|
Post by Brighttail on Nov 8, 2015 14:11:35 GMT -5
I'm seeing some progress here. In changing how I look at putts, I've found that the glass edges don't come into play if you are hitting hole speed. Before I would normally aim 1 to 2 feet beyond the cup but when I would do that if it hits an edge it would simply run over the edge as if it wasn't there and sometimes even a ball rolling over the center would do the same. Basically it looks like to me HB has changed the putting to penalize most any ball hit to go beyond the hole more than a few inches.
Of course this is my perspective. I'm still struggling with the short to mid putts, often times pounding them much harder than they need to be.
I was sent a new mouse to test so I'm using the G.Skill MX780. I may give that a shot in a tournament round as I continue to test things out.
It is really frustrating to know you can play, I scored a -17 earlier in an HB tourney but only -5 after taking a quad bogey in the previous round due to a 6 putt.
Overall I think I'm striking the ball well, getting within 5-15 feet on the majority of my shots, it is just the putting that is lacking with this new patch.
|
|
|
Post by Morgan-esque on Nov 11, 2015 8:37:43 GMT -5
Thought I'd post this and re-open Putting for debate. I was pretty disgusted when I saw this putt pop out the hole.
Based on the post above, it's either dead-weight or the highway?
|
|
|
Post by mcbogga on Nov 11, 2015 9:39:03 GMT -5
With all due respect - that's another borderline one that I think the game got right. It sure looks like it would have gone at least 12-15 feet past had it not hit the hole. What happens in real life when you hit a downhill putt at a 12-15 feet past pace from 17 feet?
It's a bit like an optical illusion - but good real life holing speed would have the ball stop on or just after the first grid line behind the hole... Putt like that and they will drop.
Aggressive putting would be the ball stopping around the second grid line beyond the hole...
|
|
|
Post by Morgan-esque on Nov 11, 2015 10:55:03 GMT -5
I know you like to troll.
That putt is uphill in the last foot or 2. It was bang in the hole. It was not going THAT fast. If that was a real life putt it goes in.
|
|
|
Post by mcbogga on Nov 11, 2015 11:26:19 GMT -5
No trolling - debating like you asked for. Borderline putt - but more relevant than others posted as it is center cup. I've seen putts like that go in for sure, I've seen them miss as well without reacting too much about it. Both in game and IRL. Maybe HB put some random on the cup?
It was hit way too hard in either case. How far away do you think it would stop if it had missed the hole completely?
|
|
|
Post by Brighttail on Nov 11, 2015 11:30:15 GMT -5
Thank you for the video, I sent it to Anthony who has Rob looking into it. As I explained to him, since the last patch it really does seem to me that I have to hit putts pretty much hole speed or these types of things can happen. This particular putt did seem to be a little firm, but as you said it was uphill the last couple of feet but it is in line with my general observations. In my first two rounds of this week's PGA tournament, I had several balls lip the edge of the hole and fall in. I haven't had that happen since last patch and they were all just dying in speed as they reached the hole.
Anthony said they haven't changed any physics, and doesn't know what could be causing it, but with the videos several of us has shared he does admit some things aren't looking right. Hopefully they will figure out what has changed.
|
|
|
Post by Morgan-esque on Nov 11, 2015 12:00:18 GMT -5
No trolling - debating like you asked for. Borderline putt - but more relevant than others posted as it is center cup. I've seen putts like that go in for sure, I've seen them miss as well without reacting too much about it. Both in game and IRL. Maybe HB put some random on the cup? It was hit way too hard in either case. How far away do you think it would stop if it had missed the hole completely? I'll be honest and say it wasn't my usual way of putting but because of speed golf I just picked a line and went for it. It may have ended up 4 foot past, but I didn't think it was going at such a rate it would pop out. If I had time to take that putt I'd have moved the market more left and less pace definitely. But as this instance was a bit harder and centre cup it should've gone in. Not sure where the line is though in terms of pace IRL. I know I've probably contradicted myself there. But with all putts, there's different ways of getting it in the hole.
|
|
|
Post by mcbogga on Nov 11, 2015 12:12:21 GMT -5
Limit speed on center cup lines is around 4.4 feet per second (9 revs/sec). Note that this is perfect center of cup and it decreases quickly straying just a bit outside.
So - ball-parking deceleration and assuming HB actually has good basic physics in place - the question becomes if that ball in the video would take less than 1.5 second or so to hit the second grid line beyond the cup. I'm guessing it would which means the speed at the hole was in a very risky range and probably too quick to drop.
That said - there seems to be some strangeness to the edges for breaking putts where even reasonably paced balls slide over. So worth investigating.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 13:23:28 GMT -5
Thought I'd post this and re-open Putting for debate. I was pretty disgusted when I saw this putt pop out the hole. Based on the post above, it's either dead-weight or the highway? I do agree with McBogga. I think that it's hit too quickly there, it picks up some speed downhill too. A lighter putt was needed in my opinion. Also, I've not noticed weird putting but i don't putt aggressively. My mate Gavlaar has noticed a lot though but he's an aggressive putter that slams ball in so I'm thinking there's no problem with the game at all its just people putting too hard. I could be wrong but that's my opinion.
|
|