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Post by TreeWood on Dec 2, 2016 9:03:20 GMT -5
From my personal experience, I highly doubt that (being true).
But the crucial thing about lofting more than 1 bar is that the wind will have more effect on the ball than it does without lofting (more than 1 bar). So if you would loft that 3 iron to 149yards - even if you've done the basic maths right - the ball will eg. not go as far if you are facing 10mph headwind. So if the wind is up, you really have to be very, very familiar with how the ball is going to react. If you are not, the lofting is going to kill you/your score.
So although I was recently called a "super-lofting"-b%& in another thread, I normally never do it to more than 2 bars. Just because it becomes very hard to really tell how the ball is going to react in the end.
Im not playing that long and I often loft sometimes more then two bars and most of that time my ball just fly another way. Now if I read your post im not gonna loft that high no more, maybe its better for my score. Im gonna give it a shot. The more you loft, or the more you draw/fade a shot, the smaller the red accuracy cone gets. If you're extremely lofted/drawing/fading and your swing accuracy is just slightly off, you're going to hook/slice like crazy. Use extreme (3+ bars) at your own risk. |
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Post by TreeWood on Dec 2, 2016 9:18:15 GMT -5
Has someone got a formula for down hill puts ie if it 3 inche down to you move it three foot shorter? Or if your like me if it's 3cm would you move it 1 meter shorter? Yes, you're right. So, for example if I've got an 18 foot putt, 4 inches downhill, I'll move the marker to 14 feet. I'll leave the marker at 14 feet, but might adjust my putt distance due to the green speed. Using the same example above (18-foot putt, 4 inches downhill) if it's a fast green (170+) I'll leave the marker at 14 feet, BUT I'll putt with the aim of hitting the ball with enough force to take it about 11-12 feet or so (if it was a flat green). In other words, I'm allowing for both the downhill putt, AND the fast green.
It takes a while to get the feel of it, but it comes. I still have much more difficulty when it comes to getting the ball to drop when I'm putting with the break going left or right. If I had a dollar for every time I left a putt within 2-3 inches of the hole, I could retire! |
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Post by edi_vedder on Dec 2, 2016 19:39:28 GMT -5
Im not playing that long and I often loft sometimes more then two bars and most of that time my ball just fly another way. Now if I read your post im not gonna loft that high no more, maybe its better for my score. Im gonna give it a shot. The more you loft, or the more you draw/fade a shot, the smaller the red accuracy cone gets. If you're extremely lofted/drawing/fading and your swing accuracy is just slightly off, you're going to hook/slice like crazy. Use extreme (3+ bars) at your own risk. This is just my personal opinion, but the only occasion I can think of where it might get crucial is when you have the Driver in your hands. If you use any of your irons, lofting has almost no or just a very small effect on the size of the (red) cone. |
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Post by TreeWood on Dec 5, 2016 0:05:38 GMT -5
The more you loft, or the more you draw/fade a shot, the smaller the red accuracy cone gets. If you're extremely lofted/drawing/fading and your swing accuracy is just slightly off, you're going to hook/slice like crazy. Use extreme (3+ bars) at your own risk. This is just my personal opinion, but the only occasion I can think of where it might get crucial is when you have the Driver in your hands. If you use any of your irons, lofting has almost no or just a very small effect on the size of the (red) cone. Yes, I should have been more specific about that. I was thinking about driving... |
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Post by nerazzurri2014 on Dec 8, 2016 10:10:47 GMT -5
Elementary question from a new player, regarding using the crib sheets -
It seems counter-intuitive to identify a landing spot and how far you ball will roll out (step 1), before selecting a club (step 4), a shot type (pitch, etc.), or loft? Can't get my 'novice' head around it.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Dec 27, 2016 9:59:42 GMT -5
Elementary question from a new player, regarding using the crib sheets - It seems counter-intuitive to identify a landing spot and how far you ball will roll out (step 1), before selecting a club (step 4), a shot type (pitch, etc.), or loft? Can't get my 'novice' head around it. Different clubs, shot types, and lofts will produce differing results for shots of the same yardage. Knowing how to play those different types of shots/lofts is really helpful when you're playing in different conditions or course setups. On a basic level, choosing a club before you figure out where to land the ball seems more nonsensical to me than picking a yardage based on conditions, then choosing the appropriate shot. Basic example (though there are many in this thread): 180 yards to a back pin location, uphill 12 feet, and I want to play for 10 yards of release once the ball lands. I am adding 4 feet to the 180 for elevation, then taking off 10 for the roll out. At that point, I know that half a bar of loft up from stock with a 5 iron will get me to 174 - that's my shot. There is more than one way to land a ball 174 yards, but those different clubs and lofts will not have the same characteristics as each other. Meaning, there will be different amounts of release, impacts by winds, etc. This is a big reason why determining the type of shot you want to hit is a must before getting to club/loft selection. Essentially, everything that goes into shot/club selection has to begin with where you want the ball to finish - i.e., the adjusted (elevation, wind) yardage to the hole in most cases. Once you know that, you have to decide how far the ball will release once it lands based on variables like course setup (firmness, speed), slope of green around potential landing spots (sloping left/right/toward/away from you), wind (downwind will release more, into less), pin location (tucked in the front vs. on the back edge) - all of these are characteristics of the shot you want to play. Once you have an idea of what is required to reach your end result (i.e., your landing spot), you can decide what club, how much loft, any fade/draw needed, etc. This also applies to shots within 75 yards as wind, elevation, spin/release will differ between stock and lofted pitches, flops, and full wedge shots. Just play the game, give it time, and you will get a feel for how you best play these shots, that's the best advice I can give. Hope this helps. |
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Post by hvs5b on Jan 7, 2017 6:38:07 GMT -5
Apologies for another stupied noob question...but how do I adjust the putting marker for length on kb/mouse input?
