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Post by Moe Slorkman on Oct 7, 2016 10:11:33 GMT -5
i could possibly come out of retirement who knows You should... I fancy your next course to be a serious contender for any contest What do you know ? you weren't even on the designer of the year short list  . I think ill be finishing my latest WIP and that will be it till TGCT2 but maybe ill enter or Judge if asked I don't know really. Meh sign me up and ill decide then  |
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Post by pyates on Oct 8, 2016 13:13:26 GMT -5
You should... I fancy your next course to be a serious contender for any contest What do you know ? you weren't even on the designer of the year short list . I think ill be finishing my latest WIP and that will be it till TGCT2 but maybe ill enter or Judge if asked I don't know really. Meh sign me up and ill decide then Yeah I know, I saw the poll went up and was just typing my "vote for me and I'll make a new course" and then I realised I'm not big time enough  . I have a University Links 2016 to finish revamping and then I think I have 1 more TGC1 course in me. So many of my ideas have multi level water or flowing rivers etc... Now I know they are coming I find it a little frustrating being so limited. If I didn't have non TGC projects on the go I'd probably still be in the designer now though |
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Post by pyates on Oct 8, 2016 13:20:20 GMT -5
Just a thought on a contest idea.
I'd like to do one where we have a single plot that everyone starts from... However that is only possible from PC... OR IS IT!!!
I'm thinking each designer gets the same instructions to start a plot:
- set initial theme and settings
- Flatten entirely using blue brush and red brush
- set some defined markers (corner to corner) etc etc
- select some specific brushes at specific orientations height and positions at max size
- lastly take a picture and post it
Ideally all starting plots should be roughly identical. From there designers can change whatever they want. Theme sculpting all fair game. However best use of original plot will come into the marking... Probably needs a little testing to see if it works, but could be interesting.
Thoughts?
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Oct 8, 2016 16:22:36 GMT -5
Just a thought on a contest idea. I'd like to do one where we have a single plot that everyone starts from... However that is only possible from PC... OR IS IT!!! I'm thinking each designer gets the same instructions to start a plot: - set initial theme and settings - Flatten entirely using blue brush and red brush - set some defined markers (corner to corner) etc etc - select some specific brushes at specific orientations height and positions at max size - lastly take a picture and post it Ideally all starting plots should be roughly identical. From there designers can change whatever they want. Theme sculpting all fair game. However best use of original plot will come into the marking... Probably needs a little testing to see if it works, but could be interesting. Thoughts? Only works on PC unfortunately but is a great idea taste had the same idea with the apprentice comp he invented but it never got off the ground  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 16:38:31 GMT -5
I'm Not interested. . .
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Post by pyates on Oct 8, 2016 16:38:46 GMT -5
Just a thought on a contest idea. I'd like to do one where we have a single plot that everyone starts from... However that is only possible from PC... OR IS IT!!! I'm thinking each designer gets the same instructions to start a plot: - set initial theme and settings - Flatten entirely using blue brush and red brush - set some defined markers (corner to corner) etc etc - select some specific brushes at specific orientations height and positions at max size - lastly take a picture and post it Ideally all starting plots should be roughly identical. From there designers can change whatever they want. Theme sculpting all fair game. However best use of original plot will come into the marking... Probably needs a little testing to see if it works, but could be interesting. Thoughts? Only works on Psee younfortunately but is a great idea taste had the same idea with the apprentice comp he invented but it never got off the ground Ah but that is why there are manual plot creation instructions. Would require careful following but in theory anyone could follow the steps and create the same basic plot on any platform. The steps would create the major land formations and coastline. I imagine it wouldn't take too much to get something to work from as a base. Subtle sculpting would be down to the designer. Maybe I'll need to make a proof of concept to prove it to you  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 22:10:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 22:13:54 GMT -5
pyatesIt's a neat idea, but I've learned my lesson on restricting themes and etc. I would certainly be open to doing something like this as a designer. To take it a step further, I'd certainly be open to having a course we pass around to "x" amount of designers with each designing a hole and passing it on. That could be an awesome collaboration to finish off TGC1.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 0:48:16 GMT -5
We? As in you and your pet hamster? LOL |
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Post by pyates on Oct 9, 2016 5:10:04 GMT -5
Guys... Lefts keep personal battles outside of this thread... If nothing helpful to contribute then we'd all appreciate not seeing a post at all if you ask me... Which I know you didn't  |
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Post by pyates on Oct 9, 2016 5:10:11 GMT -5
pyatesIt's a neat idea, but I've learned my lesson on restricting themes and etc. I would certainly be open to doing something like this as a designer. To take it a step further, I'd certainly be open to having a course we pass around to "x" amount of designers with each designing a hole and passing it on. That could be an awesome collaboration to finish off TGC1. Specific theme was just a starting point not a restriction. I'm totally up for a pass the file around course. I'm now on PC so can join in on that! Was gutted to miss the last ones... In fact I believe there is one in progress from ages ago? I think that there needs to be a waiting list of designers so you take it if available, pass up and join the back of the queue if not. Would be fun if 2 designers got given the file and then a quick 1 day flash vote after X days decides which one progresses. If 1 hole at a time it could be just 3/4 days a hole? Could run a couple in parallel if enough people interested. Doesn't need to be 18 different designers, just as many as possible |
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Post by Errol1967 on Oct 9, 2016 7:15:35 GMT -5
Just start a contest for rookies who never made a course.
