Henric
Weekend Golfer
Posts: 101
TGCT Name: Henric Edwards
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Post by Henric on Aug 3, 2015 8:04:53 GMT -5
82 for a +10... I've played 65 rounds in the game and this is what I can do? My best practice round on this course is +1. I have to agree with Allan. These super slippery green with every other hole placed directly in a slope just isn't fun. In the end, the useless results I post aren't the course. I'm just not getting any better. I still slice, hook and can't judge wind drift to save my life. All my approach shots are crap, and when I do land one close there is so much backspin it rolls off the green entirely. I'm just dejected now. I'm not having fun right now.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 3, 2015 9:37:34 GMT -5
Nope...you're not alone. Seriously have thought about pulling the plug on this game countless times in the past 2 weeks. I know they send out Rangers on each course before each tournament..but how about the Rangers each week be the previous week's winner, the last person in the top 70 and the person finishing last in the tournament...maybe then you'd get a good read at how tough the course will be for the field. I honestly believe someone gets aroused by seeing some of the ballooned scores some of us put up week after week. Hey..whatever turns yer crank I guess. I'll see ya in CC-E next week...I'll be earning my 3rd strike in CC-D this week after 3 tournaments played. Hi Jim
I'm a Ranger, our purpose is to test out course/s for tours , an leave feed back for the powers to be as well as the creator of said course.
We look for lag an or how much drain on our cards Also, pins , OB an any other minor faults that we come across, most of these course have been already approve to the tours,we just post feed back.
We do an can say, course X is good for Tour xyz ...usually the Thread title to said course testing has its recommended or suggested tour.
An yes,I agree .. us avg Joes need something less tougher, but finding that or the right course/s an pins an conditions over four rounds, with keeping it fair an even , yet a lil challenging is the key.
What that Key is above, yet I dont know the answer to all the above my suggestion/thoughts of said combo's to make it so ....As a Ranger...did you pre scout this course and the last course? What was your take on it before the tourneys? Was your input taken into consideration? I'm not pulling punches..I just want to know how/why the lower players have to endure the same courses and actually harder courses than a few of the higher divisions. I realize what it is like to run a website and moderate a site, I have years of experience in it myself. I'm just curious what protocol is used to pick the same courses for every level.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 3, 2015 9:40:16 GMT -5
82 for a +10... I've played 65 rounds in the game and this is what I can do? My best practice round on this course is +1. I have to agree with Allan. These super slippery green with every other hole placed directly in a slope just isn't fun. In the end, the useless results I post aren't the course. I'm just not getting any better. I still slice, hook and can't judge wind drift to save my life. All my approach shots are crap, and when I do land one close there is so much backspin it rolls off the green entirely. I'm just dejected now. I'm not having fun right now. I share your pain brother.
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Henric
Weekend Golfer
Posts: 101
TGCT Name: Henric Edwards
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Post by Henric on Aug 3, 2015 9:45:20 GMT -5
Christ, I can't even find it in me to start my second round due to fear of what the winds might be like thia time around...
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 3, 2015 9:54:10 GMT -5
Christ, I can't even find it in me to start my second round due to fear of what the winds might be like thia time around... I think 2nd round starts at around 13mph cross wind....3rd round is a bit higher...final round starts at around 7mph and gusts up to around 13mph. I played many rounds with those winds in practice and never shot over 79 until the tournament. I had 3 rounds in the 80's in the tourney and will be in CC-E for the next tournament.
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Aug 3, 2015 10:17:02 GMT -5
I imagine most people with be frustrated. It was tough. Winds and decent pin positions i can stand but tough winds and pin positions on greens that are very very difficult to get close to make it very very challenging. I posted +1 altogether for my 4 rounds which i managed to play consecutively. I had to focus for every single shot and afterwards i was exhausted. Not quite sure how i will manage the next event. If we think this was bad, we are going to have a big wake up call for the next one Good luck all
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 3, 2015 10:45:04 GMT -5
I imagine most people with be frustrated. It was tough. Winds and decent pin positions i can stand but tough winds and pin positions on greens that are very very difficult to get close to make it very very challenging. I posted +1 altogether for my 4 rounds which i managed to play consecutively. I had to focus for every single shot and afterwards i was exhausted. Not quite sure how i will manage the next event. If we think this was bad, we are going to have a big wake up call for the next one Good luck all I don't find the next course to be near as difficult from the few rounds I've played. It's tough too, but nowhere near the greens of Thousand Islands.
