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Post by greyosprey on Oct 11, 2018 1:34:35 GMT -5
I flick the thumbstick forward rather than push it. It's a technique I developed in TGC2. I imagine that many players are doing this -- much more than the 2% figure that Doyley is saying might be flagged. I do something similar. I have my 1st finger and thumb lightly holding the top & bottom of the stick. I feel like I use more pressure with my finger on backswing and more pressure with thumb on downswing. According to shot feedback, I have a natural slightly fast backswing and slightly slow downswing. So I have to concentrate on going back slow, then accelerating on downswing. It doesn't feel right, but that's what works. A few times a round, my thumb will slip off the stick when I try to aggressively push forward. Then I'm at the mercy of whatever it picks up. Lol. As to the original post, my swing looks more like one, but with a hook at the top (like a 7). And sometimes it looks like I'm playing connect the dots. In the blue, but all jagged and bent. Probably need a new controller. Lol.
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Post by lessangster on Oct 11, 2018 3:05:04 GMT -5
We're referring to partial downswings (not backswings). People are stopping shortly after passing the center position - likely limiting the amount of data given for the downswing. The end result can be enough to trigger fair play in some cases. Which is why we say use that technique at your own risk should you be using it. There are many other variables at play too - and while we always want to take everyone at face value and trust they're telling us the truth this is the internet and there are always exceptions to every case. So our metrics will be fair and firm - again, the extreme majority 98%+ will have nothing to worry about. Doyley Your talking about it maybe picking up less data on a curtailed downswing but I’ve had it where I’ve hit the plastic at the end and the stick has bounced back and it’s picked that up as well and applied it to the swing giving me an almighty push to the right usually. IMO the swing should be over when it hits that stop and the game should stop gathering data. I’m going to carry on playing the way I am and if it’s not good enough then I will drop off the tours, it’s not as if I’m one of the top players and winning every week. So if you want to check my data from that Euro exhibition event knock yourself out and give me feed back on if I pass or fail before we start the season. Thank you in advance Xbox - GT MDH Rem
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Post by greyosprey on Oct 11, 2018 16:29:03 GMT -5
Played a little bit before work and noticed that if I hold the stick forward on the downswing until the ball is hit, my results seem to be more consistent and actually straighter. I don't get the downward line at the top of the swing circle.
Previously I was letting go of the stick as soon as I hit the top of the controller and would get these occassional jagged lines going sideways or even back down.
Could be a placebo and I was jyst swinging good. I'll try it out some more after work.
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Post by cathalos1991 on Oct 12, 2018 1:10:06 GMT -5
I Don't slam my controller stick forward, I move from backdating swing to downswing nice and quick to keep my tempo in check but before the swing is fully finished I've taken my thumb away.
All it's doing is decreasing the margin for error. I do the same with my putting technique. My putting lines are incredibly small, I will never have the line full, I purposefully putt so that the line is as small as possible so that risk of error is so small. Still can't putt for sh%$ though - but getting better.
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Post by frank70 on Oct 12, 2018 1:52:50 GMT -5
I am a flicker as well. I produce a lot of lines like they look in the first two pictures. I am a thumb only player and i let go of the stick before it hits the front plastic. If i wouldn't do it that way i would have to move my hands slightly in the process - what would result in a wayward shot.
If that is labeled cheating .... then goodbye TGCT.
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Post by lessangster on Oct 12, 2018 2:07:11 GMT -5
Looks like there are a few of us going to be called out by the API, in my defence my line isn’t that straight even in the bit that shows. My FIR is around about 63% as is my GIR so I’m not that good.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 12, 2018 2:31:33 GMT -5
I think what il say, while meaning no disrespect to anybody down the WGR ladder - if you’re a top 100 or so player and you use this technique - beware. It’s much more likely you’ll be flagged if you have pretty good lines AND do this.
All my opinion of course.
