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Post by mcbogga on Jul 16, 2015 20:37:46 GMT -5
We should also remember that the data HB decides to share with TGC Tours most probably is NOT everything they have. HB has no "horse in the race" when it comes to TGC Tours, they are just trying to ensure fair play with everyone. While the first part is true, they probably arent sharing everything they have with TGCT, I take issue with the second thing you said. HB definitely has a horse in the tgct race. Why? The reason they opted to create this API in the first place. Third party sites like tgct generate thousands upon thousands of rounds per week and keep people engaged long term. Not trying to brag (my involvement with tgct is limited these days due to work obligations), but the lifeblood of TGC's long term viability is third party tours, course designers' continued interest, and HB's continued profitability. Not necessarily in that order, but yeah. Carry on. Very true. I think that wen it comes to swing info they are probably handing out what they have. If you think HB is sitting on some magical super cheat-buster algorithm I think you are wrong. Just very little incentive for their small team to spend their effort on that. For a poker site it is aboslute a core business requirement, so incentives are a bit different. With the same logic - why spend time dumbing down the data when there is very little an API user can exploit by having the full access... I think some people are glorifying HB a bit. They have made the best golf game of all time, but they are still a small, limited resoures, game developer... The "patchiness" of the patches shows this. Secondly - It is interresting is that this means that there are no game-mechanic or resolution issues with making a more challenging swing response in a "pro-mode" should they choose, and this could be very granular to just introduce a bit more variance to the almost good swings. They also have all the telemetry from the best players to tweak it into realistic results compared to tour level golf. This would be a step in getting back to being a golf simulation oriented game - not just one that captures the feel of golf. Third - It would be awesome to have a "ball-striker" ranking. Could just be an arbritrary number, but its a fun stat for sure. Would also be interresting to see the averages on the PGA,Euro and Web for the three different systems. Is there a signifiant difference? But that data IS potentially explosive.... (Oops, see the exploit part above...) |
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Post by dlw1964 on Jul 16, 2015 20:54:50 GMT -5
My question is when dlw is using the titan one and the x axis is killed, will the line be dead straight when we look at it on the screen? If not and he is hitting it dead straight that's a huge problem in my opinion especially if the API says its clean. He is should play q-school like Tim asked to see what happens. Sometime tomorrow evening(friday) I will twitch a round using my titan one with a stock controller. |
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Jul 16, 2015 21:44:17 GMT -5
My question is when dlw is using the titan one and the x axis is killed, will the line be dead straight when we look at it on the screen? If not and he is hitting it dead straight that's a huge problem in my opinion especially if the API says its clean. He is should play q-school like Tim asked to see what happens. Sometime tomorrow evening(friday) I will twitch a round using my titan one with a stock controller. Cool. Do a round of q-school David and let us know when. Thx |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 21:55:57 GMT -5
I keep checking my inbox. Nothing there yet. It would be nice to know what they class as a straight shot. I'm sure a lot of people would like to see this as a stat on the scorecard somewhere.
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Post by tastegw on Jul 16, 2015 22:24:59 GMT -5
I keep checking my inbox. Nothing there yet. It would be nice to know what they class as a straight shot. I'm sure a lot of people would like to see this as a stat on the scorecard somewhere. why you checking your inbox? |
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Post by halkefralg79 on Jul 16, 2015 23:08:24 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm surprised it's only 20 so far. Not that I think it is half the players, but I would have suspected more. I'd be curious to know what it is that allows HB to track it. Seems that would be next to impossible, but apparently not.
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Post by blackaces13 on Jul 16, 2015 23:11:09 GMT -5
Why are we trying to find out if certain devices are undetectable? What good comes from that? It seems like we're doing the cheater's homework for them.
How about we don't publicize that info and anyone caught straight shooting is banned.
Use a device at your own peril.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 23:24:13 GMT -5
I keep checking my inbox. Nothing there yet. It would be nice to know what they class as a straight shot. I'm sure a lot of people would like to see this as a stat on the scorecard somewhere. why you checking your inbox? Even though I use a stock controller you never know what is classed as straight shooting. |
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Post by firstblitzer on Jul 16, 2015 23:34:59 GMT -5
why you checking your inbox? Even though I use a stock controller you never know what is classed as straight shooting. If you using a stock controller xbox or Sony, and you don't know what straight shooting or x-axis reduction is then you have nothing to worry about |
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Post by Leesome191 on Jul 16, 2015 23:37:24 GMT -5
Only 1 PGA member straight shooting just further kills the lame excuse people use that the best players cheat. 1 is still to much...glad he his shamed. |
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Post by coruler2 on Jul 17, 2015 0:00:22 GMT -5
1 time could be ignorance...so there's a little leeway. 2 times being banned is fair.
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Post by Leesome191 on Jul 17, 2015 0:21:47 GMT -5
1 time could be ignorance...so there's a little leeway. 2 times being banned is fair. Yeah,I get that. But I reckon 95% of members do know the rules. |
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Post by sfrench67 on Jul 17, 2015 2:11:41 GMT -5
What's the spread over all the tours/flights? Would be interesting to know. How do you guys know there is a PGA and Euro member suspected?
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Post by firstblitzer on Jul 17, 2015 2:33:45 GMT -5
What's the spread over all the tours/flights? Would be interesting to know. How do you guys know there is a PGA and Euro member suspected? Tim said so.............. |
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Post by guigsdaddy on Jul 17, 2015 8:34:05 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what a modified axis is? Thanks
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