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Post by yozeppi on Oct 14, 2018 20:46:50 GMT -5
I cannot find pearl mountain anywhere! I've tried many different search terms. I found Saint Beads just fine???
Can anyone help? I play TGC2 on PS4
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Post by jacquesy123 on Oct 14, 2018 20:50:27 GMT -5
I cannot find pearl mountain anywhere! I've tried many different search terms. I found Saint Beads just fine??? Can anyone help? I play TGC2 on PS4 you will need TGC2019 bro
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Post by yozeppi on Oct 14, 2018 20:56:12 GMT -5
I cannot find pearl mountain anywhere! I've tried many different search terms. I found Saint Beads just fine??? Can anyone help? I play TGC2 on PS4 you will need TGC2019 bro Ahhhhh Sheeeeeeeeeet thanks mate
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Post by martbloke on Oct 15, 2018 6:58:15 GMT -5
I keep saying, video game golf is not a 1-to-1 comparison to real golf, so if you like true sim, that’s great, but we have an awesome TST division for that. I personally see no need to force those conditions on the pro tours just to artificially make it harder. It’s all relative, and it’s equal for everyone, so we all have the opportunity to shoot -15 if we work hard enough to achieve it. I guess my take is that we could brainstorm ideas of “what would make the tours better” all day long, but a) the rules are set, and b) it would be totally subjective and different for many people, so a pointless exercise really. Enjoy what we have here as it is, and enjoy the TST division. There’s something great here for all players!
Yep that's very true there is a TST division and I agree the game is not a true comparison to real golf. However what I am getting at is not that it should be true sim but the difficulty in the upper echelon should be the most difficult (without going full on crazy) to challenge these players. It's obvious that the majority of players in the top 3 divisions find the game relatively easy with aids on (I mean looking at the results for S4 I'd say near on 30% of the field for each tournament was scoring around -30 or better (leaders usually around -40 or better), probably 50% of the field scoring -20 or better). Considering these tours get the hardest courses too, I just think you are only able to score these low scores by either:
1) putting being too easy with the aid of the grid making it mainly a 1 putt the majority of the time and no danger of exceeding a 2 putt - removing the grid would make this more difficult to make birdies OR 2) the approach play is too easy getting close to most flags leaving a simple 1 putt for birdie - removing the grid will make it a touch difficult where short putts should still be 1 putts but this would increase the risk of it being missed if you lose focus (like real life) and also make the approach play a touch more difficult not having it laid out on a plate exactly how the green is sloping
Either way taking away the green grid will bring the scores down a touch and add difficulty for the crème de la crème in these divisions and also spice it up a bit competitively which adds to the enjoyment I feel - I'd sure as hell get bored of shooting -7 to -8 (let alone -15 as you state) every single round on the hardest courses with little challenge. The grid is an aid at the end of the day and I feel the best players should not need to have an aid to help them.
I don't even mean for this to be implemented right away either as the admins just need to see how the scoring goes in this year's iteration now what with the surface updates just made - I don't envisage any change if I'm honest. Just my opinion that's all and no biggy if it's never implemented.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 8:56:41 GMT -5
It should never be implemented. Good leadership should never impose legislation for the sake of outliers. What you’re proposing wouldn’t change anything, it would just shift the bell curve a little. The guys shooting -15s would just be the guys shooting -11s, and the guys shooting -7s would be the guys shooting -1s. If anything, your proposal would actually HURT the very people you might be trying to help. Guys like Bradley Garcia are good in TST, too. Nothing will change, it’s just an artificial shift of scores. Sorry, but I don’t buy it. And again, why force a play mode onto others that’s already available on the TST circuit? Anyone who wants that type of experience should play there, too! It’s really fun actually, I totally agree with you on that. But I appreciate that TGCT has options for both styles, rather than forcing the same style on everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 8:59:51 GMT -5
It should never be implemented. Good leadership should never impose legislation for the sake of outliers. What you’re proposing wouldn’t change anything, it would just shift the bell curve a little. The guys shooting -15s would just be the guys shooting -11s, and the guys shooting -7s would be the guys shooting -1s. If anything, your proposal would actually HURT the very people you might be trying to help. Guys like Bradley Garcia are good in TST, too. Nothing will change, it’s just an artificial shift of scores. Sorry, but I don’t buy it. And again, why force a play mode onto others that’s already available on the TST circuit? Anyone who wants that type of experience should play there, too! It’s really fun actually, I totally agree with you on that. But I appreciate that TGCT has options for both styles, rather than forcing the same style on everyone. That's an understatement. He won 36 TST events last year if I remember correctly. Of all the dominance on TGCT, none will probably ever match what Brad does on TST.
