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Post by Art Vandelay on Oct 22, 2018 14:07:00 GMT -5
I am going full bore with masters and FULLY expect to be in CC-PRO/AM neighborhood. Cause I have a game hdcp of ~4-5, meaning I shoot around par in easy conditions (going as well as -4 or 6) then struggling mightily in tougher conditions (which I full expect to see in TGCT rounds no matter the level). No way my game is good enough for the pro circuit. I will ALWAYS try my best, but let's get real folks.
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Post by Sassy Lady on Oct 22, 2018 14:12:15 GMT -5
I mean no disrespect, but that is not something that makes sense to me. I just don't understand this approach to competitiveness at all, but to each their own. I want to compete. But I cannot meaningfully compete on the Web.com level. I'll always be in the lower half of the pack. The majority of times, I won't even make the cut. This may be competing, but if you think that it is meaningfully competing, then we have different definitions of the term "meaningfully". So I guess it's like you said, To each their own.
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Post by Sassy Lady on Oct 22, 2018 14:16:17 GMT -5
I am going full bore with masters and FULLY expect to be in CC-PRO/AM neighborhood. Cause I have a game hdcp of ~4-5, meaning I shoot around par in easy conditions (going as well as -4 or 6) then struggling mightily in tougher conditions (which I full expect to see in TGCT rounds no matter the level). No way my game is good enough for the pro circuit. I will ALWAYS try my best, but let's get real folks. My handicap right now is +10.3. And I have no idea how it got there. I'm not a scratch player. HB really botched the handicap assignment system. Either that or I'm just one of the ones who fell through the cracks.
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Post by TimB on Oct 22, 2018 14:20:27 GMT -5
My handicap right now is +10.3. And I have no idea how it got there. I'm not a scratch player. HB really botched the handicap assignment system. Either that or I'm just one of the ones who fell through the cracks. Before my rounds on q-school my handicap was around +12.3'ish. No idea how I got to that silly number. Now after my Q rounds I'm in the +9 area, which is still too high considering how crappy I am
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Post by Art Vandelay on Oct 22, 2018 14:20:32 GMT -5
I am going full bore with masters and FULLY expect to be in CC-PRO/AM neighborhood. Cause I have a game hdcp of ~4-5, meaning I shoot around par in easy conditions (going as well as -4 or 6) then struggling mightily in tougher conditions (which I full expect to see in TGCT rounds no matter the level). No way my game is good enough for the pro circuit. I will ALWAYS try my best, but let's get real folks. My handicap right now is +10.3. And I have no idea how it got there. I'm not a scratch player. HB really botched the handicap assignment system. Either that or I'm just one of the ones who fell through the cracks. I know my best scores have come in casual games and mostly in career mode. Pretty sure the handicap calculations don't take ease of course and conditions into consideration, at least that is my theory.
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Post by Sassy Lady on Oct 22, 2018 14:39:50 GMT -5
Actually, handicap takes all rounds on a handicap rated course into consideration. You get an adjusted score for each round and then the best 10 are averaged. This average is your handicap rounded to the nearest tenth of a stroke. Well, it happens this way after you've played 20 rounds. Starting off, you have to have 5 rounds and then the best adjusted score is your handicap. As you progress in number of rounds, then it starts adding rounds that are averaged until you reach 20 rounds played. It is then capped at the best 10 rounds.
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Post by greyosprey on Oct 22, 2018 14:53:53 GMT -5
I mean no disrespect, but that is not something that makes sense to me. I just don't understand this approach to competitiveness at all, but to each their own. Maybe some people enjoy playing and aren't worried about which tour they are on or having to birdie every other hole. Some people just play to have fun.
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Post by cephyn on Oct 22, 2018 15:27:24 GMT -5
I mean no disrespect, but that is not something that makes sense to me. I just don't understand this approach to competitiveness at all, but to each their own. Maybe some people enjoy playing and aren't worried about which tour they are on or having to birdie every other hole. Some people just play to have fun. To me, there's a difference between "not worrying, having fun" and "actively sandbagging". And they're mutually exclusive.
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Post by rob4590 on Oct 22, 2018 15:32:02 GMT -5
Maybe some people enjoy playing and aren't worried about which tour they are on or having to birdie every other hole. Some people just play to have fun. To me, there's a difference between "not worrying, having fun" and "actively sandbagging". And they're mutually exclusive.
QFT
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Post by Sassy Lady on Oct 22, 2018 16:03:06 GMT -5
Maybe some people enjoy playing and aren't worried about which tour they are on or having to birdie every other hole. Some people just play to have fun. To me, there's a difference between "not worrying, having fun" and "actively sandbagging". And they're mutually exclusive. You're right. They are mutually exclusive. But I just don't want to play on the pro tours given the current restrictions. If forced to play on the pro tours to play in the TGC Tours competitions, then I'll just say goodbye and not play here anymore. I'm sorry, but playing without a numerical wind speed display just isn't fun for me. And don't go on about how you can tell with the circle and how much it is filled. Don't care. I'm NOT playing without a numerical wind speed being displayed. Period. I did that for 20 years on a real course and if I want to do it now, I can go to a course, rent a cart and do it there. I'm not doing it here. If it requires me to "actively sandbag" to keep from playing in those conditions, then tough cookies. You'll get over it, I did.
