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Post by inflames47 on Oct 27, 2016 9:54:29 GMT -5
@inflames are those distances with the lw fully lofted,and is that on flop or pitch? Those are on LW SW and PW Flop no changes made in loft just using the method of knee, waist, shoulder to obtain my distances. So if I need to go 16 yards and the green is going to wreak havoc if I pitch because of backspin I will use the Lob Wedge and pull my swing to my shoulder and hit should go between 14-17 yards , or if I do not want to chip because the green is in a down slop behind the pin I will use this method as well for short flops 5 to 13yds . You will get used to the distance/method quick enough. SW and PW I use in situations where I am in sand, rough or heavy rough.(Flop).
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Post by inflames47 on Oct 27, 2016 10:13:19 GMT -5
I use mouse & keyboard. The gauging of backswing on putts is strange at first, but like everything on this game, the more you practice the margin for error reduces. I will say this though, if you use a wireless mouse make sure you dont play when the batteries are running low. A few times now I have gone to putt, and without holding the left button down I have moved the mouse and my guy hits the ball. When this has happened Ive raged, moved the mouse again and the next putt is taken again. Very, very frustrating. I hate wireless mice! Always at a crucial moment you get the squirt or the lag.. Wired all the way on both mouse and controller.
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Post by KenTremendous on Oct 27, 2016 11:56:53 GMT -5
PS4 DualShock here - works lovely.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Oct 27, 2016 15:50:43 GMT -5
I'd actually like to see mouse play outlawed for the simple fact that you can dial your parameters in and almost make it finite. You can't do that with any of the stock controllers...but you can do it with ANY mouse. You can also stop the back swing to get the perfect % to make the flop almost an unbeatable tool. Can't do that with controller..therefore I feel mouse players have an unfair advantage.
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Post by TAGROCKET on Oct 27, 2016 16:24:33 GMT -5
Yeah it's the old true swing vs 3-click in TW. The thing is here though is that MOST player are using controllers so??
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Post by staypuft39 on Oct 27, 2016 16:34:56 GMT -5
I'd actually like to see mouse play outlawed for the simple fact that you can dial your parameters in and almost make it finite. You can't do that with any of the stock controllers...but you can do it with ANY mouse. You can also stop the back swing to get the perfect % to make the flop almost an unbeatable tool. Can't do that with controller..therefore I feel mouse players have an unfair advantage. Any mouse users in the top 50/100 WGR? Genuine question.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Oct 27, 2016 17:04:00 GMT -5
I'd actually like to see mouse play outlawed for the simple fact that you can dial your parameters in and almost make it finite. You can't do that with any of the stock controllers...but you can do it with ANY mouse. You can also stop the back swing to get the perfect % to make the flop almost an unbeatable tool. Can't do that with controller..therefore I feel mouse players have an unfair advantage. Any mouse users in the top 50/100 WGR? Genuine question. That I don't know. Just know(well from what I've read) it's almost limitless how well you can dial in the flop with a mouse. Also the the ability to set parameters makes the all round game easier to manipulate with a mouse in my opinion.
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Post by coruler2 on Oct 27, 2016 23:17:23 GMT -5
I use a wired XBOX360 controller
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Post by Doyley on Oct 27, 2016 23:59:04 GMT -5
I'd actually like to see mouse play outlawed for the simple fact that you can dial your parameters in and almost make it finite. You can't do that with any of the stock controllers...but you can do it with ANY mouse. You can also stop the back swing to get the perfect % to make the flop almost an unbeatable tool. Can't do that with controller..therefore I feel mouse players have an unfair advantage. Any mouse users in the top 50/100 WGR? Genuine question. Few off the top of my head - Brian May #6, AMG #10, Matt Lazell #20 - I'm sure there's more I'm not aware of either.
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Post by inflames47 on Oct 28, 2016 1:46:54 GMT -5
I'd actually like to see mouse play outlawed for the simple fact that you can dial your parameters in and almost make it finite. You can't do that with any of the stock controllers...but you can do it with ANY mouse. You can also stop the back swing to get the perfect % to make the flop almost an unbeatable tool. Can't do that with controller..therefore I feel mouse players have an unfair advantage. Just would like to respond to this, and also say this only how I play not based on what others might or might not do. I do not 'dial in parameters' my settings are at default. As far as stopping the back swing to get the perfect percentage on the flop, well all my flop shots might get close and rarely in is no different than using the loft meter on any club including the LWF. I play side by side with my husband for fun and sometimes when competing in a tourney and unlike me he prefers to use his controller. When it comes to flop shots he is able to do exactly what I do just by knowing the speed he wants to hit his shot with. I have flopped at 15 yrds, he can also do the same. No unfair advantage here, just a matter of knowing what your equipment can do for you. With that being said, he 99 percent of the time kicks my ass as far as score goes, and that is why he currently is in B league and I am in C. And trust me I play a hell of a lot more than him since I am retired and he still has to go to the 'coal mine' every day. We have been playing golf since PGA 2K and that is how we met and finally is how this New England gal landed in Sweden. I also ran a golfing web site, hosted tournaments etc for at least 5 years or more and can tell you it was a lot of work so what these gentlemen do here is amazing and I commend them for doing such a bang up job. Unfair advantages opens a can of worms here because there is charts out there for everyone to use at their own discretion. There are far more controller users in top 20's out there in all league's than there are mouse users. With all that being said I just play my game because I love it. If i place well I am happy, if I lose well I am still happy I just try harder next time and practice more... and the more I practice sometimes the worse I get lol! Point being play how you want, just enjoy it and be happy don't worry
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Post by dysania on Oct 28, 2016 6:20:57 GMT -5
I use an Xbox 360 wired controller. It works great except when I hit a brutal slice, that's the controller's fault and not me... I swear!!
