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Post by Brighttail on Oct 31, 2015 20:08:34 GMT -5
Went into my stats to see how things have been since the last patch. Just wanted to share the rollercoaster it has been. Strangely I've been better at the longer putts. I attribute this to trying to take a fluid swing for the short putts and pounding it 10 feet by. Either way, I'd be interested to see Fuzion's stats for the last 2 months and anyone else using the mouse swing.
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Post by franz joop on Nov 3, 2015 17:49:13 GMT -5
I'm glad i see this as I'm completely flummoxed by putting lately .I was thinking it just me and am ready to give game away .. my short putt stats have gone from 99% to 98% since patch..i know it doesn't seem like a big drop .
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Post by canthitstraight on Nov 3, 2015 18:18:05 GMT -5
I actually adapted very well to the new, less fluid and intuitive, more mechanical and precise putting. My only problem with it is when my computer decides to release my putt without my approval.
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Post by franz joop on Nov 3, 2015 19:35:42 GMT -5
I actually adapted very well to the new, less fluid and intuitive, more mechanical and precise putting. My only problem with it is when my computer decides to release my putt without my approval. strange you say precise as i would say it random..pulling back putter to start of foot used to be 15-20ft putt for me depending on up or down hill on average speed green , now that same putt can go anywhere between 8-30ft ...but there could be other things i'm not taking into account ... i just not enjoying game and sort of dread having to play rounds of tournament...
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Post by canthitstraight on Nov 3, 2015 19:45:16 GMT -5
I actually adapted very well to the new, less fluid and intuitive, more mechanical and precise putting. My only problem with it is when my computer decides to release my putt without my approval. strange you say precise as i would say it random..pulling back putter to start of foot used to be 15-20ft putt for me depending on up or down hill on average speed green , now that same putt can go anywhere between 8-30ft ...but there could be other things i'm not taking into account ... i just not enjoying game and sort of dread having to play rounds of tournament... I don't think we have exactly the same problem here. For me, sometimes I can't even pull it to my feet because the mouse decides it wants to detect forward movement, hence releasing the shot sometimes for a 0 foot shot.
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Post by Brighttail on Nov 3, 2015 20:32:32 GMT -5
Ouch... Yeah i'd put that as a bug for HB for sure. The putter should not go forward until you push forward.
With putting if it is a putt that is longer, like 20-30 feet I can take a fluid swing. 10 feet and under I simply cannot do it as the swing is too fast and I either start the swing way too early and go about 3 feet or blow it by the hole 20 feet. So I have to pull it back little by little then hit it, same with the really longer putts.
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Post by canthitstraight on Nov 3, 2015 20:49:11 GMT -5
Ouch... Yeah i'd put that as a bug for HB for sure. The putter should not go forward until you push forward. With putting if it is a putt that is longer, like 20-30 feet I can take a fluid swing. 10 feet and under I simply cannot do it as the swing is too fast and I either start the swing way too early and go about 3 feet or blow it by the hole 20 feet. So I have to pull it back little by little then hit it, same with the really longer putts. I suppose one of these days I should make an account on the HB website and submit the problem ticket. I've googled the issue and I haven't been able to find anyone else that has described this exact issue with the mouse. I think I saw someone on the 360 have this issue of inadvertently creating 0 feet putts.
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Post by franz joop on Nov 3, 2015 22:33:15 GMT -5
strange you say precise as i would say it random..pulling back putter to start of foot used to be 15-20ft putt for me depending on up or down hill on average speed green , now that same putt can go anywhere between 8-30ft ...but there could be other things i'm not taking into account ... i just not enjoying game and sort of dread having to play rounds of tournament... I don't think we have exactly the same problem here. For me, sometimes I can't even pull it to my feet because the mouse decides it wants to detect forward movement, hence releasing the shot sometimes for a 0 foot shot. yeah sorry should have made clear im on ps4..not using mouse. but yes had the 0 ft putts also ....not many others seem to have these problems ...hence most people will think we forgot how to play or have had minor stroke and our motor skills are dwindling .
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Post by canthitstraight on Nov 3, 2015 22:49:40 GMT -5
I don't think we have exactly the same problem here. For me, sometimes I can't even pull it to my feet because the mouse decides it wants to detect forward movement, hence releasing the shot sometimes for a 0 foot shot. yeah sorry should have made clear im on ps4..not using mouse. but yes had the 0 ft putts also ....not many others seem to have these problems ...hence most people will think we forgot how to play or have had minor stroke and our motor skills are dwindling . My guess is it's a connection issue. But then again, I've got Verizon FIOS and it's been great for six years running now. 60 Mbps down 60 Mbps up... so not sure if it's my connection, my computer, or maybe software conflicts. With a PS4 at least you can rule out the hardware being an issue.