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Henric
Weekend Golfer
Posts: 101
TGCT Name: Henric Edwards
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Post by Henric on Aug 3, 2015 11:25:33 GMT -5
Well. 91 for +19 R2. Great fun. Kind of gave up after 6-putting or something silly like that. A train wreck really. Leaving the last two rounds for the last minute. Have absolutely zero interest in more tour play currently. I well and truly suck at this game. Like badly.
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Aug 3, 2015 11:47:49 GMT -5
I imagine most people with be frustrated. It was tough. Winds and decent pin positions i can stand but tough winds and pin positions on greens that are very very difficult to get close to make it very very challenging. I posted +1 altogether for my 4 rounds which i managed to play consecutively. I had to focus for every single shot and afterwards i was exhausted. Not quite sure how i will manage the next event. If we think this was bad, we are going to have a big wake up call for the next one Good luck all I don't find the next course to be near as difficult from the few rounds I've played. It's tough too, but nowhere near the greens of Thousand Islands. I'm sorry i just cant agree with you on that.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 3, 2015 12:00:07 GMT -5
I'm not doing too bad on the next course...leaving a lot strokes out there..but routinely I'm shooting in the 76(+4) area. Lots of 3 woods and 5 woods off the tee, the driver may just stay in the bag.
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Aug 3, 2015 13:20:17 GMT -5
I'm not doing too bad on the next course...leaving a lot strokes out there..but routinely I'm shooting in the 76(+4) area. Lots of 3 woods and 5 woods off the tee, the driver may just stay in the bag. Good to hear. I'm quietly confident i can adopt a damage limitation approach and get it round very carefully. If winds are set at 10mph then fine but if they are higher then its going to be very difficult in my opinion.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 3, 2015 13:27:14 GMT -5
I'm not doing too bad on the next course...leaving a lot strokes out there..but routinely I'm shooting in the 76(+4) area. Lots of 3 woods and 5 woods off the tee, the driver may just stay in the bag. Good to hear. I'm quietly confident i can adopt a damage limitation approach and get it round very carefully. If winds are set at 10mph then fine but if they are higher then its going to be very difficult in my opinion.I just shot a personal best 72 practice round on Hau'oli Mino'aka in 5-10mph winds
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Henric
Weekend Golfer
Posts: 101
TGCT Name: Henric Edwards
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Post by Henric on Aug 3, 2015 14:07:20 GMT -5
Finished with a 77 and a 78. Yeah. Couldn't stay away. Will not be playing this course voluntarily again, that's for sure!
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Post by ramjr0116 on Aug 3, 2015 14:30:30 GMT -5
Hi Jim,
I usually do not like getting involved with someone's frustration, but with the statements on the Rangers and the role that they play, just think that your speaking out of total frustration and I can really understand that. I've been here since the very beginning, even before this tour was started and I've seen and been part of most everything that has happened here. Personally, I am totally in the same frame of mind as you appear to be at this moment. I can understand the disappointment, the anger, frustration, all of it. BUT, one thing I know is that there is nothing "unusual or deception" going on here with respect to the role of the Rangers. I know a couple and they do not fit your suggestion that they do not really see the torment and "unfairness" that a lot of us are experiencing right now. I'm not trying to crack your head or beat you up about this, just wanted you to know that not all is as it may seem to you. The ones that I know are playing just as bad as you and I may be at this time and they too struggle with this new format. One in particular has been here just as long as I have and I know him to be a straight up honest guy who would never try to put a fast one over on anyone.
I am totally discouraged by everything that is happening at this time. I believe that it is somewhat of a no win situation for the average to less than average golfer to have to play the same level of difficulty courses as the better players do. All I see is my average score continuing to increase as the weeks go by, I feel that there is no chance for players like me to hope to improve over time and the hope for an exemption is a thing of the past. I know that I do not possess the skills of the better players. But, at this time as all seems to be balancing out within the different levels and I feel that I am indeed playing with more players of my skill level. We all want to play the best we can and it is hard to accept the fact that we just are up against much better players on much harder courses. There seems to be some inequity about the new format and I see that all is for the betterment of the better players. Average to less than average players are not benefitting from all of this and that is where the bulk of my frustration lies. The fun is no longer there, no matter how much I practice, just can not seem to get the handle on the putting part. Just as it seems to improve, along comes a more difficult course and the difficulty on the greens seem to grow exponentially.
