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Post by williamwes626 on Dec 7, 2022 16:59:39 GMT -5
I had gotten a legendaary woods shaft power that had 24 points total but I didn't need it so I traded that and 2 more legendary for an iron shaft timing and I got the full 24 -
legendary Iron shaft timing
power (-3)
timing (+11)
swing path (+7)
Transition (+1)
Shaping (+8)
Lie Range (0)
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Total (+24)
Of course, I couldn't afford to fit every iron so I just did the pitching wedge. Sigh
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Post by coggin66 on Dec 7, 2022 18:15:02 GMT -5
Keep an eye on fittings guys. They might have been un-nerfed. Watching JustJordan's stream live and he just got a legendary Orange fitting and it was back to +8 per pair / +24 overall... It's official:  I just put that in Google Translate from BS to English and got: "Our Team continues to fcuk around with your game experience. We recently b@llsed up some changes to all the club fittings and after your outcry we changed them back. We enjoy testing your patience as we continue to beta test the game." |
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Post by bubbadave on Dec 7, 2022 20:25:20 GMT -5
Why slash them if a trial. Surely take a bit off and see from there. Seems a bit mental to just go full hog. Too many people are black and white visionaries incapable of seeing shades of gray. |
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Dec 7, 2022 21:33:21 GMT -5
Why slash them if a trial. Surely take a bit off and see from there. Seems a bit mental to just go full hog. Too many people are black and white visionaries incapable of seeing shades of gray. I agree, and it is hilarious with how stark HB/2K has tried some adjustments over the years.
Lets take away 5/8 of the stats on Legendary fittings.
People don't like this? We'll just put it back to where it was.
At no point did they ever use nuance to take away like 1/4 to 1/3 of stats across the fittings as an option? They just gave us a ridiculous fitting nerf that was only for new fittings, and then when they saw it wasn't being accepted, they went 100% back to how it used to be. Did they ever even consider mild reductions? Just a poorly run operation in terms of the details outside of gameplay.
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Post by GW_Hope on Dec 7, 2022 23:13:22 GMT -5
I suspect they will just raise the cap to say 130 or some number to where they want the difficulty to be fair to everyone.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Dec 7, 2022 23:31:53 GMT -5
I suspect they will just raise the cap to say 130 or some number to where they want the difficulty to be fair to everyone. I get the laffs this should get, but in reality I think/hope that they won't go this route.
The fact that I cannot 100% rule this out is disconcerting.
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Dec 8, 2022 4:00:24 GMT -5
Too many people are black and white visionaries incapable of seeing shades of gray. I agree, and it is hilarious with how stark HB/2K has tried some adjustments over the years.
Lets take away 5/8 of the stats on Legendary fittings.
People don't like this? We'll just put it back to where it was.
At no point did they ever use nuance to take away like 1/4 to 1/3 of stats across the fittings as an option? They just gave us a ridiculous fitting nerf that was only for new fittings, and then when they saw it wasn't being accepted, they went 100% back to how it used to be. Did they ever even consider mild reductions? Just a poorly run operation in terms of the details outside of gameplay.
Honestly this is their modus operandi for gameplay tweaks as well. They just swing violently from one extreme to the other. Playing for fasts is far too to easy in 21? Patch it and totally remove minor misses on Xbox, making master borderline unplayable in the process. People complain? Fix it about six months later and - tbf to them - make master a real joy to play but do it AFTER TGC Tours decide to go to pro swing without informing us all the change was coming when we're giving our opinions. Is that guy not community manager? Why isn't he on here engaging? He's probably paid in Virtual Currency in his defence. Then this led into the massively dumbed down long-game in 23. FiR and GiR stats are insane right now. Total lack of beta tests: unbelievable really. Would've immediately flagged up the fast issue in 21 and the ball issue in 23. Mutliplayer bugs in live society play? Bin it completely! Splash shots are too easy? Mega nerf! Etc. Etc. They just don't do nuance at all at HB. Maybe they aren't given the funding and 2k bought the studio to just push these out and make some money each year. Maybe the engine is SO dated now they can't make nuanced changes because it's just a blunt force back-and-forward good / bad shot binary outcome that feels dated even compared to Tiger Woods 14 swing mechanics. It all feels very desperate in terms of gameplay changes and all this other backend stuff. If the steam numbers are representative of players across all platforms right now I would be inclined to think the series either finishes here, is dropped by 2k, or we get the exact same game year after year from here on. |
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Post by FishTheWicket1 on Dec 8, 2022 6:57:13 GMT -5
I agree, and it is hilarious with how stark HB/2K has tried some adjustments over the years.
