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Post by scampi00 on Nov 20, 2016 11:20:13 GMT -5
Theoretically every group should finish with winner having 9, 2nd place having 6, 3rd 3 and 4th 0 right? If A>B, and B>C then we should have A>C too. I can maybe see where a group finishes 9,6,1,1 or 9,4,4,0 but I feel like most groups will finish 9,6,3,0. So what are we doing in the case of a tie at the group level, or has that already been said and I'm missing it somewhere? "There will be a panel of judges that will alternate judging the groups. Each course will be judged against every other course in it's group round robin style. 3 points will be awarded for a win, and 1 point will be awarded for a tie (which will RARELY happen). At the end of the group stage judging, the top 2 courses from each stage will advance to a knockout round. In the case of a tie, the first tiebreaker will be the head-to-head matchup in the group stage judging. If that was a tie, then the courses will face a "sudden death" judging by the panel." Thanks Griff! |
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Post by callmecutout on Nov 20, 2016 12:34:18 GMT -5
Technically a group could finish 6, 6, 3, 3 too
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Post by scampi00 on Nov 20, 2016 13:05:18 GMT -5
Technically a group could finish 6, 6, 3, 3 too See, I'm trying to work that Math out. A beats B&C but loses to D. That's 6 for A. But technically this means B and C can't beat D, because they lost to A and therefore can't beat D since A is objectively better. So in this scenario means that D has now beaten A, B, C and has 9 points. B and C are now left to either have 1 a piece or 3 and 0 respectively. In soccer it always varies because even if Spain is objectively a better team than Iceland, Iceland can still beat them in one instance. In this case, once the judges decide that A>B and B>C, C cannot be better than A. This isn't really a problem, I'm just thinking most groups will finish 9,6,3,0. |
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Post by callmecutout on Nov 20, 2016 13:17:47 GMT -5
Technically a group could finish 6, 6, 3, 3 too See, I'm trying to work that Math out. A beats B&C but loses to D. That's 6 for A. But technically this means B and C can't beat D, because they lost to A and therefore can't beat D since A is objectively better. So in this scenario means that D has now beaten A, B, C and has 9 points. B and C are now left to either have 1 a piece or 3 and 0 respectively. In soccer it always varies because even if Spain is objectively a better team than Iceland, Iceland can still beat them in one instance. In this case, once the judges decide that A>B and B>C, C cannot be better than A. This isn't really a problem, I'm just thinking most groups will finish 9,6,3,0. I mean, it's not likely, but it COULD happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 14:55:24 GMT -5
Technically a group could finish 6, 6, 3, 3 too See, I'm trying to work that Math out. A beats B&C but loses to D. That's 6 for A. But technically this means B and C can't beat D, because they lost to A and therefore can't beat D since A is objectively better. So in this scenario means that D has now beaten A, B, C and has 9 points. B and C are now left to either have 1 a piece or 3 and 0 respectively. In soccer it always varies because even if Spain is objectively a better team than Iceland, Iceland can still beat them in one instance. In this case, once the judges decide that A>B and B>C, C cannot be better than A. This isn't really a problem, I'm just thinking most groups will finish 9,6,3,0. Because of the way I stagger who judges which matchups it's entirely possible that A can beat B, B can beat C, but C can beat A. It's not just 1 or 2 judges doing an entire group. The matchups are staggered among different judging "teams". Unless a course is just far and away better than anything in their group, it's not hard to fathom some ties or the scenario I mentioned above. The Summer Showdown would be a good example. In bot the desert and delta brackets we would have ties and courses that may have beaten the eventual winner of said brackets. |
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Post by scampi00 on Nov 20, 2016 18:31:33 GMT -5
See, I'm trying to work that Math out. A beats B&C but loses to D. That's 6 for A. But technically this means B and C can't beat D, because they lost to A and therefore can't beat D since A is objectively better. So in this scenario means that D has now beaten A, B, C and has 9 points. B and C are now left to either have 1 a piece or 3 and 0 respectively. In soccer it always varies because even if Spain is objectively a better team than Iceland, Iceland can still beat them in one instance. In this case, once the judges decide that A>B and B>C, C cannot be better than A. This isn't really a problem, I'm just thinking most groups will finish 9,6,3,0. Because of the way I stagger who judges which matchups it's entirely possible that A can beat B, B can beat C, but C can beat A. It's not just 1 or 2 judges doing an entire group. The matchups are staggered among different judging "teams". Unless a course is just far and away better than anything in their group, it's not hard to fathom some ties or the scenario I mentioned above. The Summer Showdown would be a good example. In bot the desert and delta brackets we would have ties and courses that may have beaten the eventual winner of said brackets. Gotcha. That makes sense. It's no biggie either way. No complaints from me, I was just thinking ahead. |
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Post by coruler2 on Nov 20, 2016 19:35:20 GMT -5
Looking forward to playing all of these. It's like getting Christmas presents from strangers
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Post by misternic on Nov 21, 2016 14:55:15 GMT -5
Without meaning any offense to Adam or Moe in my group, I think our group is the most "compact". The least difference in ability between best and worst designer. I don't design a lot, 4 main courses released and all have gotten good feedback so I aim to win. Will definitely be happy with 2nd though. Playing for 2nd, leads to finishing 3rd. Now I need to figure out how to polish up my courses like you do... your new design looks so freakin' purty. Will playing for 1st make you finish 2nd? probably. |
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Post by GrumpyOldMan on Nov 23, 2016 10:09:55 GMT -5
Looks like it's going to be fun, but a challenge just to get though the opening rounds. It will be interesting watching all this develop, that's for sure.
Thank You Griff for all your hard work setting this up and seeing it through.
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Post by rhino4life on Nov 23, 2016 10:19:27 GMT -5
The more I hear it being discussed on After Dark here and there the more excited I am for it.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Nov 28, 2016 3:12:58 GMT -5
Looking forward to playing all of these. It's like getting Christmas presents from strangers Last stranger that gave me a present took me on a car ride . Those sweets were delicious though . |
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Post by tastegw on Nov 28, 2016 3:14:49 GMT -5
How does your ass feel?!
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Nov 28, 2016 3:18:50 GMT -5
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Post by tastegw on Nov 28, 2016 3:58:09 GMT -5
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