To wrap this up, just know that there are many like us, many who are taking a beating along side of you and I. Many who have the frustration woes and want to throw in the towel, who feel just as you do. This is really a fun game, when we play good. I will never quit though, even when I am pissed to the max about the courses, the winds, just everything.............I stand back and look at the situation and realize that it is not the game, not the Rangers, it is my bad performance on courses that I have no business playing on. But, that is the way it is and I can hope for improvement. That is all that I have is hope. Maybe the Staff will come to re-examine the state of the lower ranks, do not know, but you are not alone by any means. I can only say that your frustration lies within yourself, not the Rangers. You are frustrated at your performance, not those of others. I say this because this is what I know about myself and all I can do is to quit moaning about all of this and just try to find something good within myself to continue on. The only other option is to walk away with my anger and frustration, knowing that I just did not stay because I like the game and especially the people that I have met and become friends with. Don't worry about the possibility of the third strike and the demotion. Maybe you should be down here with the rest of us who are struggling just as much as you are.
Hope you are not offended by this, just wanted to share a little of myself with you, as you do remind me of my own struggles at the moment.
Orion.............................
Nope...you're not alone. Seriously have thought about pulling the plug on this game countless times in the past 2 weeks. I know they send out Rangers on each course before each tournament..but how about the Rangers each week be the previous week's winner, the last person in the top 70 and the person finishing last in the tournament...maybe then you'd get a good read at how tough the course will be for the field. I honestly believe someone gets aroused by seeing some of the ballooned scores some of us put up week after week. Hey..whatever turns yer crank I guess. I'll see ya in CC-E next week...I'll be earning my 3rd strike in CC-D this week after 3 tournaments played. Here Here Orion...I feel the exact same way. Just as in real golf, that one really good shot ( I have had three holes in one since playing on the tour, something I have never done playing real golf) keeps me coming back. I will admit ,it is very difficult to continually hit the ball off the fairway and try to score. That is the challenge for below average golfers like us I guess...
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Post by Orion on Aug 3, 2015 15:09:59 GMT -5
After shooting consecutive (+9) 81's for the first 2 rounds, did break the curse and put up a little better (+4) 76. With the little varying wind speeds of 11-12 mph, the big thing I noticed that helped to lower the score was that the wind was coming from directions that actually aided a lot of the shots. Any small assistance from the winds is a blessing at this point.
Since the wind fix was put back into the game 2 weeks ago, not sure if there is a pattern to see developing here. Seems like we start off with medium level winds (10-15 mph), then go up to higher level (15-18 mph), maybe another medium level, then a lighter level (7-10 mph) or really light (4-6 mph). Am waiting to see when and if we get the severe winds (19-23 mph) and of course the hurricane winds of (24-29 mph). Have seen all of these speeds during practice rounds and actually have played in winds at 30 mph. Don't know if we will ever see them at (0-3 mph). Also am not sure how the speeds are determined or chosen for the weekly events, maybe a coin toss or dart board?
I am really happy to see a little more "activity" within this thread this week from the CC-E group members. Usually it is desirable to try to stay on topic within the thread, but with all that is happening with the game "difficulties" we all are speaking to, will not complain about a little deviance from that topic. Sharing thoughts, ideas, and advice about our struggles is what is most important. If the topic shifts too much, for too long, be aware that the Admins will advise us to create a new thread for further discussions. No harm, no fouls.
And to throw in my 2 cents on next week, I played the course last week with 20-25 mph winds and I will say that it was a b%&. The tight fairways, the bunkers, all will be difficult with increased wind speeds. Plus, make sure you look at the overhead views for each hole to see the out of bounds areas. These come into play more than normal with the stronger winds. Most greens are easier as the breaks are not as severe, but there are a few that can bite you.
Good to see you guys having these discussions and it is my hope that we all can finish this week as best we can. Make it happen!
Orion...........................
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