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Post by Doyley on Jan 1, 2016 15:42:59 GMT -5
Everyone that already has a card does not need to play this new qschool. It's only for new members. Just needed you guys to help provide some scores before we went live. What is the likelyhood of making qschool a permanent tour rather than month by month? That way every new player gets the same wind conditions and gives a better spread of how players have faired? Not possible - if someone encounters a glitch they wouldn't be able to replay - currently they just have to wait until the end of the month. |
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Post by ABU_Bear on Jan 1, 2016 15:44:28 GMT -5
I wish I could opt out as a member of TGCTours and reapply because I know I wouldn't be in CC-D with the new Q-Schools. Keep playing like you did in Q-School and no doubt you'll move up through the tours. Your score would probably have put you somewhere in CC-B if it was for real, although we have changed out some of the courses for tougher pins. Do you think it's too tough to get promoted/demoted in the CC tours? I think it's easy to get demoted...but very very hard to make your way up the ranks. Many people are exactly where they were when they 1st joined the site or maybe 1 tier higher. The elite players have moved up and that's to be expected, but for the average player to progress up in the tiers..it's near impossible in my opinion. I strongly feel if you win in the CC tiers you should get an auto promotion to the next tier up. You've proven you can win in your current tier...so you should be awarded a promotion.The exemptions are a cool idea...but there's nothing really there for the winner. You can finish 10th and get the exact same reward the winner gets...to me that's unfair. |
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Post by cardofab on Jan 1, 2016 17:04:34 GMT -5
Fabrizio Cardelli (Cardofab)
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Post by hmammoth on Jan 1, 2016 17:08:37 GMT -5
This is something I agree with, the winner should get a promotion to the tier above. It is not easy to get promoted, the standard of golf in the challenge circuit is pretty high, to finish in the top ten is not easy, one mistake in a round can cost a few places, to win takes a lot of effort and should be rewarded. Every now and then a exceptional player comes along and dominates but that's rare. And even in that case, like Ryan Hammond for example, he would have ended up where he belongs a lot faster if his wins had promoted him automatically, something he deserved. Keep the exemptions, they are important and a great thing to aim for. But to win, when playing against players of high quality, a reward is deserved.
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Post by fuzion on Jan 1, 2016 18:36:21 GMT -5
This is something I agree with, the winner should get a promotion to the tier above. It is not easy to get promoted, the standard of golf in the challenge circuit is pretty high, to finish in the top ten is not easy, one mistake in a round can cost a few places, to win takes a lot of effort and should be rewarded. Every now and then a exceptional player comes along and dominates but that's rare. And even in that case, like Ryan Hammond for example, he would have ended up where he belongs a lot faster if his wins had promoted him automatically, something he deserved. Keep the exemptions, they are important and a great thing to aim for. But to win, when playing against players of high quality, a reward is deserved. I'll take a look and see how moving between the CC tours can be improved. Certainly an auto-promotion for wins will be something I'll investigate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 19:31:22 GMT -5
I think CC-B down to CC-Z should get an auto-promotion to the next tier up with a win. No exemption necessary.
Going up to the Pro tours of Web.com, PGA and Euro, I think the rules in place are fine. They are actually lax compared to when I was looking for Web.com to PGA (Need a Top 40 and be the top finisher among all on exemption).
I know the staff are trying hard to keep the highest (PGA and Euro) tours as full as they can, and that is likely why the promotion rules are what they are now. That is fine.
I just have to say one thing that some CC players may or may not take solace on:
If you are in a particular CC-X tier (X = wherever you are) and you are not accumulating strikes too often or not at all and are not getting too many or no exemptions, then likely you are probably in the tier you belong. Sure, you may be able to compete in the tier one above you, but you may have a player in the tier below you putting up somewhat similar scores. Sorry if that is a harsh truth. BUT, and some may take this to heart... Use my little general classification as inspiration to improve and prove me wrong. I would love that!
I would encourage those who look to improve to watch twitch feeds, pick the brains of better players, and read the Tips section. Lastly, practice, practice.
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Post by pablo on Jan 2, 2016 2:39:21 GMT -5
I agree with both Dan and Bob. Gaining an auto-promotion for a win in challenge circuit could be a nice reward. After all, winning should have a "better" prize than finishing third, being both very respectful finishes.
And for sure, in the mid to long terms the promotion and demotion system is fully "fair". We, as players end up playing where we belong. Unless our practice and improvement help us to raise our level
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Post by YANTROPOV on Jan 3, 2016 8:19:44 GMT -5
Finished at +19
CC-Z
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Post by mrooola on Jan 3, 2016 11:07:47 GMT -5
Forgot to post score, but it was -35 ish. Only complaint I would have with the course selection is that most of them play the same. None are overly difficult and produce a challenge pretty much in the same way. Shawnee stood out among the rest and I hated it. Haha. Good course though. Just do sent suite my game at all.