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Post by Brighttail on Nov 8, 2016 14:20:08 GMT -5
I'd actually like to see mouse play outlawed for the simple fact that you can dial your parameters in and almost make it finite. You can't do that with any of the stock controllers...but you can do it with ANY mouse. You can also stop the back swing to get the perfect % to make the flop almost an unbeatable tool. Can't do that with controller..therefore I feel mouse players have an unfair advantage. Any mouse users in the top 50/100 WGR? Genuine question. I have been a mouse user from the beginning. I have tried controllers but due to multiple operations on my right thumb, it really hurts me after a while. For me the mouse swing is more difficult than a controller. You have to worry about your wrist, forearm and hand while a controller it is mainly your thumb. The other problem with many mouse users is you are playing at a DPI (with newer mouses) that is far too high than what the game was designed for. Playing with your DPI set at 3000 makes making a straight shot nearly impossible for me. HB themselves have stated many times that they setup the mouse play to be optimal around 800 DPI and that is exactly what I have my mouse set at. Playing at any higher and you have to be just too perfect to get a straightish swing. That being said, I find that putting with a controller to be much easier and better. When HB changed the mouse swing last December, they changed the tempo of all the swings, including putting. While you can go into settings and change the mouse sensitivity to counteract this and be able to make it where you are swinging at 100% power, I have found that this then made putting much more difficult. The higher the mouse sensitivity, the faster the club comes back, so if you are trying a 5 foot putt, a high sensitivity means that club is coming back super quick. The result usually ends up powering through the hole. With a mouse it is all about balance then. Finding the right sensitivity / DPI combination that allows you to hit the ball straight, keep it at 100% power while allowing you to putt with some sort of tempo. Each person, each mouse and each setup will be different. In all honesty I struggled with it for almost a year and I am FINALLY starting to get my hold back on putting. As for the question about mouse users being in the to 100/50? I have been as high as 17 and am 46ish now. I'm finally playing better golf now but it has been a long ride. If I could, I probably would be playing with a controller, because i feel that is how the game was originally intended to be played and that there are more people playing with a controller, so HB has more input from users and is more likely to fix those problems first. Mouse users are in the minority to be sure. FYI I have bought and used probably 8 different mice for this game. The best ones for me are the heavier ones. They glide better for me and since they are heavier I don't have as many shanks as I did with other mice. I'm currently using the Asus Spatha but my second pick was the Corsair M95. (no longer in production) Finally using a mouse does have a few benefits. Yes HB knows all about these issues. I sent them in to Anthony the moment I saw them, but they have never changed or fixed them. Using the mouse you can slowly drawback any shot, little by little and as long as you hold the mouse button, you can hold your swing at any point indefinitely. This means I can dial in a 5w or 3w shot anywhere from 90-99%. I have a video up where I hit a 5w 90% swing 3 times in a row using this method. I also know some people who use this method for putting in order to determine how hard they want to hit the putt. They will use the overhead camera, pull the mouse back, little by little until the putter head goes to the exact point they need to hit it the length that they want. If they pull it back to far, simply release the button and try again. I don't use it this way for putting because if I can't do a tempo putt I don't want to play the game. That being said, I will use it for a LW to hit the ball 16 yards with no backspin or with a 5 wood I want to go only 218 yards. Good luck!
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Post by TAGROCKET on Nov 11, 2016 20:07:28 GMT -5
how do you think the corsair m65 would work? Is the m95 that you had/have optical or laser? Thanks. I also find the fact that pulling the mouse back just that tad more than you need that ball is GOING to roll over the hole almost EVERY time. With the controller (when I have the patience to use it lol) it doesn't roll over as much BUT I am much less accurate.
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Post by Brighttail on Nov 11, 2016 20:45:25 GMT -5
The M65 is the same as the m95. The m95 just had more buttons for macros.
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Post by canthitstraight on Nov 14, 2016 0:01:42 GMT -5
Mouse user here. It's not as perfect as you would expect.
As for the claim that you can always dial in your flop percentage: it has advantages and disadvantages just like flopping on the controller. I've seen plenty of top rate controller users consistently slowly move back their controller to get around the 65-75% partial flop sweet spot.
My experience and partial flops: pull back to aim for the specific angle in which I can get 70% partial flop, then push forward and one of a number of things happen. 1) flop at 50-55% despite having the correct backswing for 70% 2) line goes outside the cone and flop goes haywire (typically happens when I'm quadruple-lofted) or 3) I actually succeed. You'd be surprised how often #1 happens for me. It's gotten to the point that I'll rely on the 9 iron chip for up to 15 yards sometimes because I have such little confidence of actually being able to make #3 happen. It's almost like the game has a way to compensate for "mouse superiority" by having a noticeable chance at your swing not coming out the way you wish.
I'll admit that keeping my driver and wood tee shots near the middle of the cone is fairly routine. But soon as I'm in a situation in which I'm lofting, even just 1 bar, I will have a 10 or 20% chance of slicing it out of the cone, usually in the most inopportune of times like being over a vast body of water.
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