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Post by Doyley on Nov 11, 2022 10:45:29 GMT -5
Scott - are promo / demo marks staying the same as last season? (3 to promote, 5 to demote) Top & bottom 7.5 and 15% to receive 1 and 2?
How will they work in the new Platinum?
Currently it's Promotion marks: 2 - top 7.5%
1 - top 15%
Demotion Marks 2 - bottom 10% 1 - bottom 20%
It'll work the same on Platinum with the only change being there is no cutline (outside of Majors) to clear a demotion mark. So if you get a demo mark you need to finish top 15% to clear it. Will monitor how this goes w/ how many get promoted into and out of platinum. Feel like it'll be pretty close to balanced and we can use promo events to top it up if light and voluntary demotions if too many. Don't want it to dip below 50 and go above 70 - that's the window we'll try to keep Platinum fields in.
Basically you are now playing to avoid demo marks if you aren't contending for a win on Plat. They will be tough to clear. If you bounce back to Elite you should be competitive to get back into Platinum to try again.
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9ironanon
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 168
TGCT Name: Jackson Quagmire
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by 9ironanon on Nov 11, 2022 14:45:25 GMT -5
I hope +20 is going to be fine. I ended up +21 after a +5 final round.
You should be, by my rough math the cut seems to be +22 if the 45/140/140/130x12 holds up for setting the flights and +29 if Doyley decides giving out 2000 tour cards at a 45 and 140 each the rest of the way down is a good idea. |
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Post by Bogey Bonocore on Nov 11, 2022 15:01:47 GMT -5
I hope +20 is going to be fine. I ended up +21 after a +5 final round.
You should be, by my rough math the cut seems to be +22 if the 45/140/140/130x12 holds up for setting the flights and +29 if Doyley decides giving out 2000 tour cards at a 45 and 140 each the rest of the way down is a good idea. It's gone back and forth, but Doyley said 120 per CC flight on Discord this morning. He said: "Don't think there will be more than 1765 given out (120 per flight in cc). 1830ish that have all 4 rounds in. Still some that haven't teed off (like me!) so that number will rise but don't think we'll get much higher than 2,000" So, essentially, based off his very loose projections, 1765 will get one, with 250-300 missing the card line. |
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Post by jeseterr on Nov 11, 2022 15:25:35 GMT -5
Cut line for TOUR card is +16 now. I’m + 4 after two rounds and I’m afraid to continue.  |
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9ironanon
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 168
TGCT Name: Jackson Quagmire
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by 9ironanon on Nov 11, 2022 15:30:27 GMT -5
You should be, by my rough math the cut seems to be +22 if the 45/140/140/130x12 holds up for setting the flights and +29 if Doyley decides giving out 2000 tour cards at a 45 and 140 each the rest of the way down is a good idea. It's gone back and forth, but Doyley said 120 per CC flight on Discord this morning. He said: "Don't think there will be more than 1765 given out (120 per flight in cc). 1830ish that have all 4 rounds in. Still some that haven't teed off (like me!) so that number will rise but don't think we'll get much higher than 2,000" So, essentially, based off his very loose projections, 1765 will get one, with 250-300 missing the card line. Well in that case its gonna be +16 as it stands right now, I'm +1 for the week, so I'm in G or something. |
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Post by Bogey Bonocore on Nov 11, 2022 15:32:49 GMT -5
Cut line for TOUR card is +16 now. I’m + 4 after two rounds and I’m afraid to continue. You will be fine! +16 now isn't taking into account the people that won't finish all four rounds. It also counts people ahead in the leaderboard who have only played one round so far. If I had to 'guess' based on how many finish, I would GUESS +20 or +21 would be the cut line. Of course, I have no clue. Just taking a shot in the dark. We will see how it plays out, but at +4 after two rounds, you will easily make a CC flight if you keep it going. |
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Post by Blade on Nov 11, 2022 15:42:15 GMT -5
So, essentially, based off his very loose projections, 1765 will get one, with 250-300 missing the card line. I guess it is official - leader board now says there will be 1764 cards.
As of the time I write this; 1,870 have completed all 4 rounds and if the event ended now, +44 or +45 (depends if they round up or down) would likely be the last to get in.