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Post by rob4590 on Oct 15, 2018 9:08:46 GMT -5
It should never be implemented. Good leadership should never impose legislation for the sake of outliers. What you’re proposing wouldn’t change anything, it would just shift the bell curve a little. The guys shooting -15s would just be the guys shooting -11s, and the guys shooting -7s would be the guys shooting -1s. If anything, your proposal would actually HURT the very people you might be trying to help. Guys like Bradley Garcia are good in TST, too. Nothing will change, it’s just an artificial shift of scores. Sorry, but I don’t buy it. And again, why force a play mode onto others that’s already available on the TST circuit? Anyone who wants that type of experience should play there, too! It’s really fun actually, I totally agree with you on that. But I appreciate that TGCT has options for both styles, rather than forcing the same style on everyone. That's an understatement. He won 36 TST events last year if I remember correctly. Of all the dominance on TGCT, none will probably ever match what Brad does on TST. Not to mention that nearly every result was done with a score in the -35 to -50 range........
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 10:33:18 GMT -5
I’m not expecting to shoot anywhere near the scores we were all shooting on the World and PGA tour. It will be interesting to see what the scores are like.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 11:41:12 GMT -5
with all the issues with tgc2 and tgc2k19 I suggest we go back to the original golf club
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Post by parnsi on Oct 15, 2018 17:15:03 GMT -5
I'm anticipating if I miss the Web I'll be lower CC... I'll have to use pro's to get back to CC-A, then switch to masters to get points to get back to Web. I anticipate a similar fate, although I may just grind it out on Masters. Unless the tempo for the mouse swing remains crap. Then I may have to go pro on Solitaire and Free Cell. Onward HB, please! No way you can grind with masters on the shorter CC courses and get back.... Pro clubs are way too accurate.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Oct 15, 2018 17:20:12 GMT -5
I anticipate a similar fate, although I may just grind it out on Masters. Unless the tempo for the mouse swing remains crap. Then I may have to go pro on Solitaire and Free Cell. Onward HB, please! No way you can grind with masters on the shorter CC courses and get back.... Pro clubs are way too accurate. Agreed. The margin of error with Pros is just too small compared to Masters. Club sets are like night and day
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Post by Sassy Lady on Oct 22, 2018 13:15:36 GMT -5
I'm anticipating if I miss the Web I'll be lower CC... I'll have to use pro's to get back to CC-A, then switch to masters to get points to get back to Web. I'm just the opposite. I don't want to play on the pro tours. But I love master clubs. So I played my obligatory 1 round of Q-school with pro clubs (what an absolute nightmare). Now I'll play the rest of it with masters and not have to worry about being placed above my level. Even with master clubs, I'm just not a good enough for the web.com tour. Oh, I might make the cut 1 time in 3 or 4, but that just means all the other times it just won't be fun and if you're not having fun, then why do it?
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Post by Art Vandelay on Oct 22, 2018 13:27:06 GMT -5
I'm anticipating if I miss the Web I'll be lower CC... I'll have to use pro's to get back to CC-A, then switch to masters to get points to get back to Web. I'm just the opposite. I don't want to play on the pro tours. But I love master clubs. So I played my obligatory 1 round of Q-school with pro clubs (what an absolute nightmare). Now I'll play the rest of it with masters and not have to worry about being placed above my level. Even with master clubs, I'm just not a good enough for the web.com tour. Oh, I might make the cut 1 time in 3 or 4, but that just means all the other times it just won't be fun and if you're not having fun, then why do it? What happens when you play well enough in CC-A for the promotion? Will you accept the promotion?
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Post by Sassy Lady on Oct 22, 2018 13:43:41 GMT -5
I'm just the opposite. I don't want to play on the pro tours. But I love master clubs. So I played my obligatory 1 round of Q-school with pro clubs (what an absolute nightmare). Now I'll play the rest of it with masters and not have to worry about being placed above my level. Even with master clubs, I'm just not a good enough for the web.com tour. Oh, I might make the cut 1 time in 3 or 4, but that just means all the other times it just won't be fun and if you're not having fun, then why do it? What happens when you play well enough in CC-A for the promotion? Will you accept the promotion? The chances of that happening are extremely slim, but if I make it to CC-A If I've scored extremely well, on the 1st 3 rounds, I will be using Pro clubs on the final round. And if that isn't good enough to keep me in the Challenge Circuit, I'll not play the final round taking a DNF/DQ and a demotion point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 14:01:24 GMT -5
I mean no disrespect, but that is not something that makes sense to me. I just don't understand this approach to competitiveness at all, but to each their own.
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