Lets take away 5/8 of the stats on Legendary fittings.
People don't like this? We'll just put it back to where it was.
At no point did they ever use nuance to take away like 1/4 to 1/3 of stats across the fittings as an option? They just gave us a ridiculous fitting nerf that was only for new fittings, and then when they saw it wasn't being accepted, they went 100% back to how it used to be. Did they ever even consider mild reductions? Just a poorly run operation in terms of the details outside of gameplay.
Honestly this is their modus operandi for gameplay tweaks as well. They just swing violently from one extreme to the other. Playing for fasts is far too to easy in 21? Patch it and totally remove minor misses on Xbox, making master borderline unplayable in the process. People complain? Fix it about six months later and - tbf to them - make master a real joy to play but do it AFTER TGC Tours decide to go to pro swing without informing us all the change was coming when we're giving our opinions. Is that guy not community manager? Why isn't he on here engaging? He's probably paid in Virtual Currency in his defence. Then this led into the massively dumbed down long-game in 23. FiR and GiR stats are insane right now. Total lack of beta tests: unbelievable really. Would've immediately flagged up the fast issue in 21 and the ball issue in 23. Mutliplayer bugs in live society play? Bin it completely! Splash shots are too easy? Mega nerf! Etc. Etc. They just don't do nuance at all at HB. Maybe they aren't given the funding and 2k bought the studio to just push these out and make some money each year. Maybe the engine is SO dated now they can't make nuanced changes because it's just a blunt force back-and-forward good / bad shot binary outcome that feels dated even compared to Tiger Woods 14 swing mechanics. It all feels very desperate in terms of gameplay changes and all this other backend stuff. If the steam numbers are representative of players across all platforms right now I would be inclined to think the series either finishes here, is dropped by 2k, or we get the exact same game year after year from here on. I will add to the stupidity of HB Let's release our new game with no competetive multiplayer because hey sports games are not at all competitive and no one really enjoys live head to head play anyways We will drop it in 6 months time when our competitors new game is due out because drip feeding content will keep a player base 😂 If this is the end of the series they only have themselves to blame |
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Dec 8, 2022 7:08:37 GMT -5
Honestly this is their modus operandi for gameplay tweaks as well. They just swing violently from one extreme to the other. Playing for fasts is far too to easy in 21? Patch it and totally remove minor misses on Xbox, making master borderline unplayable in the process. People complain? Fix it about six months later and - tbf to them - make master a real joy to play but do it AFTER TGC Tours decide to go to pro swing without informing us all the change was coming when we're giving our opinions. Is that guy not community manager? Why isn't he on here engaging? He's probably paid in Virtual Currency in his defence. Then this led into the massively dumbed down long-game in 23. FiR and GiR stats are insane right now. Total lack of beta tests: unbelievable really. Would've immediately flagged up the fast issue in 21 and the ball issue in 23. Mutliplayer bugs in live society play? Bin it completely! Splash shots are too easy? Mega nerf! Etc. Etc. They just don't do nuance at all at HB. Maybe they aren't given the funding and 2k bought the studio to just push these out and make some money each year. Maybe the engine is SO dated now they can't make nuanced changes because it's just a blunt force back-and-forward good / bad shot binary outcome that feels dated even compared to Tiger Woods 14 swing mechanics. It all feels very desperate in terms of gameplay changes and all this other backend stuff. If the steam numbers are representative of players across all platforms right now I would be inclined to think the series either finishes here, is dropped by 2k, or we get the exact same game year after year from here on. I will add to the stupidity of HB Let's release our new game with no competetive multiplayer because hey sports games are not at all competitive and no one really enjoys live head to head play anyways We will drop it in 6 months time when our competitors new game is due out because drip feeding content will keep a player base 😂 If this is the end of the series they only have themselves to blame 100% . It's 2022 and this is a full-price release that *still* relies on an external site - funded by donations no less - to carry the multiplayer side of their game published by an absolute behemoth of a publishing house. And 2k don't even fund them. Beggars belief really. I know I seem like a huge moan but I just think it's such a shame that for whatever reason - whether it's 2K not valuing the game enough to properly invest in it (it's still on a freeware version of unity! Really?!), or dictating they go down a different route, or HB simply not having the in-house talent/resources/manpower to make a modern game - to see a really promising series that I thought would really kick on to something special, be in such a poor state. Both on and off the course. |
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Post by sanchez on Dec 8, 2022 13:20:00 GMT -5
The thing that boggles my mind is if they are targetting casual players the thing that they want is online game against their mates at the settings they all want to play. Be it pro master whatever.. This very poor & getting poorer excuse for a top priced game is not giving them anything near that.EA will clean up that market when they release.. They might have just 20 or so courses but the casual player who plays with his mates wont care they just want a few rounds with mates where they can pick how they play want then go do something else. They wont really care what course it is.
