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Post by TravisC555 on Aug 3, 2015 16:34:17 GMT -5
I have to say that I kinda actually enjoyed the challenge of this course a little bit. I was shooting E to +3 or 4 in practice rounds, but that never seems to carry over to the tournament rounds... I have been improving after the disaster that was Hoodoo Hills, thanks to hooks and slices that went into the OB a couple times on the same hole on the tee. I finished at +19 which is greatly improving from the last two tourneys with a score of +78 (Hoodoo Hills) and +35 (Loa Pali). So overall pretty happy with myself! Now to go play some practice rounds on Hau'oli Mino'aka and face my next challenge.
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Post by bradbtr16 on Aug 3, 2015 17:48:59 GMT -5
+7 and + 10 in the first two rounds.......can't wait for Madden to come out. ?
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Post by kiwi on Aug 3, 2015 23:56:44 GMT -5
As a Ranger...did you pre scout this course and the last course? What was your take on it before the tourneys? Was your input taken into consideration? I'm not pulling punches..I just want to know how/why the lower players have to endure the same courses and actually harder courses than a few of the higher divisions. I realize what it is like to run a website and moderate a site, I have years of experience in it myself. I'm just curious what protocol is used to pick the same courses for every level. Hi Jim Yes, though there were five options/courses Days 1-4 with different pins an This version. The last course yes as well ... Hodo an again there were 4 options/course different pins. The powers to be, select the course, if the pass the last test (us Rangers) What there looking for from us Rangers is: Pins fair Lag an any V/card issues seen or noticed any OB that should or shouldnt be added as well as any thing else that may need tending to before releasing it to tours. I didn't play Hodo hills (I had mouse/controller issues) But I did test it out ... I thought it was ok, though did mention about one pin placement, an my inability to play the correct shot to thee pin. The designer takes all our feed back into consideration. Dont get me wrong, I'm struggling to play well on these tougher courses as well, like I mention they try find a happy medium CC-A to CC-Z but just of late its been on the tougher side. The powers to be as well as course selector/s choose the course/s As for any unanswered questions, Sorry I dont know perhaps email Doyley
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Post by Orion on Aug 4, 2015 0:50:17 GMT -5
Hi Kiwi,
Glad to see you back Brother and hope things get better for you with the new swing. I am also thanking you for taking the time to answer some of the posted concerns of some of the players. I fully understand the role of the Ranger and what is expected of them. One question that I have (and you may not want to answer this or can not for any number of reasons), do you think that the Staff is aware of this backlash effect that the new changes have brought about with us lesser skilled players? Not trying to put you on the spot with this, just more or less your opinion about the growing disenchantment with the courses and level of difficulty, especially with the wind fix in place and it's role in all of this. Don't feel obligated to answer this, just throwing it out there. I've watched your scoring average increase just as much as mine has and trying to get a par round lately is not an easy task. You can always talk to me offline if you wish.
Anyway, glad to have you back, keep up the practicing, and hope your week goes better than mine did. I finished this evening and although the milder winds of round 4 were a welcomed relief, my putting still sucks and not sure why it has gone away from me. Overall, shot 81-81-76-74. The only bright spots in round 4 were two, back-to-back chip ins at hole #17 for a birdie and an eagle chip-in at hole #18 to bring down my score from +5 to +2. It was a nice relief to not have to putt to finish this course and the tourney.
Orion...............................
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Post by kiwi on Aug 4, 2015 2:05:02 GMT -5
Hi Kiwi,
Glad to see you back Brother and hope things get better for you with the new swing. I am also thanking you for taking the time to answer some of the posted concerns of some of the players. I fully understand the role of the Ranger and what is expected of them. One question that I have (and you may not want to answer this or can not for any number of reasons), do you think that the Staff is aware of this backlash effect that the new changes have brought about with us lesser skilled players? Not trying to put you on the spot with this, just more or less your opinion about the growing disenchantment with the courses and level of difficulty, especially with the wind fix in place and it's role in all of this. Don't feel obligated to answer this, just throwing it out there. I've watched your scoring average increase just as much as mine has and trying to get a par round lately is not an easy task. You can always talk to me offline if you wish.
Anyway, glad to have you back, keep up the practicing, and hope your week goes better than mine did. I finished this evening and although the milder winds of round 4 were a welcomed relief, my putting still sucks and not sure why it has gone away from me. Overall, shot 81-81-76-74. The only bright spots in round 4 were two, back-to-back chip ins at hole #17 for a birdie and an eagle chip-in at hole #18 to bring down my score from +5 to +2. It was a nice relief to not have to putt to finish this course and the tourney.