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Post by matdadeeni on Jan 3, 2016 16:43:41 GMT -5
All done -28 (Web). My biggest gripe here is the amount of pin placements which were close (some extremely close) to massive slopes which would carry the ball more than 20ft from the hole. Nothing worse than landing a ball 2ft from the pin and seeing it rapidly disappearing out of view from the hole. A sure fire way to piss off any potential newcomers to the game. Par 5 18th at Dunholme I landed a 3 wood on the green for my 2nd shot, it bounced towards the pin and then proceeded to go in reverse and roll off the front of the green (30ft+ roll). In my opinion these types of designs shouldn't be included in such a tour, but hey it's just my opinion  99% of newcomers playing qschool aren't going to practice these courses in advance, so why have pin placements suited to those on the top tier tours where members play a million practice rounds in advance??? |
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Post by Doyley on Jan 3, 2016 17:05:21 GMT -5
All done -28 (Web). My biggest gripe here is the amount of pin placements which were close (some extremely close) to massive slopes which would carry the ball more than 20ft from the hole. Nothing worse than landing a ball 2ft from the pin and seeing it rapidly disappearing out of view from the hole. A sure fire way to piss off any potential newcomers to the game. Par 5 18th at Dunholme I landed a 3 wood on the green for my 2nd shot, it bounced towards the pin and then proceeded to go in reverse and roll off the front of the green (30ft+ roll). In my opinion these types of designs shouldn't be included in such a tour, but hey it's just my opinion 99% of newcomers playing qschool aren't going to practice these courses in advance, so why have pin placements suited to those on the top tier tours where members play a million practice rounds in advance??? To separate them from those that should be on the top tours. If we make the qschool courses easy it's harder to split people up into the proper tours. Once you get on a tour the courses reflect the skill level of its members. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 8:33:38 GMT -5
Keep playing like you did in Q-School and no doubt you'll move up through the tours. Your score would probably have put you somewhere in CC-B if it was for real, although we have changed out some of the courses for tougher pins. Do you think it's too tough to get promoted/demoted in the CC tours? I think it's easy to get demoted...but very very hard to make your way up the ranks. Many people are exactly where they were when they 1st joined the site or maybe 1 tier higher. The elite players have moved up and that's to be expected, but for the average player to progress up in the tiers..it's near impossible in my opinion. I strongly feel if you win in the CC tiers you should get an auto promotion to the next tier up. You've proven you can win in your current tier...so you should be awarded a promotion.The exemptions are a cool idea...but there's nothing really there for the winner. You can finish 10th and get the exact same reward the winner gets...to me that's unfair. its the the other way around easy to go up very difficult to be demoted |
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Post by ABU_Bear on Jan 4, 2016 15:50:08 GMT -5
I think it's easy to get demoted...but very very hard to make your way up the ranks. Many people are exactly where they were when they 1st joined the site or maybe 1 tier higher. The elite players have moved up and that's to be expected, but for the average player to progress up in the tiers..it's near impossible in my opinion. I strongly feel if you win in the CC tiers you should get an auto promotion to the next tier up. You've proven you can win in your current tier...so you should be awarded a promotion.The exemptions are a cool idea...but there's nothing really there for the winner. You can finish 10th and get the exact same reward the winner gets...to me that's unfair. its the the other way around easy to go up very difficult to be demoted Easy to say when you're already in the top 3 levels  |
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Post by canthitstraight on Jan 4, 2016 23:42:48 GMT -5
Web player, -29 overall
-4, -6, -5, -7, -6, -1
I played this to see just how hard Shawnee Creek was. Weird how it turned out to be my best score. With my score, I feel pretty well placed in Web.com. You guys shooting -60's and -70's are just in another league of your own.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 4:05:16 GMT -5
Question: Have the scores for the new Q-school been updated? I am seeing more new players straight onto the PGA tour than I used to. Edit: I looked here www.tgctours.com/Tournament/QSchoolLeaderBoard/284 and I have a rough estimate of the ranges. If I looked further, they may already posted somewhere. Guess I was just being lazy. Edit 2: Looks like it is this... PGA/Euro: -40 + Web : -30 to -39 CC-A : -20 to -29 CC-B : -10 to -19 CC-C : E to - 9 CC-D : +20 to + 1 CC-E : +21 or higher |
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