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Post by tastegw on Nov 3, 2016 0:51:23 GMT -5
How can you say that? Overrated.
Selling top secrets or pay for play should just be brushed off and overlooked?
That is just insanity
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Post by nevadaballin on Nov 3, 2016 2:25:13 GMT -5
How can you say that? Overrated. Selling top secrets or pay for play should just be brushed off and overlooked? That is just insanity Exactly what top secrets were sold? Pay for play, as old as the Constitution itself and something Trump engaged in from the other side of the coin (buyer of government favors - he didn't give them money just because he liked them). I believe he even gave $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation through his own nifty little foundation. During one of the GOP debates he said, "“I give to everybody. When they call, I give. When I need something from them, two years later, three years later, I call them, and they are there for me". An outsider he is not. He's just as crooked and rigged as the people/system he calls crooked and rigged. The article you linked has no smoking gun in it. Possible this, maybe that, potentially another thing. I'd rather see some real evidence before nailing someone to the wall. If she's guilty, nail her. If not, then they need to move along and stop wasting our time. There are no saints and angels in politics. That goes for both parties. All of them have their own BS. Having a hacked email server that discloses personal information is common these days. Eventually it's going to happen to the Republican side and it won't be pretty for them either. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 2:58:56 GMT -5
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Post by tastegw on Nov 3, 2016 3:14:24 GMT -5
How can you say that? Overrated. Selling top secrets or pay for play should just be brushed off and overlooked? That is just insanity Exactly what top secrets were sold? Pay for play, as old as the Constitution itself and something Trump engaged in from the other side of the coin (buyer of government favors - he didn't give them money just because he liked them). I believe he even gave $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation through his own nifty little foundation. During one of the GOP debates he said, "“I give to everybody. When they call, I give. When I need something from them, two years later, three years later, I call them, and they are there for me". An outsider he is not. He's just as crooked and rigged as the people/system he calls crooked and rigged. The article you linked has no smoking gun in it. Possible this, maybe that, potentially another thing. I'd rather see some real evidence before nailing someone to the wall. If she's guilty, nail her. If not, then they need to move along and stop wasting our time. There are no saints and angels in politics. That goes for both parties. All of them have their own BS. Having a hacked email server that discloses personal information is common these days. Eventually it's going to happen to the Republican side and it won't be pretty for them either. Why you lecturing me about trump? im not voting for him, suggesting others to vote for him, or supporting his cause. im speaking about Hilary, and those emails, it's not a witch hunt, it's an investigation by her own party nominated FBI director, it's real, she broke many real laws, things you or I would go to jail for a long f'ing time |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 3:22:26 GMT -5
To be honest, I am thrilled that on a poll among pretty much all white men (yes, I apologize in advance to those who are not and are reading this before the election) that it is pretty close among those with an affiliation. After all, I did vote for a white man named Bernie in the primaries.  |
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Post by nevadaballin on Nov 3, 2016 3:46:45 GMT -5
Exactly what top secrets were sold? Pay for play, as old as the Constitution itself and something Trump engaged in from the other side of the coin (buyer of government favors - he didn't give them money just because he liked them). I believe he even gave $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation through his own nifty little foundation. During one of the GOP debates he said, "“I give to everybody. When they call, I give. When I need something from them, two years later, three years later, I call them, and they are there for me". An outsider he is not. He's just as crooked and rigged as the people/system he calls crooked and rigged. The article you linked has no smoking gun in it. Possible this, maybe that, potentially another thing. I'd rather see some real evidence before nailing someone to the wall. If she's guilty, nail her. If not, then they need to move along and stop wasting our time. There are no saints and angels in politics. That goes for both parties. All of them have their own BS. Having a hacked email server that discloses personal information is common these days. Eventually it's going to happen to the Republican side and it won't be pretty for them either. Why you lecturing me about trump? im not voting for him, suggesting others to vote for him, or supporting his cause. im speaking about Hilary, and those emails, it's not a witch hunt, it's an investigation by her own party nominated FBI director, it's real, she broke many real laws, things you or I would go to jail for a long f'ing time I've already gone to jail for sht she wouldn't go to jail for ... lol. Hell, Reagan sold weapons to Iran, he didn't go to jail either  Here's why I don't care about the emails..... if a Republican FBI Director (and he is by and large a Republican, regardless of who appointed him) cannot find enough evidence to recommend prosecution to the Justice Dept, then there must not have been anything to prosecute with. They investigated. Dug thru that sht for over a year. Nothing. Curious to see what is on Weiner's computer though. But I refuse to have a kneejerk reaction to it. Wait for the facts and see what's there. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 3:56:30 GMT -5