Orion...............................
Orion
To answer your question
I would hope so,I know Doyley reads a lot of the CC groups threads an I would say yes,I would like to think they take our opinions an consider us avg Joes/hacks
anyways, send him a PM an ask ...so I cant really answer for him or the powers to be.
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Post by Orion on Aug 4, 2015 2:16:42 GMT -5
Kiwi, Exactly the answer I was expecting. I have sent a message and nothing yet. I know that they are busy, and I am not unknown to Scott, we have spoken many, many times. I'll touch base with him shortly, do not want to make a pest of myself. But you answered exactly as I would have expected. It's all good, do not fret on that statement. Scott and I have a little history together, a good one overall. But thanks for your response, seems to me that I might have to get my hands a little dirty here, so I need to proceed with caution and respect. Will keep you updated when I hear something.
Thanks,
Orion.......................
Hi Kiwi,
Glad to see you back Brother and hope things get better for you with the new swing. I am also thanking you for taking the time to answer some of the posted concerns of some of the players. I fully understand the role of the Ranger and what is expected of them. One question that I have (and you may not want to answer this or can not for any number of reasons), do you think that the Staff is aware of this backlash effect that the new changes have brought about with us lesser skilled players? Not trying to put you on the spot with this, just more or less your opinion about the growing disenchantment with the courses and level of difficulty, especially with the wind fix in place and it's role in all of this. Don't feel obligated to answer this, just throwing it out there. I've watched your scoring average increase just as much as mine has and trying to get a par round lately is not an easy task. You can always talk to me offline if you wish.
Anyway, glad to have you back, keep up the practicing, and hope your week goes better than mine did. I finished this evening and although the milder winds of round 4 were a welcomed relief, my putting still sucks and not sure why it has gone away from me. Overall, shot 81-81-76-74. The only bright spots in round 4 were two, back-to-back chip ins at hole #17 for a birdie and an eagle chip-in at hole #18 to bring down my score from +5 to +2. It was a nice relief to not have to putt to finish this course and the tourney.
Orion...............................
Orion
To answer your question
I would hope so,I know Doyley reads a lot of the CC groups threads an I would say yes,I would like to think they take our opinions an consider us avg Joes/hacks
anyways, send him a PM an ask ...so I cant really answer for him or the powers to be.
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Post by kiwi on Aug 4, 2015 2:48:15 GMT -5
Kiwi, Exactly the answer I was expecting. I have sent a message and nothing yet. I know that they are busy, and I am not unknown to Scott, we have spoken many, many times. I'll touch base with him shortly, do not want to make a pest of myself. But you answered exactly as I would have expected. It's all good, do not fret on that statement. Scott and I have a little history together, a good one overall. But thanks for your response, seems to me that I might have to get my hands a little dirty here, so I need to proceed with caution and respect. Will keep you updated when I hear something.
Thanks,
Orion.......................
Orion
Yer, I know we need something less challenging, yet something that isn't to easy but finding that course an conditions with pins .. possible they are still sorting or in sorting mode of players an CC groups
So what I'm saying is yes CC E an CC Z need something less harder than whats been offered, in Course/Pins
otherwise, I can see ...an well hearing (reading CC groups gripes if you like of players saying this an that) some disgruntlement an get a feeling those will drop away off or disappear
I'm reading a few players in most groups struggling ... maybe not to our extent,but still voicing/posting about it!
here's my thinking of what might be a future idea could be
eg:
ABC play xyz course (hard) DEZ play zyx course (easy)
I think they need to divide us , so we play our ability course an perhaps toss/throw in an ABC course now an then an not what we seem to be getting week in/week out
P.S Found this post tgctours.proboards.com/thread/4315/get-involved-community-course-selection
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Post by ozgreat on Aug 4, 2015 3:54:05 GMT -5
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I completed all my rounds.
As an Aussie, all I can say is I made a damn good cricket score!.