It still aint fair if there comes a contest for everyone...some new designers have no chance whatsoever against the veterans...totaly unfair.
Some can compete, but not all can...I like to see two kinds of contest, a Rookie and a Veteran.
Veterans know what they are doing, some new designers can still use some help.
Also good idea is some kind of small Rookie contest with three holes or something or 6, maybe 9 for a start.
There should be defo some kind of Course Critiques....something what Canuck was doing...I realy like that show and I miss It.
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Post by scampi00 on Oct 9, 2016 9:36:55 GMT -5
The progressive 3 hole tournament that HB did a few years back was alot of fun.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 11:14:47 GMT -5
Just start a contest for rookies who never made a course. It still aint fair if there comes a contest for everyone...some new designers have no chance whatsoever against the veterans...totaly unfair. Some can compete, but not all can...I like to see two kinds of contest, a Rookie and a Veteran. Veterans know what they are doing, some new designers can still use some help. Also good idea is some kind of small Rookie contest with three holes or something or 6, maybe 9 for a start. There should be defo some kind of Course Critiques....something what Canuck was doing...I realy like that show and I miss It. I will be placing a post offering critiques in the next week. I'll do my best to stream them as often as I can. As to the idea of a rookie design contest, I'll gladly assist in one, but I have no interest in hosting one. You or anybody else is more than welcome and capable of starting one...just vet out your judges and have a schedule you can stick to. I personally think a contest like that should be in stages so that the "rookie" designers can actually learn and make changes as they go along. Otherwise you may or may not end up with a collection of courses that are what they are. I am in no way trying to sound condescending or "elitist" about it, but I'm not sure a contest is where newer designers are actually going to get better. I can do a more effective job of helping said designers by answering questions while they are working on their course or giving feedback in playthroughs than I can in judging said course in a contest. As I said before, I would be happy to help support a rookie contest, but hosting one is probably out of my wheelhouse at the moment. **EDIT: A "mentor contest" could be a fun idea if you can find enough people willing to help. Pair a rookie with a vet, the vet being the mentor. The mentor can do no design on the course, cannot provide the layout or routing, cannot provide the "vision" or concept behind the course, but can give feedback on basics like bunkering, greens, fairway shapes and edging, etc. Might not be the way I would personally approach a contest like that, but it could be a fun way to pull one off. |
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Post by DoubtfulObelisk on Oct 9, 2016 11:39:43 GMT -5
This wouldn't be a contest per se, but here's an idea I had a few months back: have 18 of the best PC designers build a "dream 18" of holes from TGC 1. Obviously, this would require a lot of coordination so you don't end up with a par-66 course or some other oddity, but the basic premise is to have each designer pick his or her favorite hole from TGC 1 and try to recreate it. Pass around the file, and you'll eventually have 18 of the best holes in TGC on one plot. Obviously, theme would be an issue on some holes, so you'd probably have to pick something that is versatile and that features coastline; highlands, maybe? I'd prefer it to be limited to fictional holes, but maybe allow holes from lesser-known RCRs. For instance, 12 at Magnolia and 18 at Pebble would be off-limits, but a hole like 10 at Hobble Creek would be fine, since 99% of people here hadn't heard of that course before playing TGC.
Obviously, I'm not on PC, so I couldn't be involved with the project, but maybe this post will get some people's creative juices flowing as they reminisce on their favorite courses and holes from this game.
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