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Post by TAGROCKET on Dec 9, 2016 9:28:38 GMT -5
As the title says, struggling, to say the least in the WEB tour. Been in the tour since the beginning of the season and only made two CUTS of all the tournaments up to this point and it's kind of frustrating.
Seems my ball is rolling over more holes, hitting the corners more, spinning back more, just all around horrendous play on my behalf and I don't know why. Moved up through the CC tour rather quickly but at a standstill here in WEB.
Overall inconsistency with my play, and seems like what should be sure birdie putts are NOT going in, and I am not doing anything different? Anyway trudging on through but very disheartened!
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Post by dh-nufc on Dec 9, 2016 10:29:36 GMT -5
I really struggled on the web for long periods. It's a really competative tour. It's probbaly just has hard as the top tours to make cuts.
It's probably a mental issue. Once you're in the mindset thay you're going to struggle, you will struggle. Try to relax more when playing. Don't be too concerend with making the cut. More likely than not you'll start to play better.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Dec 9, 2016 10:33:15 GMT -5
you've got the yips . Just stop thinking when your playing about what you should be doing and the what ifs and play.
Play early and avoid looking at other scores and thinking of what you need.
That's what i done and I'm in Euro now
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Post by staypuft39 on Dec 9, 2016 10:49:28 GMT -5
Happens to everyone other than the best. Dean and Moe have it right. Just play a couple rounds of speed golf and soon you'll putt without thinking.
A couple suggestions otherwise, focus more on weight than line. Try and have everything die at the hole so the lips are more generous (he he). Also I found once I started giving it a line slightly outside of what I thought, I made more as well. Good luck!
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Post by mde8965 on Dec 9, 2016 12:15:30 GMT -5
Happens to everyone other than the best. Dean and Moe have it right. Just play a couple rounds of speed golf and soon you'll putt without thinking. A couple suggestions otherwise, focus more on weight than line. Try and have everything die at the hole so the lips are more generous (he he). Also I found once I started giving it a line slightly outside of what I thought, I made more as well. Good luck! And I thought I was the only one that that did this. Meaning whatever my best guess is on the line for the putt...add a little more compensation for the break "just cause". I too experienced a marked improvement in putts made when I started doing this very intricate and exacting technique...
And tagrocket, the others are right on about the confidence thing...confidence comes and goes. You will get it back or you need to take it back. I am in a down confidence period right now. After riding a wave of high confidence that lasted throughout the year end CC playoffs, through the first week of the season in WEB (was promoted to PGA after that first week in Web) and to PGA where I made my first 7 cuts and finished in the top 25 twice. And the last two weeks I am playing bad and feel nervous and my play shows it. My thumb twitches on swings and putts causing slices and hooks and diagonal line putts from time to time. First missed cut last week and probably a 50th or worse place finish this week.
Good luck, but stick it out...it will get better (that's what I a telling myself anyway)....
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Post by Clint Kelso on Dec 9, 2016 13:20:21 GMT -5
As the title says, struggling, to say the least in the WEB tour. Been in the tour since the beginning of the season and only made two CUTS of all the tournaments up to this point and it's kind of frustrating. Seems my ball is rolling over more holes, hitting the corners more, spinning back more, just all around horrendous play on my behalf and I don't know why. Moved up through the CC tour rather quickly but at a standstill here in WEB. Overall inconsistency with my play, and seems like what should be sure birdie putts are NOT going in, and I am not doing anything different? Anyway trudging on through but very disheartened! what console are you on bud? |
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Post by yaters on Dec 9, 2016 15:22:39 GMT -5
I really struggled on the web for long periods. It's a really competative tour. It's probbaly just has hard as the top tours to make cuts. It's probably a mental issue. Once you're in the mindset thay you're going to struggle, you will struggle. Try to relax more when playing. Don't be too concerend with making the cut. More likely than not you'll start to play better. I can second this. @dh-nufc really struggled for a long time. I mean a LOOOOOOOONG time. Every couple of months I would remember Dean and go check on his progress....still missing Web cuts. I'm not sure what happened, maybe medication or therapy, but he now competes at the highest levels. If he can do it, so you can you. |
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Post by TAGROCKET on Dec 9, 2016 15:46:17 GMT -5
Here is the caveat. I am on the PC with a MOUSE no less arrgggh. As I have said in earlier post that trying to convert to a controller has been killing my confidence even more, but I play best with a mouse and that's what I do. Hopefully one day (when HADES freezes over) I might be able to use a controller but for now my best chance is a mouse.
Thanks for the replies genuinely appreciate them!
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Post by DoubtfulObelisk on Dec 9, 2016 16:34:31 GMT -5
I really struggled on the web for long periods. It's a really competative tour. It's probbaly just has hard as the top tours to make cuts. It's probably a mental issue. Once you're in the mindset thay you're going to struggle, you will struggle. Try to relax more when playing. Don't be too concerend with making the cut. More likely than not you'll start to play better. I can second this. @dh-nufc really struggled for a long time. I mean a LOOOOOOOONG time. Every couple of months I would remember Dean and go check on his progress....still missing Web cuts. I'm not sure what happened, maybe medication or therapy, but he now competes at the highest levels. If he can do it, so you can you. I heard he switched over to XB1. It's so much easier than PC or PS4 that it's basically cheating. Some serious advice to TAGROCKET: maybe the step up in course difficulty from CC to Web is tripping you up? It may not be a lot of fun, but the only way you'll get better at the tougher courses is to play and practice on them. If you have time, try some of the PGA and Euro courses from this season (or even previous seasons). Heck, I'd recommend that for anyone in CC or Web who wants to advance to the tours above their current one. |
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Post by BillySastard976 on Dec 9, 2016 16:47:25 GMT -5
I agree, play the courses you hate and keep playing them until you get the hang of them. Windy links courses are a good start - any British Open course basically, as most are links. This, plus practicing on max firm courses, should make the courses in Web seem easier. Tye Dunes is a favourite course of mine, on which you have to think about your shot time and time again.