Kind regards to all,
oz
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 4, 2015 6:01:36 GMT -5
As a Ranger...did you pre scout this course and the last course? What was your take on it before the tourneys? Was your input taken into consideration? I'm not pulling punches..I just want to know how/why the lower players have to endure the same courses and actually harder courses than a few of the higher divisions. I realize what it is like to run a website and moderate a site, I have years of experience in it myself. I'm just curious what protocol is used to pick the same courses for every level. Hi Jim Yes, though there were five options/courses Days 1-4 with different pins an This version. The last course yes as well ... Hodo an again there were 4 options/course different pins. The powers to be, select the course, if the pass the last test (us Rangers) What there looking for from us Rangers is: Pins fair Lag an any V/card issues seen or noticed any OB that should or shouldnt be added as well as any thing else that may need tending to before releasing it to tours. I didn't play Hodo hills (I had mouse/controller issues) But I did test it out ... I thought it was ok, though did mention about one pin placement, an my inability to play the correct shot to thee pin. The designer takes all our feed back into consideration. Dont get me wrong, I'm struggling to play well on these tougher courses as well, like I mention they try find a happy medium CC-A to CC-Z but just of late its been on the tougher side. The powers to be as well as course selector/s choose the course/s As for any unanswered questions, Sorry I dont know perhaps email Doyley Thanks for the reply. The thing I don't get is how anyone could test Thousand Islands and think the pin placements were acceptable from a golf perspective.
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Post by lewis9 on Aug 4, 2015 8:23:03 GMT -5
Using loft and little draws and fades is key here. Without using these shots it's almost impossible to stop the ball on the green.
With a little practice though, this course can be played well and birdies can be made!
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 4, 2015 8:25:36 GMT -5
Using loft and little draws and fades is key here. Without using these shots it's almost impossible to keep the stop the ball on the green. With a little practice though, this course can be played well and birdies can be made! and then the tournament hits..and you forget everything you learned
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Post by Orion on Aug 4, 2015 11:56:08 GMT -5
Kiwi,
Part of the whole problem, as I see it, is how these courses are rated. What I mean is that you can see at any course's home page, the "Difficulty" may say "EASY". Come back to that same course in a day or two and now it is "HARD". I know that this comes from people rating the course with that "Wheel thing" that has min and max with arrows. Then, there are the number ratings that I have no idea what means what. Some courses may have for example a "7.5" and the difficulty is Hard, then others have numbers like 8 or 9 and difficulty as Easy. Others may have an 8 or 9 and difficulty as Hard?? Makes no sense and think there should be a definitive way to tell all of us whether a course is Easy, Hard, etc. The difficulty rating is based upon how a person feels at the end of a bad round and could drive the wheel to min just because he is pissed, not really that the course is easy or hard. Very confusing system I think. I know the designers rate their courses and then we as players rate the difficulty with that wheel. I have heard Scott's explanation many times and still do not understand it at all. Maybe something should be published explaining how is course is rated as an easy course or hard, something to explain it to us dumb folks. There should be a standard for all courses to meet. Better players rate the courses as easy but us average guys would say that it is Hard. This type of rating is where the confusion lies I think and should be subject to a better standard, something that is fixed and definitive.
Just am getting tired of all of this Easy, Hard, just smoke and mirrors I think. I agree that we do need some challenging courses to play, but not to the level that we are getting at this point in time. I used to shoot below par and on courses that were rated as Hard. Sure the wind thing before it was fixed played a role in the sub par rounds, but I did play in medium winds also and still managed to score well. What has changed? Am totally baffled about all of this now. Did this wind fix by HB do something unknown to the game, do not know? But, it is not the same game as it was one and a half months ago. All of the little updates with the swing seems to be a consideration to me and am wondering if there is some unknown, unpublished code running in the background causing some strange effects to the playing of the game now. Conspiracy theory, maybe???(LOL)
Orion......................
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Post by dopesaks on Aug 4, 2015 14:29:20 GMT -5
This game just isn't fun anymore. I still can't get a consistent swing going after a good week of practicing. This update really screwed my game over. Been playing since day 1 then after a year they decide to change it, sh%$ has me furious. Think I'm going to withdraw from these tournaments until they fix it, which I hate to do because the tourneys added a whole new element to the game that I love.
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Post by kiwi on Aug 4, 2015 14:38:34 GMT -5
hey all
golfers,friends an Joe Hack 's (yes thats me included) Have a read here tgctours.proboards.com/thread/4315/get-involved-community-course-selection course selections are mentioned an some of the question/s that were asked that I didnt know the answer for
As for testing, I dont test each an every course , we do or are meant to post our scores for that in the Ranger thread.
The Hodo an the other course (cant recall the name) I tested one version of each of the courses When I played them, I think I shoot 78-80 both played overall reasonable tough, I think I noted an added a few pin placements a lil tough for sure.... not sure if they were changed or not,but the designers did ask (pins)
... maybe they need more course selectors Or CC Groups D,E,Z need our level of challenge , with a now an then (say 1:4) toss in a CC Group A,B,C course
anyways any ideas or suggestions ... post in the above thread link post
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Post by phodg on Aug 4, 2015 19:06:26 GMT -5
Second week on the tour for me. Just shot +23 on the first round. This course is just way too hard for me. No fun at all.
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