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Post by Mitchblue on Jul 17, 2015 12:59:58 GMT -5
I know no offense was intended. We're not all glamouring to become a pro. Also, couldn't the same be said that pro's would want to stay pro's so they have motive? Certainly top pros would want to stay pros, but within the season, PGA and Euro players only go down via "voluntary" demotion so no need to "cheat". However I know for a fact several players on the PGA/Euro use performance enhancing drugs to recover their thumbs round to round and strengthen those tendons. If they want to win or qualify for a Major? I don't and never did suspect anyone would but it's not fair so say CC would cheat but the top tours wouldn't. |
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Post by nocturnal on Jul 17, 2015 13:01:06 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what a modified axis is? Thanks I know some types of controllers have software that enables you to limit or disable the x-axis (horizontal) movement of the left or right sticks so when you swing it is impossible to not swing straight. |
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Post by bentfivewood on Jul 17, 2015 13:09:04 GMT -5
Vijay? I knew that was you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 13:09:55 GMT -5
As Tim has already said, what does it really matter. BUT, if these mods can make the movement on both axis dead straight, does it not allow for each axis to be slightly tweaked to a different sensitivity so that it wouldn't be picked up (hope that makes sense)?
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Post by blackaces13 on Jul 17, 2015 13:12:30 GMT -5
As Tim has already said, what does it really matter. BUT, if these mods can make the movement on both axis dead straight, does it not allow for each axis to be slightly tweaked to a different sensitivity so that it wouldn't be picked up (hope that makes sense)? Let's just not answer and let people play at their own peril.  The less info available on how to skirt the system the better. If people want to experiment, let them risk their accounts. |
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Jul 17, 2015 13:13:13 GMT -5
As Tim has already said, what does it really matter. BUT, if these mods can make the movement on both axis dead straight, does it not allow for each axis to be slightly tweaked to a different sensitivity so that it wouldn't be picked up (hope that makes sense)? I think HB can pick up anyone who has tinkered with the axis at all, regardless of the results it produces. Could be wrong. 100% agree with Tim. The obsession some people seem to have with "how people cheat" has always baffled me. Just play the game.... |
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Post by bentfivewood on Jul 17, 2015 13:17:06 GMT -5
Certainly top pros would want to stay pros, but within the season, PGA and Euro players only go down via "voluntary" demotion so no need to "cheat". However I know for a fact several players on the PGA/Euro use performance enhancing drugs to recover their thumbs round to round and strengthen those tendons. If they want to win or qualify for a Major? I don't and never did suspect anyone would but it's not fair so say CC would cheat but the top tours wouldn't. Of course there are people who have no designs on making it to the PGA or Euro. Those people would not be included amongst the group I speak of. I think you are thinking I'm trying to vilify the amateur tours but it is actually the opposite. I'm trying to help people to make sense of the disparity between the pro and amateur tours. I'd be happy to entertain your opinions on the matter. |
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Post by Mitchblue on Jul 17, 2015 13:27:24 GMT -5
If they want to win or qualify for a Major? I don't and never did suspect anyone would but it's not fair so say CC would cheat but the top tours wouldn't. Of course there are people who have no designs on making it to the PGA or Euro. Those people would not be included amongst the group I speak of. I think you are thinking I'm trying to vilify the amateur tours but it is actually the opposite. I'm trying to help people to make sense of the disparity between the pro and amateur tours. I'd be happy to entertain your opinions on the matter. If I'm not mistake there have been pro's who got caught prior..and maybe they're web guys (sorry web guys), and since there's 7 times as many players on CC, 15 (if that is the numbers, I'm just guessing) to 1 not so bad. Just trying to point out I don't believe CC has more propensity to cheat. |
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Post by Pubknight on Jul 17, 2015 13:32:06 GMT -5
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Post by bentfivewood on Jul 17, 2015 14:31:36 GMT -5
Of course there are people who have no designs on making it to the PGA or Euro. Those people would not be included amongst the group I speak of. I think you are thinking I'm trying to vilify the amateur tours but it is actually the opposite. I'm trying to help people to make sense of the disparity between the pro and amateur tours. I'd be happy to entertain your opinions on the matter. If I'm not mistake there have been pro's who got caught prior..and maybe they're web guys (sorry web guys), and since there's 7 times as many players on CC, 15 (if that is the numbers, I'm just guessing) to 1 not so bad. Just trying to point out I don't believe CC has more propensity to cheat. Yes, I've already stated as much by saying that the Pro/Euro players have been around the longest and anyone there who would have cheated would have already been banned or "rehabilitated", likely accounting for a lower number. You disagree with one part of my argument and that's ok. Believe me, we are not making plans to scrutinize any tour more or less on the basis of the straight shooter data. It is what it is. |
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Post by dlw1964 on Jul 17, 2015 14:45:41 GMT -5
I'm going to play a round or 2 with my titan one to give the tgc officials some data for them.
Hope it helps.
Will be twitching the rounds.
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Post by Mitchblue on Jul 17, 2015 15:15:58 GMT -5
If I'm not mistake there have been pro's who got caught prior..and maybe they're web guys (sorry web guys), and since there's 7 times as many players on CC, 15 (if that is the numbers, I'm just guessing) to 1 not so bad. Just trying to point out I don't believe CC has more propensity to cheat. Yes, I've already stated as much by saying that the Pro/Euro players have been around the longest and anyone there who would have cheated would have already been banned or "rehabilitated", likely accounting for a lower number. You disagree with one part of my argument and that's ok. Believe me, we are not making plans to scrutinize any tour more or less on the basis of the straight shooter data. It is what it is. It was never my intention to go this route outside 1 post. Being a Champs tour/CC since it all started, I just take it a bit personal. I believe we're as honorable, down here, as any other group. I'm sure I read too much into what you wanted to say so I apologies. |
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Post by bentfivewood on Jul 17, 2015 15:17:35 GMT -5
Yes, I've already stated as much by saying that the Pro/Euro players have been around the longest and anyone there who would have cheated would have already been banned or "rehabilitated", likely accounting for a lower number. You disagree with one part of my argument and that's ok. Believe me, we are not making plans to scrutinize any tour more or less on the basis of the straight shooter data. It is what it is. It was never my intention to go this route outside 1 post. Being a Champs tour/CC since it all started, I just take it a bit personal. I believe we're as honorable, down here, as any other group. I'm sure I read too much into what you wanted to say so I apologies. Couldn't agree more. |
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Post by dlw1964 on Jul 17, 2015 16:14:13 GMT -5
Played the first 2 rounds of July q school.
Played round 1 with a titan one, mixed in a few legit stock controller shots.
Rd 2 started off with my hori.
Then mixed in a few legit stock controller shots.
Then lastly use the titan one with the hori.
Hope that gives you the data you need.
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Post by Doyley on Jul 17, 2015 16:19:09 GMT -5
Thx DLW, I'll have a look with Tim later tonight.
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