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Post by thegolfaddict76 on Oct 22, 2018 16:29:35 GMT -5
Those 4 rounds depressed me lol. Roll on next Monday
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Post by cephyn on Oct 22, 2018 21:09:36 GMT -5
To me, there's a difference between "not worrying, having fun" and "actively sandbagging". And they're mutually exclusive. You're right. They are mutually exclusive. But I just don't want to play on the pro tours given the current restrictions. If forced to play on the pro tours to play in the TGC Tours competitions, then I'll just say goodbye and not play here anymore. I'm sorry, but playing without a numerical wind speed display just isn't fun for me. And don't go on about how you can tell with the circle and how much it is filled. Don't care. I'm NOT playing without a numerical wind speed being displayed. Period. I did that for 20 years on a real course and if I want to do it now, I can go to a course, rent a cart and do it there. I'm not doing it here. If it requires me to "actively sandbag" to keep from playing in those conditions, then tough cookies. You'll get over it, I did. I mean - I don't really care what you do. Doesn't sound like you're 'over it' at all though. You do you.
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Post by Sassy Lady on Oct 22, 2018 21:25:25 GMT -5
You're right. They are mutually exclusive. But I just don't want to play on the pro tours given the current restrictions. If forced to play on the pro tours to play in the TGC Tours competitions, then I'll just say goodbye and not play here anymore. I'm sorry, but playing without a numerical wind speed display just isn't fun for me. And don't go on about how you can tell with the circle and how much it is filled. Don't care. I'm NOT playing without a numerical wind speed being displayed. Period. I did that for 20 years on a real course and if I want to do it now, I can go to a course, rent a cart and do it there. I'm not doing it here. If it requires me to "actively sandbag" to keep from playing in those conditions, then tough cookies. You'll get over it, I did. I mean - I don't really care what you do. Doesn't sound like you're 'over it' at all though. You do you. No, what I'm not over is them eliminating the exact wind speed in the Pro Tours. But the correction to that is just not to play there. And yes. I'll do me. You do you and everyone's happy. Peace.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 23, 2018 4:42:01 GMT -5
I mean - I don't really care what you do. Doesn't sound like you're 'over it' at all though. You do you. No, what I'm not over is them eliminating the exact wind speed in the Pro Tours. But the correction to that is just not to play there. And yes. I'll do me. You do you and everyone's happy. Peace. Just out of curiosity: - Do you click for the wind, or do you estimate based on the number?
- Are you unable to estimate the wind, even with the pointers given in this thread (half full is 12mph), or don't you like being forced into not seeing the number?
- Are you good enough to make a Pro Tour? No offence, I'm just not sure which tour you used to compete on (can't check the Tour Card page as it's blocked out)
Your logic makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever, but, I'm from Mars. Personally, I'd want to test myself against the best in the game, at the same game, with the same conditions... Each to their own. Regardless, If you end up in CC with your Q scores, good luck getting out with Masters EDIT - You finished +3 in R1 of Q with Pro clubs. I could well be wrong, but I wouldn't get too worried about ending up on a Pro Tour any time soon. Forget about the wind meter, forget about sandbagging and just play the game with the clubset you desire Kelly
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Post by Sassy Lady on Oct 23, 2018 8:51:20 GMT -5
No, what I'm not over is them eliminating the exact wind speed in the Pro Tours. But the correction to that is just not to play there. And yes. I'll do me. You do you and everyone's happy. Peace. Just out of curiosity: - Do you click for the wind, or do you estimate based on the number?
- Are you unable to estimate the wind, even with the pointers given in this thread (half full is 12mph), or don't you like being forced into not seeing the number?
- Are you good enough to make a Pro Tour? No offence, I'm just not sure which tour you used to compete on (can't check the Tour Card page as it's blocked out)
Your logic makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever, but, I'm from Mars. Personally, I'd want to test myself against the best in the game, at the same game, with the same conditions... Each to their own. Regardless, If you end up in CC with your Q scores, good luck getting out with Masters EDIT - You finished +3 in R1 of Q with Pro clubs. I could well be wrong, but I wouldn't get too worried about ending up on a Pro Tour any time soon. Forget about the wind meter, forget about sandbagging and just play the game with the clubset you desire Kelly I click for wind. 1.5 clicks per mph in a straight crosswind. With a partial crosswind, say 8 mph diagonal (arrow pointing down and to the right) I'll get a crosswind speed by percentage. 75% in this case. That gives me a crosswind speed of 50%. and a headwind speed of 50%. So 4mph from the right. 6 clicks to the left. I also add 6 yards to my adjusted distance (4 for the headwind and 2 for the crosswind. I then take elevation and divide by 3. Add that number if below the hole or subtract that number if I'm above the hole and that gives me my adjusted distance. I could probably estimate the wind. I just don't want to estimate. Personal preference. Good enough for a pro tour, I would say no, but I've gotten lucky before and can again; flukes can and do happen and at the dangdest times. Under TGC 2 I played on the CC-C flight. And expect that or less in this new version. As for +3 in Q-school with Pro Clubs, I don't want to use Pro Clubs. I like master clubs. I can usually control them; not every single shot, but way more often than not. They also allow the ball to stick to the green better. And I scored a +1 on my 2nd round; with master clubs.
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