problems. Right? . Flick away all you want. I am sure HB knows about the issue. We’ll see if they care to fix it. Good Luck, or Lick for some!
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Post by GW_Hope on Dec 8, 2018 7:46:04 GMT -5
Using an exploit to match the ‘elite’ guys must give you a real sense of satisfaction 👌🏻 For a start, just because you can “flick” it doesn’t automatically mean you’ll start shooting -60 in every event. For a second, I got to 24 in he world in TGC when the flick was an unknown entity. Third, “flicking” is just another way of swinging the club, it’s doesnt mean you’re guaranteed to hit straight shots, otherwise everyone who flicked would be pulled by API. Fourth, this is exactly the sort of attitude that’s getting on my tits. If I’m exploiting the game, then why was no one crying in the previous two games? Well he did hit 18 down the pipe in a round. Previously HB added difficulty to those type of swings by extending the line I believe. I really can’t believe you are arguing the fact that it’s not an advantage. Anyhow, I am done discussing it. Use at your own risk.
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Post by wmr5277 on Dec 8, 2018 8:00:39 GMT -5
This flick talk nonsense is exhausting so i'll switch it up...
Congrats on another win Justin. Well played sir!
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Post by Dave on Dec 8, 2018 8:43:02 GMT -5
For a start, just because you can “flick” it doesn’t automatically mean you’ll start shooting -60 in every event. For a second, I got to 24 in he world in TGC when the flick was an unknown entity. Third, “flicking” is just another way of swinging the club, it’s doesnt mean you’re guaranteed to hit straight shots, otherwise everyone who flicked would be pulled by API. Fourth, this is exactly the sort of attitude that’s getting on my tits. If I’m exploiting the game, then why was no one crying in the previous two games? Well he did hit 18 down the pipe in a round. Previously HB added difficulty tonight those type of swings by extending the line I believe. I really can’t believe you are arguing the fact that it’s not an advantage. Anyhow, I am done discussing it. Use at your own risk. Well he’s obviously doing something different to me then!
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Post by Cyclerob on Dec 8, 2018 9:02:54 GMT -5
Well he did hit 18 down the pipe in a round. Previously HB added difficulty tonight those type of swings by extending the line I believe. I really can’t believe you are arguing the fact that it’s not an advantage. Anyhow, I am done discussing it. Use at your own risk. Well he’s obviously doing something different to me then! I have no idea how come my API results come up like that Dave... Seriously doubting that I'm doing anything much different than you... Hell, I'm using a DS4 plugged in via USB and holding my controller upright! Regarding the swing shown in the video, I'll try to adapt to do something like that... but it looks sooo un-natural to me... I mean went you hit a golf ball you have to be super relax, make a smooth backswing, accelerate through impact, then decelerate on the follow throught... In the video it looks like you have to keep accelerate until you hit the end of the stick travel, then stop to "0" and hold... Very weird to me!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 9:10:27 GMT -5
But it still creates potential advantages, such as making the stroke simpler and more repeatable. So who goes around to everyone's places around the world to police this?
Right, impossible.
So back to the API.
They (here) make it more stringent and I get flagged then I accept it, and then I move on to learn a new swing and look at using a different DS4(s). Pretty much what I told myself before the season started.
I was bored at work last night Bob, wasn't being serious Or was you the keeper after throwing Dave back in the pond? Congrats to Justin, doubled the minor tour event score. Should flip flop them next week for comparison.
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Post by Cyclerob on Dec 8, 2018 9:24:06 GMT -5
Cyclerob, here is the swing video I promised. Pretty simple to get a full line and no issues. I promise no Snuggie images either! FIXED I think This is not your guy’s fault it’s on HB for changing the programming of the swing line. I am merely.showing how you can swing a full line and avoid some api issues .It's not hard to do. Just hold on to the analog longer and/or don't let go so early.
Just remember... Back in TGC1 when a decent % of the PS4 user base was caught up in the "swinggate" they put out something similar, almost in a mocking manner of how "simple" it is to do. What they didn't have are people who naturally swing with a light touch. That is what caused those non-swings.