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Post by CoinHen77 on Dec 9, 2022 9:51:29 GMT -5
Glad they reverted the changes. I guess I can understand the intent of the change, since the current fittings allow you to basically take an archetype and even out all the stats so they sit above 80... what I can't understand is why make such a MASSIVE change and not mention it in your patch notes.
:Places Tin Foil Hat On Head:
I'm still wondering if it was intentional or not... might have been something they were toying around with in a test environment and it mistakenly got pushed to the live game in the update? The comment about "changing based on the results" put out to cover their asses and not make them look like amateurs that pushed a test to the live game. When you're the only game in the golf space, you can make mistakes and own up to them, but when you've got a 10,000 pound gorilla breathing down your neck, mistakes like this push your customers to the new shiny product on the way.
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Post by moneyman273 on Dec 9, 2022 10:40:18 GMT -5
It's official: I just put that in Google Translate from BS to English and got: "Our Team continues to fcuk around with your game experience. We recently b@llsed up some changes to all the club fittings and after your outcry we changed them back. We enjoy testing your patience as we continue to beta test the game." This is prime LOL coggin66 |
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Post by moneyman273 on Dec 9, 2022 10:41:34 GMT -5
Glad they reverted the changes. I guess I can understand the intent of the change, since the current fittings allow you to basically take an archetype and even out all the stats so they sit above 80... what I can't understand is why make such a MASSIVE change and not mention it in your patch notes. :Places Tin Foil Hat On Head: I'm still wondering if it was intentional or not... might have been something they were toying around with in a test environment and it mistakenly got pushed to the live game in the update? The comment about "changing based on the results" put out to cover their asses and not make them look like amateurs that pushed a test to the live game. When you're the only game in the golf space, you can make mistakes and own up to them, but when you've got a 10,000 pound gorilla breathing down your neck, mistakes like this push your customers to the new shiny product on the way. I'm still wondering if they will fix live ghost in society so we can actually PLAY society rounds with our chums. |
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Post by CoinHen77 on Dec 9, 2022 11:37:10 GMT -5
Glad they reverted the changes. I guess I can understand the intent of the change, since the current fittings allow you to basically take an archetype and even out all the stats so they sit above 80... what I can't understand is why make such a MASSIVE change and not mention it in your patch notes. :Places Tin Foil Hat On Head: I'm still wondering if it was intentional or not... might have been something they were toying around with in a test environment and it mistakenly got pushed to the live game in the update? The comment about "changing based on the results" put out to cover their asses and not make them look like amateurs that pushed a test to the live game. When you're the only game in the golf space, you can make mistakes and own up to them, but when you've got a 10,000 pound gorilla breathing down your neck, mistakes like this push your customers to the new shiny product on the way. I'm still wondering if they will fix live ghost in society so we can actually PLAY society rounds with our chums. Introducing "non-functioning live ghost" from the same inept coders that brought you "can't drop properly" and "always in 5th place on live society leaderboards"! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2022 11:45:07 GMT -5
I'm still wondering if they will fix live ghost in society so we can actually PLAY society rounds with our chums. Introducing "non-functioning live ghost" from the same inept coders that brought you "can't drop properly" and "always in 5th place on live society leaderboards"! The non live turn based ghosts play at fast forward speed half the time. So playing with fellow society members ghosts are pretty much a waste of time in this game |
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