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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 14:20:51 GMT -5
I’m on XBox, I just do what I described as a ‘normal’ swing. I pull it back quite firmly until it hits the plastic, then wait for the animation to catch up, then push it forward quite firmly to the plastic. For me tempo is tough, but I think that’s the fact I’m on XBox rather than a problem with what I’m doing. I don’t always get a full line, particularly on putts, chips, flops and pitches - but I play them below 100% to make the tempo easier if I can. That was kinda the point I was getting at - can you make it produce a full line on a normal full swing? Not including the short game. If you can’t then that’s a whole different issue. I can If everyone can, it should simply be the onus of the player to produce a swing that shows a full line I think. If the short swing is showing zero deviation then it should be banned. Again, just my 2c.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 17, 2018 14:23:06 GMT -5
You are right, the point isn't the four in a row. By the way thanks and a kudos to Sloaner who showed us what is possible. What is the scary part is being able to do that type of swing and then adjust slightly so the API can't pick it up, once again like Sloan showed. Not that hard it seems. Or just having wonky swings ironed out straight, unknowingly...
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Post by itsmb8 on Nov 17, 2018 14:24:04 GMT -5
You are right, the point isn't the four in a row. By the way thanks and a kudos to Sloaner who showed us what is possible. What is the scary part is being able to do that type of swing and then adjust slightly so the API can't pick it up, once again like Sloan showed. Not that hard it seems. It depends, for me it will probably be really difficult because I personally push and hold at the top, so before I came across the short swinging here, I never knew that was remotely possible. Just seems really awkward to flick the stick anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 14:26:45 GMT -5
Ps only need a final round of -25 to tie for the lead. That seems doable... Get those flick muscles warmed up!
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 17, 2018 14:35:49 GMT -5
If everyone can, it should simply be the onus of the player to produce a swing that shows a full line I think. If the short swing is showing zero deviation then it should be banned. Again, just my 2c. That’s what I’ve done mate. Changed to a long swing as I was told my short swing wouldn’t pass the API. I was actually given the EXACT example of the belly putter when it happened. All short swings do not deviate by zero. Few do in fact. But when you can only go wonky over 1/3 of the feedback window, if your swing is wayward, then that’s where the unfair advantage is, where a straight short swinger could be DQ’d.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 14:38:48 GMT -5
If everyone can, it should simply be the onus of the player to produce a swing that shows a full line I think. If the short swing is showing zero deviation then it should be banned. Again, just my 2c. That’s what I’ve done mate. Changed to a long swing as I was told my short swing wouldn’t pass the API. I was actually given the EXACT example of the belly putter when it happened. All short swings do not deviate by zero. Few do in fact. But when you can only go wonky over 1/3 of the feedback window, if your swing is wayward, then that’s where the unfair advantage is, where a straight short swinger could be DQ’d. Right. So is the problem that the data we get doesn’t show who is short swinging, just who does it really well. If the API can pick up the short swing then I don’t see a problem.
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Post by Cyclerob on Nov 17, 2018 14:46:29 GMT -5
I’m on XBox, I just do what I described as a ‘normal’ swing. I pull it back quite firmly until it hits the plastic, then wait for the animation to catch up, then push it forward quite firmly to the plastic. For me tempo is tough, but I think that’s the fact I’m on XBox rather than a problem with what I’m doing. I don’t always get a full line, particularly on putts, chips, flops and pitches - but I play them below 100% to make the tempo easier if I can. That was kinda the point I was getting at - can you make it produce a full line on a normal full swing? Not including the short game. If you can’t then that’s a whole different issue. I can I can't for now... Not getting a completed swing consistently, haven't figured it out yet!. Btw, watch out for that new DS4... Doesn't mean cause they ok'ed it for a casual round that it'll pass tournament play. Stiffer mechanisms when new... They do help keeping it straighter!
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 17, 2018 14:47:39 GMT -5
That’s what I’ve done mate. Changed to a long swing as I was told my short swing wouldn’t pass the API. I was actually given the EXACT example of the belly putter when it happened. All short swings do not deviate by zero. Few do in fact. But when you can only go wonky over 1/3 of the feedback window, if your swing is wayward, then that’s where the unfair advantage is, where a straight short swinger could be DQ’d. Right. So is the problem that the data we get doesn’t show who is short swinging, just who does it really well. If the API can pick up the short swing then I don’t see a problem. API can only pick up dispersion. Not short swings. Hence a straight short swing will be an outlying API result in certain cases.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 14:52:58 GMT -5
Right. So is the problem that the data we get doesn’t show who is short swinging, just who does it really well. If the API can pick up the short swing then I don’t see a problem. API can only pick up dispersion. Not short swings. Hence a straight short swing will be an outlying API result in certain cases. So there’s our problem. Neville Allthumbs can do it to make himself better than he would be and it won’t pick him up, but Darren Dextrous does it and it improves his already good swing to a zero deviation. Kinda hard to move it on without an admin contributing - but if it’s showing a short line on screen, surely that info can be given to TGCT and acted on.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Nov 17, 2018 14:55:56 GMT -5
Remember when derailed threads where only Irish players fault?
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Post by mrohde4 on Nov 17, 2018 15:03:33 GMT -5
I’d pay handsomely for a Bob B. #flickgate interview on Tuesday’s tv show.
Anyone know the contact info for Bob’s booking agent? #content
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 15:11:56 GMT -5
Remember when derailed threads where only Irish players fault? It's just part of the culture now
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Nov 17, 2018 15:16:36 GMT -5
Remember when derailed threads where only Irish players fault? The good old days, when the banter was less about "facts" and "data" and other boring things, and more about me figuring out whatever curse word/insult was used that I hadn't ever heard of before.
Also, finished up round 4, nearly had that -25...well, not really, but fine with the round considering I literally got sh%$ on by the newest member of my family after hole #7
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Post by Brighttail on Nov 17, 2018 15:17:44 GMT -5
If I can completely redesign a swing from the ground up, a swing that has been the same since TGC 1 and TGC 2, then I have very little sympathy for anyone who has to change their swing up completely. This is especially true if an older swing is offering a 'super' advantage over other swings. How the admin would enforce this, I have no idea but I think something will have to be changed. BTW this is coming from someone who has had to completely change his swing, the same swing I used from TGC 1 to something that I would consider unrecognizable from the original. It has been 2 months of pain and frustration to say the least.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Nov 17, 2018 15:42:49 GMT -5
Wait...are Gemini (Brad) and I the only 2 non-PS4 players in the top 20?!? Or am I missing someone else?
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