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Post by franz joop on Nov 4, 2015 0:44:57 GMT -5
yeah sorry should have made clear im on ps4..not using mouse. but yes had the 0 ft putts also ....not many others seem to have these problems ...hence most people will think we forgot how to play or have had minor stroke and our motor skills are dwindling . My guess is it's a connection issue. But then again, I've got Verizon FIOS and it's been great for six years running now. 60 Mbps down 60 Mbps up... so not sure if it's my connection, my computer, or maybe software conflicts. With a PS4 at least you can rule out the hardware being an issue. funny you say network connection , as only other game i play on ps4 is Rocket league and it has felt sluggish last month or two ...im running connection thru wifi currently , i think i'll run a ethernet cable straight to it see if any improvement..cheers for the idea
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Post by canthitstraight on Nov 4, 2015 0:58:07 GMT -5
My guess is it's a connection issue. But then again, I've got Verizon FIOS and it's been great for six years running now. 60 Mbps down 60 Mbps up... so not sure if it's my connection, my computer, or maybe software conflicts. With a PS4 at least you can rule out the hardware being an issue. funny you say network connection , as only other game i play on ps4 is Rocket league and it has felt sluggish last month or two ...im running connection thru wifi currently , i think i'll run a ethernet cable straight to it see if any improvement..cheers for the idea Unfortunately, I'm already wired up. So there goes that option!
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Post by franz joop on Nov 4, 2015 21:16:15 GMT -5
ok hard wired my ps4 and played a bit of TST tour ,no better...back to wifi and i tried just a normal basic vanilla round, game ran perfect putting was lovely and fluent ,tried another player made course ,game ran prefect putting again was smooth...so tried the current CC_A tour event and game was terrible again... could it be something to do with the tours ....
also had this happen and this happen quite often
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Post by Brighttail on Nov 4, 2015 22:08:54 GMT -5
ok hard wired my ps4 and played a bit of TST tour ,no better...back to wifi and i tried just a normal basic vanilla round, game ran perfect putting was lovely and fluent ,tried another player made course ,game ran prefect putting again was smooth...so tried the current CC_A tour event and game was terrible again... could it be something to do with the tours .... also had this happen and this happen quite often Holy crap. That is a first I've seen that. The replay stuff, you can't trust it but that first shot was very odd. That is something you need to post to the BUG section of HB's forums because Anthony is trying to figure out what is going on with some of the physics since the last patch. What happened here is seemingly so wrong and to have such a big discrepancy between the live shot and the replay is another issue. Anthony has stated that "on rare occasions when a shot is played and replayed or seen on another screen, small calculations like green slope and other things that may be too small for the naked eye to differentiate, can cause different outcomes when the GPUs crunch the numbers and round slightly differently." That seems like a LARGE difference to me. Post it so he can see it, include if you can the date and roughly the time you played so he can pull the data on the shot. Hopefully they can get this stuff figured out. While I haven't seen a pitch shot jump that forward like that, I have seen other shots take very weird bounces that defy explanation. One of the bounces that Bradley got against me was he hit short on a par three, the slope he hit before the green was sloped right to left, the green was right to left and the ball should have bounced left, instead it bounced about 30 degrees to the right and rolled into the hole for a hole in one. I suppose in that slope there could have been a very minor indentation that was covered up by the grass that sloped the opposite direction but I find that highly unlikely.
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Post by canthitstraight on Nov 4, 2015 22:43:46 GMT -5
Wow.. that's pretty bad. It's like the approach shot was hitting a downhill slope and just ricocheted in a way that makes zero sense. The replay is what should have happened.
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Post by Brighttail on Nov 6, 2015 18:28:21 GMT -5
Just finished playing in the HB tournament. All was going well in the first round, -5 through 6 or so and I come up to #7. I have like an 8 foot putt, pull back my normal range for 8 feet and then proceed to blast it by 30 feet down a hill. I mean it FLEW down that hill. I grumble a bit, putt the ball back up the hill and go a little too far and have a 4 foot putt. Pull back just a little and BAM, flies over the hole and down the hill another 25+ feet. Ended up -5 on a super easy course first round with a lucky flop in eagle on #18. This is my problem with putting now. I can physically pull the ball back the same amount each time and have 5 different results of a putt when it comes to distance. I tried this on a 15 foot putt. I put a sticky note on my screen to show where I was going to pull the putter back each time. It was about 2 inches up hill straight. Dropped my ball on my practice course and began. First time dead center. Second time 6 feet past. Third time 2 feet short. Fourth 8 feet past and fifth short by 2 inches. Only thing I could surmise is i'm moving the mouse forward at different speeds. It is possible. Since putting for me isn't fluid and i have to stop when I pull it back, i guess i have little control or little understanding of how fast forward i'm pushing the mouse. I mean it isn't a putting stroke in any way, it is like the Charles Barkley stroke of putting. I gotta figure out some way if fixing this cause I can't continue like this. Oh and if you care, my second round of the HB knockout tournament I was either throwing darts or chipping/flopping in. I made 2 or 3 eagles and like 5-6 chip ins for birdies. The game is much easier when half the holes you don't have to putt! Final score 54 (-17) for a total -22 which should get me through to the next round but damn...so frustrating.
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