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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 16:08:11 GMT -5
have you guys checked the top players on the pc side for the beta 2 tourny?
i just ran a few of the top names on the boards, and one really stood out to me, 75% or so all strait with a worst miss only 1 pixel off the white line, pm me for more info
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Post by firstblitzer on Nov 15, 2014 17:35:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 17:06:06 GMT -5
they corrected the issue, the player is no longer on the boards, good job tgc tours, good job.
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Post by coruler2 on Nov 16, 2014 22:32:05 GMT -5
How do you guys even check this stuff? Is there a feedback report or a video capture for every player or something?
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Post by Doyley on Nov 16, 2014 22:36:14 GMT -5
Easiest way is to play 18 holes and before putting in your last shot - load up ghosts of the guys you want to spot check and then click view replay and go backwards. Can view 95% of a round this way - and fairly quickly since the shot cone comes up within a few seconds and then you can skip to the previous shot right away. Reason for 18 holes is so that you can view all shots (except for the last few on the 18th). If you pull up ghost on 5th hole you can't go forward, only backwards with the replays.
Or you can add a ghost and play with Turn Enabled on but that takes a lot of time if you're just doing it to spot check.
I took a break from my 4 rounds last night and did it while on the green finishing out R3...looks like it was a good move to take a break!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 23:58:40 GMT -5
I just played with turn based on, but thx for tip doyley I will use that method from now own.
Are there players on Xbox and especially ps4 who are spot checking the top players there?
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Post by coruler2 on Nov 17, 2014 0:00:43 GMT -5
Interesting. I've never thought to do this. I also didn't know you can go backwards on the replays. One of you should go back and watch my shot on that drivable par4 on Vale hit the pin and stick on the edge of the cup. Man I wanted that ace on a par4!
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Post by Doyley on Nov 17, 2014 0:00:59 GMT -5
Are there players on Xbox and especially ps4 who are spot checking the top players there? Yes, we have guys doing those systems too. Leaders get spot checked, also requests, and random rounds as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 0:17:07 GMT -5
Good to hear doyley, good to hear. I like it as clean as we can get it.
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Post by anquila1978 on Nov 17, 2014 3:14:38 GMT -5
Are there players on Xbox and especially ps4 who are spot checking the top players there? Yes, we have guys doing those systems too. Leaders get spot checked, also requests, and random rounds as well. Random rounds I understand is fine, Leader spot check is fine to a point but the requested check is one I would like clarified. Taste has done the request in a proper manner by taking the time a verifying his concern but issues arise 1. Those who do not check before submitting a request, are there any etiquette rules for this? 2. Multipe submissions by a person not checking, how many times makes too many times? 3.The person being checked is unaware, I am one that would like to know (no names of the requester need be used) but some backing from the tour to stop new players and those who can't accept that some players are really good from constantly bombarding the tour officials and forums. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 6:22:17 GMT -5
Yes, we have guys doing those systems too. Leaders get spot checked, also requests, and random rounds as well. Random rounds I understand is fine, Leader spot check is fine to a point but the requested check is one I would like clarified. Taste has done the request in a proper manner by taking the time a verifying his concern but issues arise 1. Those who do not check before submitting a request, are there any etiquette rules for this? 2. Multipe submissions by a person not checking, how many times makes too many times? 3.The person being checked is unaware, I am one that would like to know (no names of the requester need be used) but some backing from the tour to stop new players and those who can't accept that some players are really good from constantly bombarding the tour officials and forums. trust me when i say this, players that are just "really good" have nothing to worry about. they are not even close to being as accurate as the zero deviation crowd. zero deviation crowd is for the most part, rather easy to spot, always good off the box, but on the greens, if they miss a downhill putt, they miss bad. that comes down to nothing more than the understanding of the game, they dont have it. you should see how bad leadbelly misses some of his downhill putts. |
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Post by anquila1978 on Nov 17, 2014 7:04:00 GMT -5
Random rounds I understand is fine, Leader spot check is fine to a point but the requested check is one I would like clarified. Taste has done the request in a proper manner by taking the time a verifying his concern but issues arise 1. Those who do not check before submitting a request, are there any etiquette rules for this? 2. Multipe submissions by a person not checking, how many times makes too many times? 3.The person being checked is unaware, I am one that would like to know (no names of the requester need be used) but some backing from the tour to stop new players and those who can't accept that some players are really good from constantly bombarding the tour officials and forums. trust me when i say this, players that are just "really good" have nothing to worry about. they are not even close to being as accurate as the zero deviation crowd. zero deviation crowd is for the most part, rather easy to spot, always good off the box, but on the greens, if they miss a downhill putt, they miss bad. that comes down to nothing more than the understanding of the game, they dont have it. you should see how bad leadbelly misses some of his downhill putts. It is not the clarity of who is or who is not hitting non deviation shots, the point is that there is no deterrent to drive-by accusations, on the facebook page for the TGCTours there have been two post in which a gentleman has flat out stated that the scores achieved are by cheating as there s no way that consistant low rounds are achievable. These are the people that will want every top player checked every round of every tournament because they have a hunch or can't compete at the top end of the leaderboard. They fire out the accuastion or in the case of Nevada send a msg to his console, no action has been defined for these infractions of fair play and in the spirit of the game, no-one should be put off reporting suspicious play but no-one should also be under constant scrutiny because some are not yet at the same level of play. Innocent untill proven guilty was a thing in the past it seems, continuous unfounded accusations should come at a cost balancing those that use the advantage |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 7:41:19 GMT -5
yes i agree with that notion.
but some players just do not understand what constitutes cheating and what doesnt. we cant stop either, the cheating or the players lack of understanding.
the guys who are clean, just need to ride the train out, they have nothing to worry about on their end, they just gotta ignore the hate as best they can.
you should have seen the love/hate i received in the last shooter i played.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 7:53:17 GMT -5
I would think a 2 stroke penalty, times the number of rounds the tournament is, for falsely identifying someone as zero deviation is in order here. Taste checks himself then advises the director, that's good, helpful and an extra set of eyes. He make no false accusations. Doyley, the main man has given a great tip on how to check, so there is no excuse for falsely accusing anyone. Maybe it would help stop the wack jobs that think anybody better then them is cheating. That's annoying as heck, these nut jobs spend 20 minutes a week playing in some cases, been here for weeks and days not months and months.
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Post by snapdecks on Nov 17, 2014 8:53:06 GMT -5
I think a penalty for those who falsely accuse may scare people away from getting involved in regulation. I'm not sure if it's the best way to go. I never check or report except for once but I'm sure many people reported that one. All you guys who are very good at this game could take it as a compliment when someone who doesn't understand the reality make these claims. Granted I don't know how much time these false claims take from the guys running this for us but in reality if you've spent time online you know there are many clowns who just need to be ignored. As for those sad grown men who need to cause this nonsense by not following the rules, Well what can be said. I wish I got accused of cheating  never gunna happen, but if I did I'd have some fun with it. |
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never gunna happen, but if I did I'd have some fun with it.