Slowly coming to grips with bits of the game but having serious difficulty judging putting strength. Anything that helps on this front is truly welcome.
Thanks.
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Post by xraylucy on Jan 7, 2017 10:42:37 GMT -5
Apologies for another stupied noob question...but how do I adjust the putting marker for length on kb/mouse input? Slowly coming to grips with bits of the game but having serious difficulty judging putting strength. Anything that helps on this front is truly welcome. Thanks. For uphill putts I add double the inches of elevation and add that to the distance in feet, For a 10 feet uphill putt with 4 inch elevation I increase the the marker to 18 (10+2*4) feet. For downhill putts I subtract the no of inches to the distance in feet. So a 10 feet downhill putt (4 inche down) I set the marker to 6 (10-4) feet. These 2 rules are a good starting point. Play with it adjust if needed. There is also a tips and tricks document for putting somewhere in this section of the forum. Cant find it however. I think it's written by Doyley . |
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Post by grinder12000 on Feb 8, 2017 15:05:59 GMT -5
I'm still reading the many pages so maybe this has been covered? I user Fade and Draw to counteract crosswinds. I learned this in Links and Tiger - is this a valid way to work the wind Or have I been lucky LOL ? I've only played 9 rounds but it's been effective so far.
also - it would be nice to have some idea of roll for every club on a default medium setting. Just to get a knowledge base. If there is not one already
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Post by Timbr0_T on Feb 8, 2017 15:21:08 GMT -5
I'm still reading the many pages so maybe this has been covered? I user Fade and Draw to counteract crosswinds. I learned this in Links and Tiger - is this a valid way to work the wind Or have I been lucky LOL ? I've only played 9 rounds but it's been effective so far. also - it would be nice to have some idea of roll for every club on a default medium setting. Just to get a knowledge base. If there is not one already Definitely a valid way to counteract winds. You'll find with more lofted clubs you will need to adjust further left/right for the wind. Roughly, one "box" left/right will offset a 10mph direct crosswind for wedges, 12mph for irons and 14mph for woods. |
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Post by Generic_Casual on Feb 8, 2017 15:35:16 GMT -5
I'm still reading the many pages so maybe this has been covered? I user Fade and Draw to counteract crosswinds. I learned this in Links and Tiger - is this a valid way to work the wind Or have I been lucky LOL ? I've only played 9 rounds but it's been effective so far. also - it would be nice to have some idea of roll for every club on a default medium setting. Just to get a knowledge base. If there is not one already Personally, I don't use it that way. I only use draw/fade for wind if the tee landing is small and maybe to try and catch slopes on max firm greens to tucked pins. I also use a 2-3 bar draw/fade sometimes to cut distance off woods into a Par 5. However, there are people who swear by the draw/fade way of play. You just have to use what works best for YOU. There is also a roll out chart somewhere in this section. I've not really used it, but I've seen it. I forget the name of the thread. Most of the things you need will just come with practice over rounds played. There are really useful tips here, though. Quite a few I've put into play. I find this game comes down to putting more than anything else. Period. Good shots/math skill won't matter if you keep missing 5-footers. I put in a ton of practice on putting and took some tips from a few threads and made my own system. I putt way better. Still miss a bit, but I feel more confident on any green speed. Except super slow. @!$#ing Devil that sh%$ is.  Good luck! |
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Post by Doyley on Feb 8, 2017 20:31:49 GMT -5
I'm still reading the many pages so maybe this has been covered? I user Fade and Draw to counteract crosswinds. I learned this in Links and Tiger - is this a valid way to work the wind Or have I been lucky LOL ? I've only played 9 rounds but it's been effective so far. also - it would be nice to have some idea of roll for every club on a default medium setting. Just to get a knowledge base. If there is not one already I've moved on to a hybrid system for anything over 8mph'ish. I found when I use used the aim (and not fade/draw) on larger winds it affected the curve too much and was more difficult to come in at the pin straight - so now I just aim halfish for wind and counteract the last half w/ fade or draw. |
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Feb 9, 2017 9:06:24 GMT -5
I'm still reading the many pages so maybe this has been covered? I user Fade and Draw to counteract crosswinds. I learned this in Links and Tiger - is this a valid way to work the wind Or have I been lucky LOL ? I've only played 9 rounds but it's been effective so far. also - it would be nice to have some idea of roll for every club on a default medium setting. Just to get a knowledge base. If there is not one already This is how I originally started counteracting winds when I picked the game up, and still use it for the large part now, but I would encourage you to get a feel for how much you would have to aim left/right to compensate for winds, too. Also, go into designer, just auto gen a course or build 1 flat hole, then play it. When you're playing within GNCD you can see how much your draw/fade moves (actually shows your arc line when setting your shot up), and how 1box draw/fade differs as you go up on the loft meter. |
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Post by rustydynamite on Mar 18, 2017 18:41:40 GMT -5
Does anyone have a mobile link to the original? I get an error when going thro that vigilink redirect.
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Post by akutasame80 on Apr 3, 2017 4:05:09 GMT -5
Hi guys i'm new and i try to understand the game.
One question when i move the putting marker change the power of my putt? or the power of my putt was only decided by the "swing"?
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