There are 136 who completed 3 rounds and surely most of them will complete the last round. 16 of these are above the +44 trajectory, so the majority of the 136 will be bumping out the +44 folks. If the 3 round completion golfers finish with their first 3 round average (which is not perfect, but this is just for fun), that will put the cut line around +25 or +26.
To continue the exercise with the golfers who have completed 2 rounds (167) is much more speculative since R3 is the hardest round for most, but the cut line only drops to +23 or +24.
And of course some of the 1 rounders might complete and there will people who do it all on the last day.
Based on this exercise, my guess is the cut line will be in the low to mid +20s.
The one hard number in all of this, if you are +46 or higher, you are almost certainly not getting a card this week.
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Post by Blade on Nov 11, 2022 15:44:24 GMT -5
Cut line for TOUR card is +16 now. I’m + 4 after two rounds and I’m afraid to continue. You will be fine! +16 now isn't taking into account the people that won't finish all four rounds. It also counts people ahead in the leaderboard who have only played one round so far. If I had to 'guess' based on how many finish, I would GUESS +20 or +21 would be the cut line. Of course, I have no clue. Just taking a shot in the dark. We will see how it plays out, but at +4 after two rounds, you will easily make a CC flight if you keep it going. Ha ha, I just did a bunch of math in public (taking into account all the folks on the leader board who have not done all four rounds) coming to about the same conclusion (low to mid +20s is my guess). |
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Post by Bogey Bonocore on Nov 11, 2022 15:53:04 GMT -5
You will be fine! +16 now isn't taking into account the people that won't finish all four rounds. It also counts people ahead in the leaderboard who have only played one round so far. If I had to 'guess' based on how many finish, I would GUESS +20 or +21 would be the cut line. Of course, I have no clue. Just taking a shot in the dark. We will see how it plays out, but at +4 after two rounds, you will easily make a CC flight if you keep it going. Ha ha, I just did a bunch of math in public (taking into account all the folks on the leader board who have not done all four rounds) coming to about the same conclusion (low to mid +20s is my guess). Yeah, it's 'starting' to look that way, but of course, anything can change, one way or another. But I think the +20 - +23 is the best guess. I know you are right there. Rooting for you bud! I look forward to meeting you in a CC flight soon! |
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Post by Blade on Nov 11, 2022 15:55:37 GMT -5
Yeah, it's 'starting' to look that way, but of course, anything can change, one way or another. But I think the +20 - +23 is the best guess. I know you are right there. Rooting for you bud! I look forward to meeting you in a CC flight soon! Yea, I was initially thinking +21 would sneak me up from CC-K (where I was last year), but now I am just hoping it sneaks me in! R3 really killed me, but there is always next week if I don't make it. |
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Nov 11, 2022 15:55:40 GMT -5
So, essentially, based off his very loose projections, 1765 will get one, with 250-300 missing the card line. I guess it is official - leader board now says there will be 1764 cards.
As of the time I write this; 1,870 have completed all 4 rounds and if the event ended now, +44 or +45 (depends if they round up or down) would likely be the last to get in.
There are 136 who completed 3 rounds and surely most of them will complete the last round. 16 of these are above the +44 trajectory, so the majority of the 136 will be bumping out the +44 folks. If the 3 round completion golfers finish with their first 3 round average (which is not perfect, but this is just for fun), that will put the cut line around +25 or +26.
To continue the exercise with the golfers who have completed 2 rounds (167) is much more speculative since R3 is the hardest round for most, but the cut line only drops to +23 or +24.
And of course some of the 1 rounders might complete and there will people who do it all on the last day.
Based on this exercise, my guess is the cut line will be in the low to mid +20s.
The one hard number in all of this, if you are +46 or higher, you are almost certainly not getting a card this week.
I am only speculating, but using the schedule and what Doyley has pointed out during the lead up to this week, I feel the number of player without a card after this week will be a healthy number for a reason:
This week is week 1 of the season (current): Mass Q-Event. Give out cards at the end.
Next week, in week 2: Normal week with weekly qualifying. Some players who missed out on cards may gain one.