Avoid the point and shoot courses, with soft greens. Great for the ego but too simple.
I can't imagine playing with a mouse, not that I've ever tried it but if that's what you prefer then maybe it can work for you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 19:40:29 GMT -5
Tag, you've been given some good advice. But the truth is, everybody's struggles occur for different reasons and unless somebody can get into your head, nobody can really tell you why you're having problems.
In my case (I've missed half the cuts this season) nerves are the least of my problems. I've taken a very relaxing attitude about this game this season, especially knowing that no matter how well I do, when TGC 2 comes out, I'll have to do Q School all over again. So even if I do well and get my PGA card, it's meaningless beyond this season.
As a result, I don't really care much about the current season. So each tournament, for me, is like practice. That can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your mind set. For some people, they need that competitive juice to make them play well, and without it they're just going through the motions and ultimately do poorly, which is pretty much my problem this season. And the worst part about it is that I don't even care enough to try to improve. Ironically, I've had 2 weeks where I almost got exemptions, which I've never even come close to until this season. So some weeks, not caring, I do well, and others I do poorly. But that knot in my gut, the sweaty palms, the nerves, they don't even play a role anymore. That doesn't necessarily have to be a good thing. Like I said, some people need that.
And then there are those who tear it up in practice because there is no pressure and then when the tourney comes, they choke like crazy. They simply can't perform under pressure.
Because you had success in CC and made it up here, I assume, relatively quickly, I can't possibly say which camp you fall in. If you couldn't perform under pressure, you wouldn't have gotten here so quickly. On the other hand, if you thrive on pressure, you should be doing better than you are.
And maybe you're just running into the kind of "luck" that I've been running into this season. Follow my ghost balls. I am missing almost every birdie putt by inches. It's gotten to the point where it's almost comical. I had a hole in one head straight for the hole and roll right over it. I still can't believe that shot. I'm missing 44 foot putts by less than a foot. I have all the putting lines down based on slope that I learned from the best and yet, I'm missing everything by inches. Maybe I need to slow down. I do play quickly. But then I always did so nothing's really changed.
Point is, I can't even say what's wrong with my own game. I'm sure as heck not going to be able to crawl inside your head and figure out what's wrong with yours. Nobody can. And I know that's not something you want to hear but it's the truest thing you're going to hear. You have to figure this out on your own. Anybody suggesting that it's nerves or lack of practice or too much practice or whatever, is just guessing.
Sit down. Be honest with yourself and maybe you'll be able to see exactly what the problem is.
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Post by TAGROCKET on Dec 9, 2016 21:50:42 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. It's weird because I do play fast that's a given and I don't give myself a complete view of the greens most of the time because I am always in a hurry it seems. I just quickly figure the math and hit the ball, depending on how fast the greens are this could be good OR it could be bad?
Missing the putts is demoralizing me literally. Putts rolling over the MIDDLE of the hole and watching the ball stop 2 or 3 INCHES past the hole is just mind boggling to me. Putts right on line and hitting the corner of the hole and turning 90 degrees and stopping inches from the hole is also a struggle. The chips or flops hit the hole a lot of the time BUT won't go in, it's just crazy.
Some folks that I know have had 7 or 8 holes in one during a month period, heck I don't think I have 7 or 8 total in 4 months lol. My ball does the same as WAGS and rolls right over the hole or hits the hole and stops, BUT NOT IN THE HOLE, haha.
Really wondering if it has anything to do with playing this game on the PC or what but I have had my share of near misses on what should be holed shots.
I still like the game and will continue to plod along and HOPE something changes OR a light comes on and rights the ship!
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Post by dh-nufc on Dec 10, 2016 4:51:06 GMT -5
I can second this. @dh-nufc really struggled for a long time. I mean a LOOOOOOOONG time. Every couple of months I would remember Dean and go check on his progress....still missing Web cuts. I'm not sure what happened, maybe medication or therapy, but he now competes at the highest levels. If he can do it, so you can you. I heard he switched over to XB1. It's so much easier than PC or PS4 that it's basically cheating. Some serious advice to TAGROCKET: maybe the step up in course difficulty from CC to Web is tripping you up? It may not be a lot of fun, but the only way you'll get better at the tougher courses is to play and practice on them. If you have time, try some of the PGA and Euro courses from this season (or even previous seasons). Heck, I'd recommend that for anyone in CC or Web who wants to advance to the tours above their current one. Good one Griff I just want to point out that Yaters is an Xbox cheater but I'm sticking to my PS4. Put us both on the same platform and I would whoop his ass, as you Americans would say. You need to cross over the pond Yaters for a head to head. You're all talk and no action. As usual Wagtunes is being dramatic. It's not certain that we will be going back to Q school. Even if we do I'm convinced that we will be keeping our world ranking. In my eyes this season really does matter. Everyone gets the issues you have but you need to let them slide and not put them in your mind. You do need to study the greens mind. That's essential do well on web courses. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 6:49:05 GMT -5
TAGROCKETI could teach u how to flop an eagle from 40 yds or I could teach u how to pitch an eagle from 35-42 yds but alas I dont know how with an mouse oh I have tried unsuccessfully you might want to get some tips from the good mouse players I will try to summon them for you canthitstraightboomboomBrighttailand Im sure the 4th one will give u some tips he might not be in pga right now but he is very good andybarrell
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Post by ABU_Bear on Dec 10, 2016 6:56:24 GMT -5
I struggle because I suck at this game and can admit it  |
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