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Post by cathalos1991 on Oct 12, 2018 2:35:11 GMT -5
Well I'm going to continue to play and if the API flags me then I'll just bail on it. Have used the analog like that since I started playing golf games so not going to be changing it
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Oct 12, 2018 2:41:27 GMT -5
I think what il say, while meaning no disrespect to anybody down the WGR ladder - if you’re a top 100 or so player and you use this technique - beware. It’s much more likely you’ll be flagged if you have pretty good lines AND do this. All my opinion of course. Agree, be afraid, be very afraid
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Post by lessangster on Oct 12, 2018 2:56:16 GMT -5
I think what il say, while meaning no disrespect to anybody down the WGR ladder - if you’re a top 100 or so player and you use this technique - beware. It’s much more likely you’ll be flagged if you have pretty good lines AND do this. All my opinion of course. Agree, be afraid, be very afraid Nowt to be afraid of your only getting chucked out of a video game not being shot at dawn. 😜
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 2:58:16 GMT -5
I think what il say, while meaning no disrespect to anybody down the WGR ladder - if you’re a top 100 or so player and you use this technique - beware. It’s much more likely you’ll be flagged if you have pretty good lines AND do this. All my opinion of course. Agree, be afraid, be very afraid A side effect of all this is I foresee honest players' twitch stream chats seeing a lot of this in a few months: spitefulgranddad69: "wtf that was a blatant short downswing!" xXxIrish_pot_stirrerxXx: "ah he's a known flicker to be sure, oi tink it's a feckin disgrace dat de admins are allowin dis" oledirtywhiner: "A friend of my uncle's milkman's daughter said there's a script on the dark web that can auto-flick without the API detecting it, smh what some players will do just to win " habs25cup: "mmmm, what is we have here, a flicky flicky stick time"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 3:41:07 GMT -5
I hit the plastic on backswing and downswing, and have quite a few finish up short on the display. Not going to worry about it until I get flagged. I tried the ‘power a’ controller that failed the API on TGC2 and it passed according to Doyley, but the lines looked a little too straight to me so I’ll stick with my old wireless original XBone controller that is looser than Courtney Love.
I don’t think what we see on the screen matters as much as the data the admins get. Let the computer do it’s thing and check.
Is not practicing much considered sandbagging??? 😂
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 12, 2018 3:59:04 GMT -5
I hit the plastic on backswing and downswing, and have quite a few finish up short on the display. Not going to worry about it until I get flagged. I tried the ‘power a’ controller that failed the API on TGC2 and it passed according to Doyley, but the lines looked a little too straight to me so I’ll stick with my old wireless original XBone controller that is looser than Courtney Love. I don’t think what we see on the screen matters as much as the data the admins get. Let the computer do it’s thing and check. Is not practicing much considered sandbagging??? 😂 Sandbagger
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 12, 2018 4:02:46 GMT -5
I am a flicker as well. I produce a lot of lines like they look in the first two pictures. I am a thumb only player and i let go of the stick before it hits the front plastic. If i wouldn't do it that way i would have to move my hands slightly in the process - what would result in a wayward shot. If that is labeled cheating .... then goodbye TGCT. I don't think anybody is labelling it cheating Frank. It's raising flags on the API is all that has been said. I've been notified about my swing, and it turns out it seems that short swinging is the reason. I've since started to play with a longer swing, which passes the API. I'm much worse off for it, but at least I can have a crack. What I'm a bit unsure on is why it's an issue all of a sudden. Maybe, one day, we'll be allowed to flick without dark thoughts entering our minds once more... #prayforflickers
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Post by frank70 on Oct 12, 2018 4:15:23 GMT -5
I am a flicker as well. I produce a lot of lines like they look in the first two pictures. I am a thumb only player and i let go of the stick before it hits the front plastic. If i wouldn't do it that way i would have to move my hands slightly in the process - what would result in a wayward shot. If that is labeled cheating .... then goodbye TGCT. I don't think anybody is labelling it cheating Frank. It's raising flags on the API is all that has been said. I've been notified about my swing, and it turns out it seems that short swinging is the reason. I've since started to play with a longer swing, which passes the API. I'm much worse off for it, but at least I can have a crack. What I'm a bit unsure on is why it's an issue all of a sudden. Maybe, one day, we'll be allowed to flick without dark thoughts entering our minds once more... #prayforflickers Could anyone check my API-results in the next test tournaments please?? Is that in the Euro and in the Web society? i will play them in the next days.
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