Week 3: First Promotion Event. Players from lower tours will move up, opening up gaps on the lower half of the tours. Weekly qualifying hands out some cards, and mostly will be to backfill the lower tours.
Week 4: This was the week noted by Doyley that a large number of cards will be given out out of weekly qualifying. This would, IMO, be because the CC tours will expand in ideal tour size.
Edit: I feel that this is being done this way to keep the lowest two tours, and especially CC-L competitive. Letting too many in early could give a large imbalance top to bottom on CC-L specifically. This is also why Platinum was cut to 45 players at the top end of the tours... to make it more competitive top to bottom.
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Post by Bogey Bonocore on Nov 11, 2022 16:05:34 GMT -5
Yeah, it's 'starting' to look that way, but of course, anything can change, one way or another. But I think the +20 - +23 is the best guess. I know you are right there. Rooting for you bud! I look forward to meeting you in a CC flight soon! Yea, I was initially thinking +21 would sneak me up from CC-K (where I was last year), but now I am just hoping it sneaks me in! R3 really killed me, but there is always next week if I don't make it. Yeah, luckily I was finally able to figure out how to turn HDR off on my TV. I couldn't see ANYTHING in the practice round in the rain setting. It was pitch black. If I hadn't figured out the HDR, I would have easily shot +15 over in round three. Haha |
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Post by Doyley on Nov 11, 2022 16:48:06 GMT -5
I am only speculating, but using the schedule and what Doyley has pointed out during the lead up to this week, I feel the number of player without a card after this week will be a healthy number for a reason: This week is week 1 of the season (current): Mass Q-Event. Give out cards at the end. Next week, in week 2: Normal week with weekly qualifying. Some players who missed out on cards may gain one. Week 3: First Promotion Event. Players from lower tours will move up, opening up gaps on the lower half of the tours. Weekly qualifying hands out some cards, and mostly will be to backfill the lower tours.
Week 4: This was the week noted by Doyley that a large number of cards will be given out out of weekly qualifying. This would, IMO, be because the CC tours will expand in ideal tour size. Edit: I feel that this is being done this way to keep the lowest two tours, and especially CC-L competitive. Letting too many in early could give a large imbalance top to bottom on CC-L specifically. This is also why Platinum was cut to 45 players at the top end of the tours... to make it more competitive top to bottom.
This is it in a nutshell. We'll have quite a few new signups as our societies balloon in sizes (and show up on front pages in-game) in the coming weeks. We'll slowly increase field sizes in CC and get the best scores from qualifiers on the tours asap. Week 2 will provide on opportunity for people that got Fair Played another chance to get on the tours as well as those that couldn't finish all 4 rounds this week.
The first promo event is going to cause quite a bit of movement as we'll top up the 3 pro tours. That trickles down all through the Challenge Circuit. Week 4 will have the largest amount of qualifying cards available outside of this initial qualifying event - so if you miss out on a tour card be sure to keep playing/trying until then as I expect quite a few spots open on the lower CC flights that week. You can see how the tours pan out visually in the image below (cool pic, thx Blade for it). I just colour coded the 3 pro tours and then those that would likely miss out on a tour card (though it seems that number will stretch down further than I coloured a couple days ago). You'll have to just imagine the CC flights in the middle. The flatter the line, the more competitive the tours will be.
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Post by Blade on Nov 11, 2022 21:06:58 GMT -5
I'm headed to CC and I can't wait for week 1 - Elstead Heath is an absolute banger of a track, roll on Sunday When I search, I see two Elstead Heath GC. One says easy, one says medium - otherwise look the same. Any help figuring out which to practice on is much appreciated. |
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Post by gordyberry on Nov 11, 2022 22:45:57 GMT -5
I'm headed to CC and I can't wait for week 1 - Elstead Heath is an absolute banger of a track, roll on Sunday When I search, I see two Elstead Heath GC. One says easy, one says medium - otherwise look the same. Any help figuring out which to practice on is much appreciated. I assume things haven't changed, so you can go into the schedule in-game in the society. Go to Course Details or something like that, and then you can favorite. Alternatively, if the thumbnails are different, you can see the picture for the right one on there. |
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