Does anyone want to be associated with voters like this, let alone to vote in step with them?  |
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Post by joegolferg on Nov 3, 2016 6:22:12 GMT -5
I'm calling this now: Clinton wins the election, but is either impeached in the first 60 days for corruption based on the email scandles, or is indicted before she takes office and Kain steps in to be the fill in president Obama will not pardon her, as he has his own legacy to protect. He made that clear on Monday when he tossed Hilary under the bus by backing the FBI Director for re-opening the investigation. It's funny how Hilary called for full transparency last Friday, when if she had just been honest and forth coming when this all started, instead, whipping servers clean before handing them in, transparency eh Hilary? Hilary wanted that private server to do exactly what snoden and others are in jail for, sharing top secrets, but for profit. Collecting both personal and foundation donations for her and her family while in office under Obama. Emails coming in and going out to foreign interests who donated based off future promises. Why else would you whipe clean your drives if there was nothing to hide. It's not about just having the classified stuff there, it was about hiding where it got sent, and the rest of the digital paper trail that would incriminate her, her husband Bill, the foundation, and the Inc. She will fall, and by the most unlikely source, weiner's inability to stop sharing weiner photos with underage girls. Somehow I doubt Putin would grant her asylum if she made a run for it. |
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Post by Brighttail on Nov 3, 2016 7:18:54 GMT -5
100% sure very other "official" government server has been hacked 50 times, including the Pentagon. The email thing is over rated. There are two differences. First it is 10000x harder to hack a government server. She had her government emails with the United States top secrets on a server that had less security on it than my mother's home computer (I set up that security). She should be found guilty of improperly storing government data securely for that. Second and MUCH more importantly, when a government server is hacked, they have programs to record exactly what was stolen and downloaded. Therefore they have the ability to make changes, recall assets and take other reactive actions in response to what was stolen. On Hillary's server since she deleted so many emails, many that had been found with classified emails, that the FBI probably will never know what was exactly stolen or the potential damage it could do. What she did was 100% preventable. She should have had a state.gov address. If she was hacked then she would have been in the clear and the FBI would have known what was taken. Now they don't and we don't have any idea what they took or what to do to react/protect anyone and it opens her up to blackmail. THAT is why it is not being over rated. As for what is on Weiners's computer? It is a full backup of Huma's phone. A copy that contains all the emails she had for the Clinton Foundation and her time at State with Hillary. The only difference, is it is a FULL copy with no one having gone through to edit or delete. So very likely there are the 33,000 emails that Hillary deleted AND new emails about the Clinton Foundation that backs up many of the wikileaks information of corruption and pay to play. Add all that along with the fact that while Comey didn't press charges due to 'intent', by his own definition, the reason he did NOT press charges against her for 'gross negligence' is that he couldn't prove 'harm' to the US. If he now has evidence of 5 hacks, he has that evidence. She may not have intended the hacks but her gross negligence in having the server the way it was, PLUS the harm that is provable, is more than enough. This hasn't even touched all the Clinton Foundation stuff that the FBI has been investigating for over a year, was told to back off by the DOJ and started it up again recently. What is on this laptop is from a person who was high up in the Foundation and that is what I think she will ultimately be indicted on. |
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Nov 3, 2016 8:06:31 GMT -5
Hilary is stupid and this email ignorance is just 1 example. Hilary will lose and it will be a repeat of the 1980 election.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Nov 3, 2016 8:30:25 GMT -5
"Hilary is a bit dodgy so let's elect a racist sex pest instead"
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Nov 3, 2016 8:36:40 GMT -5
"Hilary is a bit dodgy so let's elect a racist sex pest instead"
Loving the logic A bit dodgy? 
Apparently you haven't heard Hilary's racist comments
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Nov 3, 2016 8:51:58 GMT -5
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Post by mrooola on Nov 3, 2016 9:26:43 GMT -5
18 minutes of someone claiming someone did something. I say any speech by trump is worse, but I guess that's just me. |
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Post by timeracer on Nov 3, 2016 12:19:53 GMT -5
Wow. The leaks coming out of the NYPD, who first looked at Weiner's computer in their sexting investigation, are simply stomach turning.
If this stuff is real, it's over for Hillary. Even amongst her most ardent supporters.
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