Also, just like it may be simple to you and it is difficult for others, the same flipped around can be said about you not able to do a flick swing and we can.
See how that works the other way around?
Yup... I do apply very very light pressure on the stick when I swing. And yup, applying more pressure is hard for me... It feels very un-natural and illogical to me! As if you were trying to "guide" you real golf swing instead of making a smooth swing and trusting it! But I'll try to adapt!
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Post by staypuft39 on Dec 8, 2018 9:40:44 GMT -5
It feels very un-natural and illogical to me! As if you were trying to "guide" you real golf swing instead of making a smooth swing and trusting it! But I'll try to adapt! You might find there are a few subtle differences between this and real golf. Like how one you swing a club while outside and standing up and one you are on your couch in a snuggie moving your thumb as lightly as possible. Illogical, I know, but I know you can adapt.
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Post by fadgewacker on Dec 8, 2018 10:13:16 GMT -5
Using an exploit to match the ‘elite’ guys must give you a real sense of satisfaction 👌🏻 For a start, just because you can “flick” it doesn’t automatically mean you’ll start shooting -60 in every event. For a second, I got to 24 in he world in TGC when the flick was an unknown entity. Third, “flicking” is just another way of swinging the club, it’s doesnt mean you’re guaranteed to hit straight shots, otherwise everyone who flicked would be pulled by API. Fourth, this is exactly the sort of attitude that’s getting on my tits. If I’m exploiting the game, then why was no one crying in the previous two games? I fully agree with what Dave is saying here. It’s not auto straight, and those that were very good players before will have seen a marginal enhancement in their game with this version of the swing. Those who were twatting it all over will have seen a big improvement 😂 Regardless those that are playing with this swing are doing nothing wrong as things stand. The game has changed... nobody is cheating by playing the way they have always played. If that way is currently causing issues with API, it needs to be addressed on a case by case basis until anything changes. I agree, in its current form, it’s a swing issue, but also think the witch hunting is getting a bit boring. It’s ONLY within the power of HB to do something. If they don’t, then well... Carry on folks 😊
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Post by GW_Hope on Dec 8, 2018 10:48:11 GMT -5
I am on a Pro and a few friends too. All full lines Not calling anybody out but there is something not right. Where did you get the controllers? Are they frauds? Please give me your trick in how to get full lines in the swing feedback. For the life of me I haven't figured it out yet... Tried many ways without consistante results! Please 😁 No witch hunt, just helping out somebody asking for it. ✌🏼
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Post by fadgewacker on Dec 8, 2018 14:07:36 GMT -5
Please give me your trick in how to get full lines in the swing feedback. For the life of me I haven't figured it out yet... Tried many ways without consistante results! Please 😁 No witch hunt, just helping out somebody asking for it. ✌🏼 I suppose witch hunting is the wrong word and nothing levelled at you John, but there is a “flicking / short swing” issue that is becoming increasingly elevated, and is probably causing a bit of bad feeling on the tour. In the end, everyone knows what the short swing can do in 2019. Some have always done it, some may have recently adopted it, some may have stopped doing it. But until HB changes anything, or any ruling is made against it in some way, the conversations we have here about it amount to nothing, because as things stand, API pulls aside, nobody is doing anything wrong 😐 Nobody is going to change anything they’re doing without admin direction or HB change. What I do know, is it’s unlikely to affect the way I play the game right now, so I’ll just keep practicing and one day maybe get better at not bottling it when it counts.
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Post by Cyclerob on Dec 8, 2018 15:39:59 GMT -5
Btw regarding the DQ thing and stats, when you get the email it tell that your score has been removed and the event doesn't count as if you didn't play. Yet it gets in your stats for the percentage of cuts made. Meaning I played 3 events were my scores were ok and I made all the cuts, but I'm showing 4 events played and 75% of the cuts made. Can this be looked at? Thanks.
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Dec 9, 2018 1:13:47 GMT -5
Congratulations B.Smooth13 VWP Buddy Well Played All Top Tenner's
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Post by fadgewacker on Dec 9, 2018 3:15:03 GMT -5
Might get to play with you legends next week... you never know
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